The Battle Between Science and Blind Faith

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The battle between science and blind faith--a never ending yet a very interesting one.
Science is following things that have evidence. On the contrary, faith is following things immensely without any conditions, circumstances, boundaries, or restrictions. Just like love. Faith is unpredictable and sometimes tests you in uncanny situations, yet it is one of the strongest emotions.

This week's episodes showed us an example of a situation where science and blind faith were at constant battle; feeding milk to Ganeshji. Scientifically, this makes no sense as a statue cannot possibly perform any actions; just how Preeti had initially mentioned. However, isn't that where religion and faith come to play?

What is religion if not faith? We don't know whether God exists because we have never seen Him--that's the scientific reasoning. But knowing that God does exist and is omnipresent is faith. Faith that any sin would lead to a punishment by God. Faith that do good things and good things will come to you. Faith that you never want to displease God.

Such was the case with many in 1993. However it wasn't their fear, but their faith. Yes, they may have been slightly conditional for feeding milk in return for fulfilled demands. But it was their determined faith on God that led them in front of every Ganeshji statue. Because some beliefs are beyond scientific explanation.

We do follow scientific reasoning in many cases as they are logical and provide proof. Yet whenever we are in some situation or witness utmost happiness 'Oh my God' are the words that come out of our mouth.

So you can be scientific and have faith on God at the same time.

I feel following any superstition or practice without scientific reasoning is acceptable as long as it doesn't harm or criticize anyone. Because faith on God is by choice. It's an individual's way of living his/her life. And these practices must not be implemented on others unless they believe in it too.


I would love to know your views on this topic. Bring on the debate! 😆

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Nice topic Muskaan.being a rational person and science student,I have restrained myself from touching this controversial topic but glad you raised it.
I can't believe CVs, who had raised women and period issues and its practicality, they actually showed drinking milk as miracle.That day various scientists had done experiments and proved it was another scientific phenomenon "the surface tension of the milk was pulling the liquid up and out of the spoon, before gravity caused it to run down the front of the statue."
Even though it was later proved that capillary action was the reason behind it, VO stated anyone didn't know the actual reason? I am dissapointed!
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Posted: 6 years ago
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I myself has done that way back in 1995 & saw the milk disappear. That time indeed it was big .Initially milk was vanishing but after few hours i think it stopped.Yes i have heard of the scientific reason of the phenomenon.But to tell u frankly i do believe in God & its presence..Not that i believe in this types of miracles but in personal front i have experienced some things which truly can be said to be Godly.In true sense not all can be explained by science & faith in God really helps one to keep that right frame of mind .
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ross11

Nice topic Muskaan.being a rational person and science student,I have restrained myself from touching this controversial topic but glad you raised it.

I can't believe CVs, who had raised women and period issues and its practicality, they actually showed drinking milk as miracle.That day various scientists had done experiments and proved it was another scientific phenomenon "the surface tension of the milk was pulling the liquid up and out of the spoon, before gravity caused it to run down the front of the statue."
Even though it was later proved that capillary action was the reason behind it, VO stated anyone didn't know the actual reason? I am dissapointed!


I have also studied science and believe that everything has a scientific reason. We, humans have been successful in establishing science behind many natural phenomenon. But there are still some which we have not been able to find a satisfactory reason or any reason at all. Those are the things that we call as miracle.
Though science provided an explanation for this miracle, I didn't find it convincing. If the reasoning they provided was right why would it happen only on one particular day??
But I agree, if CVs had picked up this topic, they should have shown all the debates that followed including the scientific explanation.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Nice topic and great post. This indeed is going to be a good debate.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Muskaan...This is a great topic to debate on and has lot of potential.⭐️

The never ending feud between Science and Blind Faith(can be read as religion if need be) is just similar to having two options in a one course meal solely left to discretion of the people to decide which path satisfies their cravings,the urge to seek ways to satisfy the curiosity of the mind. I think both Science and Faith answers the questions in its own way.Science is concerned with understanding the material world, religion/faith with the understanding of the spiritual world.

CVs tried to take the realistic path of showing the happenings of that era, they did succeed in bringing life to it onscreen but only thing may be they missed was atleast one character trying to find a scientific explanation to the phenomenon.I still want to give it to creative liberty that they chose to ignore it while providing lighthearted entertaining scenes.

Being a student of science, I agree with @Ross11 that I am interested to see beyond blind faith but as @priya_nka_yudkb said I cant just get satisfied with science always,Science teaches us to question everything and find logical explanation, but then there are many things for which Science is yet to find answer.

Personally I have faith in God and his power but within the perimeter of knowable truth. I also believe that the more I learn about science, the better I understand God and I am yet to come across something that says science contradicts this.

Ending with a quote I had come across: "Faith and Science are two sides of the same coin,separated by an expanse so small but wide enough that one can't see each other.They just don't know they are connected."
Edited by mystique123 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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I know people wont agree. But sanatan dharam popularly called as hinduism has environment and scientific backing.
Our vedas stated earth is round when abrahamics believed earth is flat, our sushruta is father of surgery. He performed complex surgeries in an era where western part of the world was thinking diseases to be due to bad spirits.
ganesh chaturthi the clay idols made from clay taken from village ponds during rainy season would facilitate ponds to fill up and immersing the idol back would restore soil. The leaves used to worship ganesha all have medicinal values(not the crotons, actual leaves mentioned in scriptures) .

During shravan month women put turmeric paste on their feet as it falls in monsoon season too and unlike men women work in water and do household work and turmeric has antibacterial properties(this has scientific backing from your favourite western world)

Diwali , lighting up a lot ofoil lamps throughout kartik month used to provide warmth to people before room heaters were invented. Crackers (not the china ones) kill mosquitoes which are rampant during diwali month.

During makar sankranti Rangolis put with rice flour feed insects and ants and prevent them from entering houses as they get well fed with the amount of rice flour thar is used in rangoli
I am proud to be a sanatani and i am.fortuante to have sciene teacher who taught me all these.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ross11

Nice topic Muskaan.being a rational person and science student,I have restrained myself from touching this controversial topic but glad you raised it.

I can't believe CVs, who had raised women and period issues and its practicality, they actually showed drinking milk as miracle.That day various scientists had done experiments and proved it was another scientific phenomenon "the surface tension of the milk was pulling the liquid up and out of the spoon, before gravity caused it to run down the front of the statue."
Even though it was later proved that capillary action was the reason behind it, VO stated anyone didn't know the actual reason? I am dissapointed!


Yes scientists did try to find the reason but they could not repeat it the next week
I am not saying it was a miracle probably the position of earth on that day was such that the capillary action did occur but the actual reason what happened that day and why it couldn't happen the very next week could never be accurately inferred. So they were not wrong in saying they didn't know the actual reason

P.S. I remember we were serving milk through Lota and not a spoon yet the milk went away so actually none of the reasons completely reasoned it
Edited by FlauntPessimism - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Science always plays catch up to faith and religion. What is indicated in the scriptures and some people find unbelievable has often later been proven by science to be true. Science explains religious phenomena. The phenomena exists, only science has not cotton on yet. Science tries to explain the "why" of something. It cannot answer the "who" . For example, science can explain how something is created, but it cannot say who the Creator is.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ross11

Nice topic Muskaan.being a rational person and science student,I have restrained myself from touching this controversial topic but glad you raised it.

I can't believe CVs, who had raised women and period issues and its practicality, they actually showed drinking milk as miracle.That day various scientists had done experiments and proved it was another scientific phenomenon "the surface tension of the milk was pulling the liquid up and out of the spoon, before gravity caused it to run down the front of the statue."
Even though it was later proved that capillary action was the reason behind it, VO stated anyone didn't know the actual reason? I am dissapointed!


I feel people can be practical and have blind faith at the same time...a belief in God is always an individual's choice and has no scientific explanation for it. At that point of time, people were so eager to feed milk because of their faith in God that no one looked into the logic behind it.


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