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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: ruchi3179

I myself has done that way back in 1995 & saw the milk disappear. That time indeed it was big .Initially milk was vanishing but after few hours i think it stopped.Yes i have heard of the scientific reason of the phenomenon.But to tell u frankly i do believe in God & its presence..Not that i believe in this types of miracles but in personal front i have experienced some things which truly can be said to be Godly.In true sense not all can be explained by science & faith in God really helps one to keep that right frame of mind .


Indeed. Some things are just beyond scientific explanation. Faith on God is one such example. It's all about your perception of life and to which principles you want to adhere to.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: priya_nka_yudkb


I have also studied science and believe that everything has a scientific reason. We, humans have been successful in establishing science behind many natural phenomenon. But there are still some which we have not been able to find a satisfactory reason or any reason at all. Those are the things that we call as miracle.
Though science provided an explanation for this miracle, I didn't find it convincing. If the reasoning they provided was right why would it happen only on one particular day??
But I agree, if CVs had picked up this topic, they should have shown all the debates that followed including the scientific explanation.


True. Maybe this was CVs' style of presenting different perspectives of viewing this miracle. Taiji and Chachiji type people who have immense faith in all forms of God. Preeti type people who soon change their beliefs according to experiences and people like Naina who believe in God but not in miracles like these.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: priya_nka_yudkb

Nice topic and great post. This indeed is going to be a good debate.


Thanks to you and your great initiative, Priyanka!
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: mystique123

Muskaan...This is a great topic to debate on and has lot of potential.⭐️


The never ending feud between Science and Blind Faith(can be read as religion if need be) is just similar to having two options in a one course meal solely left to discretion of the people to decide which path satisfies their cravings,the urge to seek ways to satisfy the curiosity of the mind. I think both Science and Faith answers the questions in its own way.Science is concerned with understanding the material world, religion/faith with the understanding of the spiritual world.

I just loved the way you explained both elements so effortlessly! 👏

CVs tried to take the realistic path of showing the happenings of that era, they did succeed in bringing life to it onscreen but only thing may be they missed was atleast one character trying to find a scientific explanation to the phenomenon.I still want to give it to creative liberty that they chose to ignore it while providing lighthearted entertaining scenes.

They should have elaborated on this matter by presenting a range of perspectives. However, I think rather than an explanation they did present three contrasting categories through three people from the show; Taiji, Preeti and Naina. On the one hand, Taiji is shown to be an ardent follower of God and believes each and every superstition and considers everything linked to God a miracle. On the other hand Preeti is shown to be a practical girl who however considers experiences for beliefs. And then we have Naina who has faith in God but doesn't believe in such miracles.

Being a student of science, I agree with @Ross11 that I am interested to see beyond blind faith but as @priya_nka_yudkb said I cant just get satisfied with science always,Science teaches us to question everything and find logical explanation, but then there are many things for which Science is yet to find answer.

Personally I have faith in God and his power but within the perimeter of knowable truth. I also believe that the more I learn about science, the better I understand God and I am yet to come across something that says science contradicts this.

I completely agree with you, Isha. Though i'm not a fan of basic science, this logic fits with me too.

Ending with a quote I had come across: "Faith and Science are two sides of the same coin,separated by an expanse so small but wide enough that one can't see each other.They just don't know they are connected."

What a lovely and meaningful quote! Written by whom?



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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Samaina12

I know people wont agree. But sanatan dharam popularly called as hinduism has environment and scientific backing.

Our vedas stated earth is round when abrahamics believed earth is flat, our sushruta is father of surgery. He performed complex surgeries in an era where western part of the world was thinking diseases to be due to bad spirits.
ganesh chaturthi the clay idols made from clay taken from village ponds during rainy season would facilitate ponds to fill up and immersing the idol back would restore soil. The leaves used to worship ganesha all have medicinal values(not the crotons, actual leaves mentioned in scriptures) .

During shravan month women put turmeric paste on their feet as it falls in monsoon season too and unlike men women work in water and do household work and turmeric has antibacterial properties(this has scientific backing from your favourite western world)

Diwali , lighting up a lot ofoil lamps throughout kartik month used to provide warmth to people before room heaters were invented. Crackers (not the china ones) kill mosquitoes which are rampant during diwali month.

During makar sankranti Rangolis put with rice flour feed insects and ants and prevent them from entering houses as they get well fed with the amount of rice flour thar is used in rangoli
I am proud to be a sanatani and i am.fortuante to have sciene teacher who taught me all these.


A very good point...something I hadn't know until right now. Thank you so much for sharing. 😊
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism


Yes scientists did try to find the reason but they could not repeat it the next week
I am not saying it was a miracle probably the position of earth on that day was such that the capillary action did occur but the actual reason what happened that day and why it couldn't happen the very next week could never be accurately inferred. So they were not wrong in saying they didn't know the actual reason

P.S. I remember we were serving milk through Lota and not a spoon yet the milk went away so actually none of the reasons completely reasoned it


Indeed a miracle then! 😃
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Posted: 6 years ago
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@Muskaan...Wait.Did you say CVs showed Naina one who don't believe in such miracles? I wish it was the case. Didn't she fed milk and told Sameer to do the same?
Actually it was Kamya not Naina and Anand who said it was andhwishwasa( blind faith) as it was unscientific. ( and JBR too who later started buttering his boss and changed side)
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sakhile

Science always plays catch up to faith and religion. What is indicated in the scriptures and some people find unbelievable has often later been proven by science to be true. Science explains religious phenomena. The phenomena exists, only science has not cotton on yet. Science tries to explain the "why" of something. It cannot answer the "who" . For example, science can explain how something is created, but it cannot say who the Creator is.


a very valid point indeed! This is where science and religion clash.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Hey Muskaan

@bold: I disagree with you on the point about Naina. She did the same as others along with Sameer. Though later we heard her telling Preeti about superstition in another context, she never did for once reason about the phenomena of Ganeshji drinking milk and as I said I accept it as creative liberty of the makers not to tread through that path.

Btw the quote is by Mary E. Pearson 😃
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Naina is often shown saying "Bagwaanji, khuch to chamatkaar karo". So she does believe in miracles. Only when it is convenient for her does she say that she is not superstitious.

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