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Posted: 7 years ago
#11
Agree that whatever Swati has done is not forgiving. But I don't agree that Naina has never done anything wrong with Swati. During Romeo Juliet play, she wanted to be Juliet and because of Sameer she first left the play and later when Swati got the role and Naina's MU about Sameer was cleared she again tried to get the role in place of Swati. Isnt that in a way a loss for Swati?
During mt Abu trip permission seeking... She did say that she didn't want to go because Swati was upset with her but at the same time she was making all efforts back home to get the permission..

At that point Swati's anger was fully justified. I remember when my best friends love marriage was announced, I was so upset as I had no clue of her being in a relationship. Yes we were living in different cities and didn't connect so often which might have made it difficult for her to share it with me but I still feel betrayed as I was the last one (according to me) to know about it. So at that point Swati being mad at Naina was completely justified. I was actually surprised how fast Swati forgot everything and moved on to call Sameer jijaji..

I think whatever we see now might be a outburst of a volcano building for years.. but I also feel somewhere that all characters have been twisted way too much to suit the storyline... Not every girl was so ambitious in 90s.. most of them only dreamed of getting married to a good boy because that's how they were brought up. There were very few like Naina who had other dreams and that's what sets Naina apart. But here we see that Swati all of a sudden becomes an ambitious girl which is so out of character I feel...


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Posted: 7 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: Mayashika

An amazing post, Ashu Di!


Such a tragic end to a long and beautiful friendship. I can understand Naina's pain here very much. Starting of the track I supported Swati too because I felt Naina needs to look into this matter but later when the track progressed, Swati had the initial guilt but then never looked back. Rightly said, it showed the grudge she had grown in her mind against Naina as she's considered herself more beautiful and obviously she thought the dashing Sam would have fallen for her but she was proved wrong. There was an insecurity regarding Naina within her from school days and neither did Swati talk about it nor Naina ever sensed it from her body language. But I really did expect Swati to have the guilt at least throughout otherwise it means she never valued the friendship with Naina and she had no conscience when it comes to her friend.
I loved and completely agree with what you have written about Sam-Swati redemption and yes, I too want Naina to open up about all of this to Sameer.

But should we expect a redemption and then being friends together as I remember Naina's voiceover mentioning both of them were still friends.

BOLD: I think maybe they remained friends but probably after this incident, the 'best friend' tag might've been removed because after all, "dushman na kare dost ne woh kaam kia h, umra bar ka gam hume inam dia h.'
But, the volcano has erupted. I didn't like the fact today that Swati didn't allow Naina to clarify herself. Without even thinking, she said Naina didn't even think about making her a deputy when Naina was trying to say that she was planning to do so. I agree that Naina did 'kind of use' Swati for making her join elections and removing it without her permission when she was already preparing mid-way, that was bad, however, Naina did try to reason at one point with the gang that let Swati run for the GS position. Yet, Naina did try to think of making Swati a deputy.

It is sad that, without consulting with each other, the friendship was going through a rough time. This time, both sides were at fault, however, what Swati did was completely wrong. Naina did say to let her know about this incident, however, Swati assumed that Naina can easily understand her emotions.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#13
Swati is frustrated to be Naina's shadow from last 14 years . Swati decided to go sunaina to become her Shadow... means really by cheating her friend and Lover she want prove her self that she is better than Naina..

naina never think to cheat to any one in life... she is really pure soul.

Swati not deserve Friendship ... swati not only cheat naina but the whole gang...she forgot everything to just prove herself
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Posted: 7 years ago
#14
I dont know about others but since the first episode i never found their friendship two sided. It was onesided affair from naina's side and she is the one who put swathi on a "chane ki jhaad"
Samundit are great friends too but they never go around publicizing like naina and swati do.
Swati hasn't flipped but her dormant feelings resurfaced.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: priya_nka_yudkb

Agree that whatever Swati has done is not forgiving. But I don't agree that Naina has never done anything wrong with Swati. During Romeo Juliet play, she wanted to be Juliet and because of Sameer she first left the play and later when Swati got the role and Naina's MU about Sameer was cleared she again tried to get the role in place of Swati. Isnt that in a way a loss for Swati?

During mt Abu trip permission seeking... She did say that she didn't want to go because Swati was upset with her but at the same time she was making all efforts back home to get the permission..

At that point Swati's anger was fully justified. I remember when my best friends love marriage was announced, I was so upset as I had no clue of her being in a relationship. Yes we were living in different cities and didn't connect so often which might have made it difficult for her to share it with me but I still feel betrayed as I was the last one (according to me) to know about it. So at that point Swati being mad at Naina was completely justified. I was actually surprised how fast Swati forgot everything and moved on to call Sameer jijaji..

I think whatever we see now might be a outburst of a volcano building for years.. but I also feel somewhere that all characters have been twisted way too much to suit the storyline... Not every girl was so ambitious in 90s.. most of them only dreamed of getting married to a good boy because that's how they were brought up. There were very few like Naina who had other dreams and that's what sets Naina apart. But here we see that Swati all of a sudden becomes an ambitious girl which is so out of character I feel...


they werr kids then. Now they aren't.
And one more thing swati thought she got the role because she was beautiful and a good actress but she got the role because naina left it.
And eventually naina did not play juliet so that topic is out of question.

And girls were ambitious in 90s. Some got opportunities to make a career some didn't. But every girl who wnet to college and school was ambitious. Ambition is real but people working towards it were less.
Edited by Samaina12 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#16
Why have everyone forgeten that ki Naina ka name sunaina ne already Diya tha and I don't find wrong about Naina fighting for elections after rival gang behavior towards them. It was much needed and in the whole gang Naina hi karsakti coz ok tum kisi ki waja se election toh win Karol's but after that apne aap, apna mind use karke kam bhi karna padta. Real life mein har koi sab de pehele apne bare mein sochta hain and selfish bhi hota hain. Since drama ki baat ayi hain toh first mein toh Naina hi select hui thi, drama and election ka case kai na kai milta hain but hum isi se dekh sakte hain difference between two. Naina chahe ush time selfish hoke phir drama karna Chahati thi but she used to say ki no lekin swati kar Rahi Hain, isliye toh usne apna mazak banake sippai bani but here swati Bina ek bar soche Naina ka name ate hi usko Insecure Hone laga, phone kiya tha but ki bichari ek ladki ko thodi der ki Kushi to jene do. She could have gone next day and clear everything by no she didn't. Agar preeti hoti toh jake muh me bolti but doubt ditch nai karti. Swati agar baad mein samaj jati toh I would have said har koi karta hain but now her mistakes can't be ignore. Galti sab ne kiya tha but aisa nai kiya tha. Sam ne kiya but he used to feel guilty, sometime oh backup karna Chahata tha but Friends push kartthe usko but here swati ne toh ek bar bhi backup karna nai chaha. Chachaji ne mistake kiya but oh situation k hisab se thik tha coz agar kisi parents joh aap par itna bharosha karte hain Unko achanak ush situation mein usi insan ka jhut pata chale toh chachaji ne jaisa karte hain and Naina ka bhi sotuation k hisab se Sam ko break up DeNA bilkul thik tha, only think Mujhe pasand nai aya toh was Naina's dialogue ki tum baad mein family pehele. Arjun ne galti ki toh being a pressurized child, har koi Arjun k jaisa kam karta hain. Agar koi sach mein mistakes bina reason kiya hain toh oh hain, Rakesh, taiji, swati And sunaina. Sunaina ko yeh pata tha sam loves Naina, I agree boys did mistakes by playing with her, unone bhula ki har koi Naina jaisa nai hota and abhi sunaina ka ish behavior will make them remember in the future ki don't play game with anyone's feeling. But Sam ne time pe hi bataye and khatam kardiya but usko rejection se problem tha ki itna handsome ladka, paisa wala ladka, uske jaisi ladki ko chodke phir Naina k pass gaya not ki Sam ne uska dil thoda. Some in 4 people ki mistakes ko nazar nadaz karna mushkil hain. Swati agar realize ki kiya toh Deserve second chance but don't want Naina to have same relation as before. But isne joh kaha Naina ko kal bahut mushkil hain aab same dosti rakhna And joh gang ko betray ki mushkil hain unko uspar trust karna, Munna k bare mein toh I don't know what to say but I can say she doesn't deserve munna and swati case se munna ko lesson Milega thoda serious Hone k liye. Though munna election k time mein bhadka uske upar but aisa toh sach mein hota hain ki agar hum log koi kam oh bhi compete karne k liye karrhae toh ush time agar koi ake idar udar ki baat kare toh uspar BHAtakte hain, but ya jab JBR k samne swati k bare mein bolraha tha that was too rude and accha nai tha, she was his gf so aise kisi aur k samne insult nai karna chaiye tha. But yeh sab joh dikhaya hain real life mein hote hain so hats off to cvs for showing the reality and perfectly. Hats off to every character except rival gang to act perfectly. Rival gang k alawa sab ne bahut ache and real Tarike se act kiya hain. Mujhe kartik aur sunaina toh bahut hi cartoon types lagte hain, sunaina toh Mujhe 90s ki nai balki 2018 ki lagti hain, dress ho ya bolne k Tarika ho ya, acting ho.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: priya_nka_yudkb

Agree that whatever Swati has done is not forgiving. But I don't agree that Naina has never done anything wrong with Swati. During Romeo Juliet play, she wanted to be Juliet and because of Sameer she first left the play and later when Swati got the role and Naina's MU about Sameer was cleared she again tried to get the role in place of Swati. Isnt that in a way a loss for Swati?

During mt Abu trip permission seeking... She did say that she didn't want to go because Swati was upset with her but at the same time she was making all efforts back home to get the permission..

At that point Swati's anger was fully justified. I remember when my best friends love marriage was announced, I was so upset as I had no clue of her being in a relationship. Yes we were living in different cities and didn't connect so often which might have made it difficult for her to share it with me but I still feel betrayed as I was the last one (according to me) to know about it. So at that point Swati being mad at Naina was completely justified. I was actually surprised how fast Swati forgot everything and moved on to call Sameer jijaji..

I think whatever we see now might be a outburst of a volcano building for years.. but I also feel somewhere that all characters have been twisted way too much to suit the storyline... Not every girl was so ambitious in 90s.. most of them only dreamed of getting married to a good boy because that's how they were brought up. There were very few like Naina who had other dreams and that's what sets Naina apart. But here we see that Swati all of a sudden becomes an ambitious girl which is so out of character I feel...



I concur with ur post esply the point of twisting characters to suit the storyline. Obvsly Swati betrayal was never planned a yr back . So her character back then seemed fine. Whatever we conclude is a hindsight thinking on the basis of today's betrayal. Back then she seemed like a nice friend to naina ready to fight with anyone for her , same with naina.
The portrayal of Nai swa frshp however has been shallow since d beginning compared to samundit. Now ,The shift surely seems a drastic one to me for now. Another character down d drain imo. It is real but I never saw any jealousy kinda trait till this track.

Betrayal however was off the limit. Dunno how CVs plan to redeem her now esoly after some harsh dialogs.
Edited by Bombaysunshine - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#18
Sameer has a right to know about what swati did i want ht to happen
If swati was her so called best friend sameer is her love who cannot betray her even in wildest of her dreams
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Completely agree with your post. Swati thinks that all her loses are because of Naina , she is the only reason 😕. She is tired of being Naina's shadow, well i never felt like that. If she had this much of issues with Naina she could have studied better to score good marks, could have participated in dance and debate competitions. But she never did an attempt except this election thing. Her words conveyed that Naina purposefully didnt let her to come forward. That was disgusting from her part than this betrayal. Coming to Swana's friendship i never felt that much of strong vibes from it like i got from samundit. Samundit's 3 year old friendship is stronger than swana's 13 year old one. And it's also not about how long you have been friends with someone its about trust ,support,loyalty and love. It's her jealousy that played here.And I think she even outsmarted su and kartik here by taking out the chits from the staffroom. The only mistake Naina did here is that she ignored swati unknowingly. It isnt like that she was always blind to her so called BF's feelings. I felt bad for swati at that time but. And i can only support her in only one thing that Naina didn't asked her opinion. And other thing she said about munna supporting Naina ,it's not Naina's fault that he ridiculed swati. If she had an issue with that why didnt she confronted munna ?? Thats what people do, not backstabbing all of her friends. Her first dialogue in the classroom with Naina,clearly showed that how much she wanted Naina to loose and accept that failure. How cruel of her to think like that. She said Naina brought sameer between them,its not like Swana would be forever together. They are friends but does it mean that Naina cant love anyone else and cant give more place in her heart and life than swati??Honestly speaking I don't have any sympathy for swati.She is not at all guilty of her doings . I don't wanat Naina to forgive her easily or keep it as a secret either. Everyone worked hard for the campaign it won't be fair to them.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#20
What a beautiful post...The comparisons you draw is Apt to the point...
About swati saying she was a shadow behind Naina ...I seriously never saw that happening...Naina never subdued anyone ...Literary no one...She always out-performed in everything but she never tried to hold anyone otherwise she would not be helpful for her friends.(even munna pandit ) if Swati really wanted to rise she would have done that...Tried her best potential in performance and not follow the conceited ways...But she never ever tried...So how can anyone else be responsible for her failures...

Infact she became a shadow /puppet with Sunaina..Following her orders around...Proving she never had the guts to lead forward...(this is my understanding by watching the show...I am no one's hater nor supporter..)

Even if I dis-agree with Sunaina (more because the worst actor playing the character) ...But somewhere she is Rich, Beautiful ,Smart and betrayed in the name of rebound ( w hatever may be the reason but Sameer did accepted her ..But did he had same feelings toward Swati...Never ...Never in his dreams he thought of her or any other girl in that way .So it's not Naina's fault if she is love interest of Sameer... infact if not for bet ,I didn't think Sameer would have fallen for her or any other girl) ...So where sunaina has her reasons to give it back to Sameer hence Naina ...But she is in the front leading her hatred ...She had the guts to be competitive ,whatever methods of cheat she chose ...But she never showed double face...

About Munna...people who were praising him as caring friend in Samaina's case now blame him for mis treating Swati...( What a logic) ...Yes he should have considered his relationship more thoroughly but it's a personal outlook on relations ...Atleast he is loyal and trustworthy ...And with time he would have come out at front in terms of his relation as well ...But he never got the chance... People say it takes two to tango...So somewhere even Swati lacked in this relationship as did Munna...How can he be blamed as non-deserving ...In fact he deserve someone more loyal then the kind of girl Swati is...Someone to understand him ,respect him, and love him heartily...

Naina and Sameer had earned each other with their devotion in their relationship ( every time things got apart they stood firmly for each other not giving up...Even when the other person tried to leave the other one held onto their relationship...It's their bond ...So people who see them and idolise them would have taken some leaf from their book and learned how relationship goes )


People like are so real ..And you will always find someone like her among yourself...Be it your friend circle or family...
The thing is will Naina accept the redemption...Coz the betrayal she got is huge...Apart from winning or losing the fact that it was all along her so called BFF behind her down fall...Personally I want this to be a clean break between friends ...Their is no way back for Swati..( the amount of trust she broke ,betraying almost everyone..) ...it would happen like this in real life ...But this is fiction and we must be prepared for them to be friends for ever...

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