Sameer-Munna-promise and all

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Posted: 7 years ago
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The moment chachaji said yes to Samiana relationship Sameer was confident, happy, agreed to Chachaji's advice and took his blessings, as if he got his life back. It is what his heart wants, it was what he knows is the best thing can happen in his life. So, it was his first reaction. He only knows what Naina meant to him.
But, then what happened, he remembered Munna's promise but more his words and a fear attacked him, he was uncomfortable and unsure of his own decision of moving ahead with Naina.

If we look back at the 18th birthday night, Naina was all broken, at night she saw a dream that Sam is saying that we love each other and she is saying that yes, Sam is right. She supported what Sam said. Then she saw Chachaji was upset and went ahead to commit suicide like Rakesh. So, dream is our subconscious. She was sure that time about she will positively stand by Sam when the time come but the trauma of suicide was there and she didn't know what to do now. How could they go ahead with with their relationship. But, never thought of giving up.

In a huge emotional tarmoil, Shefali told her that like Arjun she will betray Sam infront of her family leaving him all broken so this is the high time to break her relationship with Sam and save him from more bigger heart break in future. It is the moment she loose her self confidence and started doubting herself and reason is drastic break-up with Sameer. The reason of break-up had came from self doubt and the virus implanted in her brain by Shefali. She was always a fighter, a girl who never acted as escapist.

Now, the act of Sam in temple after Chachaji's acceptance was the truth and his believe in his love and relationship. When he was unsure about Naina and the fate of their love was the doubt implanted in his brain by Munna at an emotionally weak moment.

Here, Naina doubted herself because of Shefali and now Sameer doubting his fate of love because of Munna.

Chachaji's promise can not be of same importance of Munna, it can be of same importance if it is from Nanaji. So, Munna is equal to Shefali in this scenario.

Now, comes to the limitation of Munna's interference in Samiana relationship. He only and only cares for Sam and his happiness. If it is right or wrong. A true friend always show the mirror to the friend. Where was Munna when Sam was entering in the bet, he was supporting him all the way because it was for Sameer's revenge and happiness. He started supporting Naina when she became Sameer's love interest, his happiness. The disgusting behenji became worthy. When he went to Delhi, he opposed Sam because he saw something which was destroying Sameer, It was again for Sameer's happiness. In maanhoos track he supported Naina as Sam's decision only making him unhappy and Naina was the answer for his happiness.Now, in recent times, when Sam was using Su for hurting Naina, he never stopped him, because Sam was using Su as an weapon for revenge he supported him. Once he told Pandit that Sam toh Su se apna dil behla raha hain, koi pyar nehi hain iss mein. Really! Su is a woman not a toy jisse dil behla jaye. What Sam was doing was wrong but he was going through a hurt burn too. But, where was his so called friend Munna to stop him from committing the huge mistake. Only because, he thought that it was giving some mental peace to Sam. When he is pointing fingers on Naina, did he know what actually happened to Naina or what she was going through these days. Yes, she failed to be strong when comes to love but it was not ultimate. With passing of time people changes. After one failure they can bounce back and can pass with flying colours. When he has no idea of Naina's side, he is not at all in a position to give any decision for their relationship. Last and not the least, kash Naina keh pate ki because of the idea given by them to Sam ( Rishta talk to Taiji) Naina ko kya jeena paar geya.

Munna is called as Rahu and Pandit as Ketu in school. Rahu is the who shows you the picture like movie of what can happen and made you believe that but they could not show you the larger picture or the real story beyond the visual. So, in Rahu dasha, everything goes wrong and people takes wrong decision. Rahu provokes you to that. Ketu never try to show you anything rather it bring you to spirituality, so always Pandit tries to push Sam to Naina, his love. As Sam worship their love, that is his sprituality.

Munna is not at all person who has enough brain or visionary to take any important decision in Samiana or others relationship. There is a saying that, intelligent enemy is better than dumb friend.

Till now, Sameer came in the relationship with Nanu's blessings and Support and Naina against chachaji's wish and support. Now, they are standing in the same platform when they can be judged equally.

Sorry for the long post.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I posted similar thoughts on Ross's thread today :)
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Very well written .. excellent job .
Totally agree , nobody cares what naina has gone thru last few months !!!
Why she needs to prove her love . She never said she anybody or leave any moment which she spent with Sameer & what Sameer did he said. I LOVE YOU TO SUNAINA I know majak me par kaha to !! Did bike ride with her , gone share col drink with her think to naina that she broke it !!!
Why Munna didn't stop Sameer that time & said you are doing wrong to naina ..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Loved your post. Too much interference into someone's life is not good for any relationship. Im ok with munnas fear for sameer even in yesterday's Epi it looked genuine to me. But that promise he took from sam not at all happy with that. Yesterday's episode was not satisfactory for me except the confession. But after that many things happened which didnt sit well with me, especially nainas behaviour. May be its because it wasn't like i wanted it to be. Here's my take i wasn't happy about munnas behaviour with naina during the breakup track specifically after he got to know about the rishta. He talked ill about her. It was rude. He supported su -sam relationship which was again wrong. Then came the promise . Its sameer and his life he wouldn't be happy without naina so that promise was like giving him poison. And i agree that munna is a great friend but only sameer's friend. He didnt even cared to talk about the whole issue to any of the girls. Samundit jumped into conclusions and made everything more messy. Now he is questioning naina and her love for sameer, what we will get today is a major stunt as a result. I would like to say that munna chose to see only sameer's pain not nainas. And its dissapointing. And rahu ,kethu symbolism is so apt. Pandit was happy after hearing about chachajis approval. Nobody is completely right or wrong here, everyone some way or the other did certain things which are not acceptable.I mean everyone including samaina and the gang. I would like to give preeti an exception here. ( she also didnt confront samundit but she is on track). I repeat the same thing in every post these people dont talk to each other. Major communication gap.😕
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Surydeep404

Very well written .. excellent job .
Totally agree , nobody cares what naina has gone thru last few months !!!
Why she needs to prove her love . She never said she anybody or leave any moment which she spent with Sameer & what Sameer did he said. I LOVE YOU TO SUNAINA I know majak me par kaha to !! Did bike ride with her , gone share col drink with her think to naina that she broke it !!!
Why Munna didn't stop Sameer that time & said you are doing wrong to naina ..


He was doing more wrong to Sunaina. Because, about Naina it was like showing he doesn't care, he is happy without her it is the way to show his anger. It was between them and somehow Naina realised that too but he was playing with Su's emotion and was using her to hurt Naina. It is a huge mistake. I don't like Su but as a woman can't support what happened to Su.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Koyel dil le lo yaar..the way you put your post with words is amazing...Each and every sentence making full impact...
With passing of time people changes. After one failure they can bounce back and can pass with flying colours.

So true... ...

There is a saying that, intelligent enemy is better than dumb friend.


In any relationship involvement of a third party after an extent creates issues.. ( Like MIL's interfering in their son's life ) ..Either it will break the relationship or it will make you lose your place in their relationship...So here Munna may either make them apart...Or munna will himself lose his place and respect after they are together...

If sameer and Naina love each other only they need to realize that love and the importance of each other in their lives...

The comparisons you gave about Shefali and Munna was bang on...And strange people supporting everything about Sameer and hia family and his friends are always the one to bash Naina ,her family ,and her friends...

Munna's promise is important but chachaji is a backstabber, double faced and what not...How unappropriate ...

Other then this we should not forget that they are couple ..When they are in this relationship they are one..You can't love one and loathe other...It was sameer's to chose Naina, and ignore the hardships or let's say package( arjun, rakesh ,tai ,tau etc etc) or say baggage...If sameer didn't understand his girl then their be no point in berating anyone...So that way Naina was again right and clever to leave with her doubt ...She did never blame sameer ever...Remember..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lavender25

Loved your post. Too much interference into someone's life is not good for any relationship. Im ok with munnas fear for sameer even in yesterday's Epi it looked genuine to me. But that promise he took from sam not at all happy with that. Yesterday's episode was not satisfactory for me except the confession. But after that many things happened which didnt sit well with me, especially nainas behaviour. May be its because it wasn't like i wanted it to be. Here's my take i wasn't happy about munnas behaviour with naina during the breakup track specifically after he got to know about the rishta. He talked ill about her. It was rude. He supported su -sam relationship which was again wrong. Then came the promise . Its sameer and his life he wouldn't be happy without naina so that promise was like giving him poison. And i agree that munna is a great friend but only sameer's friend. He didnt even cared to talk about the whole issue to any of the girls. Samundit jumped into conclusions and made everything more messy. Now he is questioning naina and her love for sameer, what we will get today is a major stunt as a result. I would like to say that munna chose to see only sameer's pain not nainas. And its dissapointing. And rahu ,kethu symbolism is so apt. Pandit was happy after hearing about chachajis approval. Nobody is completely right or wrong here, everyone some way or the other did certain things which are not acceptable.I mean everyone including samaina and the gang. I would like to give preeti an exception here. ( she also didnt confront samundit but she is on track). I repeat the same thing in every post these people dont talk to each other. Major communication gap.😕


Even I was not happy with what happen after Mandir. Cvs failed again in reunion scene or may be they want to show the proper reunion after today's episode. After the break up Samiana will re-unite again. But the mark of the joining point will go after the heart to heart talk between Samiana. This time I want Preeti to open up as Munna became vocal for Sam , it is the time Munna should know because of his idea to do Rishta talk to Taiji, Naina ko kya jeena par geya. Rather uske sare parivaar ko kya jeena paar geya.( Parivaar means Anand's family).
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I agree with you at many levels.. There shouldn't be a comparison between Munna and chachaji. Also, no one understands what Naina had to go through this entire time. She is not very outspoken or expressive so people don't get to see what emotional turmoil she is going through except Preeti who knows her in and out. Just because Sameer expressed his pain by doing baba avatar and starting an affair with Su..doesn't mean Naina was in happyland. We also don't know what she was going to do/say to Sameer in the cafe when she was going to propose him..
Friends can be positive/negative influence and Munna here is bringing a lot of negativity. He could have expressed his concern with less impulsiveness. Even if he is only worried for Sam then he should try to find solutions rather than make situations worse.

Anyways, I am still hoping that Naina will have some better logic behind suicide attempt like, drilling some sense in Munna or show him how she was on the fence between choosing her family over Sameer, than doing for Munna's mental peace..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I agree with you..Munna is right in pne way but neither has he nor has sameer tried to understand what naina went through...how cunnigly tayiji fixed her marriage..

Agar naina ko sabit karna hai aur guilt feel karna toh phor sameer ko bhi naina ko visjwas dilana ho ga ke voh kabhi kissi aur ladki ke paas nahi jayeg..
He has to feel what hurt he caused naina with his sunaina drama and the way he defeamed nainas love...
All I'm saying is that they both are roght and both are wrong..you can't blame just one...

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