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Posted: 7 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r


@bold - Very true Poo. He was in depression , but how long and from when he actually suffered a memory loss, who all and what all incidents of life does he remember and from when he is unable to recognize his own kids is a mystery.😕. If you see, Ruhi does not even seem to know about his memory loss. So he should have been in deep depression for more than a year or so and from a few months since Ruhi left, the cheapos should have been feeding him with banned medicines and his health has further deteriorated. 😕

From what can I think of :- There is a possibility that he went in to a depression when his last hope that Ruhi & Pihu meeting Ishita in prison, would make her to confess the truth, was also crushed, when she refused to even meet the kids again. She has already told him loud and clear during Ruhi - Nikhil fiasco, that her kids come to her first and if there is a situation she has to chose between him and them, she would obviously choose the kids over him. So may be he thought, she would confess the truth to him later, atleast after meeting the kids and seeing how they are lost without her. because if not for him, atleast for the sake of kids, who are her lifelines, she would reconsider and tell him the truth. It was not that he left her to rot in prison. He came there the next day along with the kids, when he angrily vouched the previous day, he will never come to the prison and meet her. Since his last hope also crushed, may be from then on, he might have been restless and sleepless, not knowing how to get the truth out of her and save her.

Remember, the next day, Ishita wrote that letter to shagun, param got hold of the letter and started his planning. My guess is, Param and Simmi might have started drugging him with anti-depressants from then itself, stating that it would help him get over the stress. Gradual increase in the dosage of anti-depressants would impair the normal functioning of an individual to a greater extent and after a point of time, they become addicted to it, because they just want to doze off and be at peace rather than being stressed out and in a dizzy state always. They would not be able to think about anything and anyone else. The stupid, useless family might have ignored it assuming they are doing a world of favor to Raman by constantly letting his sleep😡. This is when Simmi and Param might have tricked Raman in to signing documents, transferring powers, throwing Ruhi out etc. Even for Pihu that Simmi cheapo would have used Raman's health condition as an excuse to put her in boarding, so that she is not affected by her father's state and the family might have appreciated Simmi for her great thoughts and agreed to this blindly. 😡

Never in his conscious, can Raman ever leave his child rot alone in a boarding school and just not bother about her at all. Just like Ishita has some "never ever" she can do that, Raman also has such "never ever"s and as long as he is in full conscience, he would never ever let his kids suffer and would ensure he protects them, by going to any extent 😳.

Hopefully, the makers give proper reasons for everything and not just close this track within one episode of Raman getting back memory and Toshi, Simmi, Param being forgiven and taken back in to the family and no proper confrontation and talk between IshRa.😕🥱


Raman depression is biggest question before ishra get separated many times in first leap both ruhi ishita declared dead Raman become ruthless heartless but never went to deep depression. Ishita was in jail only either if ishita refused meeting anyone Raman should not stop fighting for her he will used everything he can to find truth . Raman situation & his ML not convinced because we know Raman is strong person in worse situation he never went to depression how come now there is many questions but we know no logic in yhm
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Depression may come any time in a person's life.
Some trigger.
That's it.
Not many may be aware if it.
It is easily ignored.Hence worsens in several cases.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Depression may come any time in a person's life.
Some trigger.
That's it.
Not many may be aware if it.
It is easily ignored.Hence worsens in several cases.[/QUOT
Raman strong person he face worse in his life he lost both wife & daughter at same time he never went to depression how come now

From where Ashok get money before leap his bank balnce was zero

Ruhi become biggest business woman over nights

Many logic question with illogical answers by yhm cvs
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Raman has a mental problem.
He has valid reasons for it.
Anybody can suffer from depression anytime in their life.
Irrespective of how strong a chr they may have been.
The current drugs may have worsened an existing problem.
Obviously a wife recognises his condition better.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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As much as medicine family support is equally important to come out of it.
Medicine alone is not the cure.
The root cause n trigger should be eliminated.
The rest of the cases are more fictional.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: GBSC

As much as medicine family support is equally important to come out of it.
Medicine alone is not the cure.
The root cause n trigger should be eliminated.
The rest of the cases are more fictional.


Ishita should be in ballah house to save Raman & protect him & her family waiting Raman to remember it's could be late yhm cvs need to speed up track little bit
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Posted: 7 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r


@bold - Very true Poo. He was in depression , but how long and from when he actually suffered a memory loss, who all and what all incidents of life does he remember and from when he is unable to recognize his own kids is a mystery.😕. If you see, Ruhi does not even seem to know about his memory loss. So he should have been in deep depression for more than a year or so and from a few months since Ruhi left, the cheapos should have been feeding him with banned medicines and his health has further deteriorated. 😕

From what can I think of :- There is a possibility that he went in to a depression when his last hope that Ruhi & Pihu meeting Ishita in prison, would make her to confess the truth, was also crushed, when she refused to even meet the kids again. She has already told him loud and clear during Ruhi - Nikhil fiasco, that her kids come to her first and if there is a situation she has to chose between him and them, she would obviously choose the kids over him. So may be he thought, she would confess the truth to him later, atleast after meeting the kids and seeing how they are lost without her. because if not for him, atleast for the sake of kids, who are her lifelines, she would reconsider and tell him the truth. It was not that he left her to rot in prison. He came there the next day along with the kids, when he angrily vouched the previous day, he will never come to the prison and meet her. Since his last hope also crushed, may be from then on, he might have been restless and sleepless, not knowing how to get the truth out of her and save her.

Remember, the next day, Ishita wrote that letter to shagun, param got hold of the letter and started his planning. My guess is, Param and Simmi might have started drugging him with anti-depressants from then itself, stating that it would help him get over the stress. Gradual increase in the dosage of anti-depressants would impair the normal functioning of an individual to a greater extent and after a point of time, they become addicted to it, because they just want to doze off and be at peace rather than being stressed out and in a dizzy state always. They would not be able to think about anything and anyone else. The stupid, useless family might have ignored it assuming they are doing a world of favor to Raman by constantly letting his sleep😡. This is when Simmi and Param might have tricked Raman in to signing documents, transferring powers, throwing Ruhi out etc. Even for Pihu that Simmi cheapo would have used Raman's health condition as an excuse to put her in boarding, so that she is not affected by her father's state and the family might have appreciated Simmi for her great thoughts and agreed to this blindly. 😡

Never in his conscious, can Raman ever leave his child rot alone in a boarding school and just not bother about her at all. Just like Ishita has some "never ever" she can do that, Raman also has such "never ever"s and as long as he is in full conscience, he would never ever let his kids suffer and would ensure he protects them, by going to any extent 😳.

Hopefully, the makers give proper reasons for everything and not just close this track within one episode of Raman getting back memory and Toshi, Simmi, Param being forgiven and taken back in to the family and no proper confrontation and talk between IshRa.😕🥱

u surely make sense indeed priya 😳
Thats y i love ur thoughts always.. u will think from both sides will not forcefully criticise the one
Yes just like ishita 'never ever' can do something that goes for raman too and we know raman will nvr leave his kid to rot in boarding plus as u said he went PS again with kids with a hope again even after vouching not to see her face may b after that he lost hopes n fell into depression or he might b doing something still who knows ..i m not understanding y comparing first leap with this one k y didnt fall into depression then.. a person his/her mind can react differently at different point of time ..anyways
Lets see i too hope they show a proper talk btwn ishra a confrontation is needed from both sides and give some proper reasons ans answers we want bt going by yhm cvs record we may get track close within half epi
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: 3fra


Raman depression is biggest question before ishra get separated many times in first leap both ruhi ishita declared dead Raman become ruthless heartless but never went to deep depression. Ishita was in jail only either if ishita refused meeting anyone Raman should not stop fighting for her he will used everything he can to find truth . Raman situation & his ML not convinced because we know Raman is strong person in worse situation he never went to depression how come now there is many questions but we know no logic in yhm


Getting separated many times is not a question at all, because they were either in the plan together in second leap or were trying to get back together in the small misunderstandings that happened so far, except for the first leap. Also in the first leap, both of Ishita & Ruhi were assumed dead. He could not have done anything to save them after that. He was in guilt and depression too , but there was none in the family who wanted to make use of the situation, harm him further and hinder his day to day function. All of them were infact worried for him, stood by him and wanted him to get over. Yet he did not fail to discharge the duties of a father to Pihu. Yes, he did take Adi for granted & emotionally was not available as a father when his mother was not around, but still he did involve Adi in business, shaped his career and got Mihir to guide Adi. Mihir was the biggest support system for Raman back then, both personally and professionally, who helped him get back on track. Even then, when it mattered the most, like Adi arrested for misbehaving with Alia, Raman did rush to the police station and stood by him as a father.

This time around, he is in to depression, because he can still save her, he can still do something to get her out, but he is unable to do anything because Ishita has closed all doors for him and is not considering him worthy of sharing the truth with. He can fight for Ishita, only if she had cooperated, trusted him, confided in him and told the truth. Did he not fight for her during chadda track, when she was sentenced?😕 Why was he able to? Because she told him the truth back then. Now she has a reason of saving Pihu and hence taking a blame. But even then, only had she confided in him, told the truth, he could have looked for solutions. He can't keep assuming who she is trying to save and what would have been the truth.
If she repeatedly claims before law, she actually killed Ananya and was not even ready to admit it happened by accident, what would Raman do?😕 .Most importantly, Simmi and Param were determined to defeat Ishita and they know they would be victorious only if they make her kids suffer and go through hell. The biggest obstacle for all this would be Raman, if he is in full senses. So they have used the situation in their favor and ensured he is harmed the most, made unfit, so that they can easily go on in their mission.

Also there is no hard and fast rule for human body that only so&so situation can cause a depression and if a person was able to get over that situation, he should not at all be depressed, when something lesser uneventful happens and he should stay strong.😲😕. After all he is a human, he has his own emotions & ways of reacting to and dealing with stress, their relationship also has far more matured than the first leap & this separation has left him totally stressed out & depressed. And to add to this, when his own people have used it against him, in favor of their evil plans, nothing much can be done about by him. Both the situations are entirely different and I see no point in comparing them, unless the main purpose of such a point, is to prove how useless is Raman as a character, husband or a father, which happens with few people here out of obsession to spread hate towards Raman.

This is my view point and it is perfectly fine if people don't agree to this. 😊
Edited by priyadarshini.r - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: 3fra


Raman is not brave specialy the matter associate with ishita.Ishita is his breath to live,she is equally his strength & vulnerability.At first leap he has responsibility he has pihu for whom he should live because she is ishita's last symbol.And after leap in saree pin scene he is telling to ishita he believed she will come back to him.So he lived with that belief
Also at that time to he was not normal fully that's also a type of depression only.At the time of second leap we saw how much desperate he was to see ishita & that why he send vidyud.Here at this age Raman doesn't need anyone but his wife his soulmate. Here the main trigger which is undone to him is he got rejected by ishita(,in jail) for the first time that only need for him to loss his sanity.He can't stand ishita's rejection so that's why we hear the dialogue in jail sequence from him.At the time of first leap Raman's rejection triggered ishita to suicide attempt.The thing is ishra can't stand one another rejection.
Ashok ,cvs show him as a politician before this 2 year leap itself.And he was neither bankrupt they show him as just Raman's rebel.
Ruhi she can be rockstar,UG & PG graduate or business women anything in just a second

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r


Getting separated many times is not a question at all, because they were either in the plan together in second leap or were trying to get back together in the small misunderstandings that happened so far, except for the first leap. Also in the first leap, both of Ishita & Ruhi were assumed dead. He could not have done anything to save them after that. He was in guilt and depression too , but there was none in the family who wanted to make use of the situation, harm him further and hinder his day to day function. All of them were infact worried for him, stood by him and wanted him to get over. Yet he did not fail to discharge the duties of a father to Pihu. Yes, he did take Adi for granted & emotionally was not available as a father when his mother was not around, but still he did involve Adi in business, shaped his career and got Mihir to guide Adi. Mihir was the biggest support system for Raman back then, both personally and professionally, who helped him get back on track, specifically in the professional front. Even then, when it mattered the most, like Adi arrested for misbehaving with Alia, Raman did rush to the police station and stood by him as a father.

This time around, he is in to depression, because he can still save her, he can still do something to get her out, but he is unable to do anything because Ishita has closed all doors for him and is not considering him worthy of sharing the truth with. He can fight for Ishita, only if she had cooperated, trusted him, confided in him and told the truth. Did he not fight for her during chadda track, when she was sentenced?😕 Why was he able to? Because she told him the truth back then. Now she has a reason of saving Pihu and hence taking a blame. But even then, only had she confided in him, told the truth, he could have looked for solutions. He can't keep assuming who she is trying to save and what would have been the truth.
If she repeatedly claims before law, she actually killed Ananya and was not even ready to admit it happened by accident, what would Raman do?😕 .Most importantly, Simmi and Param were determined to defeat Ishita and they know they would be victorious only if they make her kids suffer and go through hell. The biggest obstacle for all this would be Raman, if he is in full senses. So they have used the situation in their favor and ensured he is harmed the most, made unfit, so that they can easily go on in their mission.

Also there is no hard and fast rule for human body that only so&so situation can cause a depression and if a person was able to get over that situation, he should not at all be depressed, when something lesser uneventful happens and he should stay strong.😲😕. After all he is a human, he has his own emotions & ways of reacting to and deal with stress, their relationship also has far more matured than the first leap & this separation has left him totally stressed out & depressed. And to add to this, when his own people have used it against him, in favor of their evil plans, nothing much can be done about by him. Both the situations are entirely different and I see no point in comparing them, unless the main purpose of such a point, is to prove how useless is Raman as a character, husband or a father, which happens with few people here out of obsession to spread hate towards Raman.

This is my view point and it is perfectly fine if people don't agree to this. 😊


I didn't mention Raman is uselss or horrible character my points not against Raman but I am clearly not justified with Raman depression & ML as param started his plan after one year both simmi param get married after one year since ishita been in jail & In one of conversation between param & simmi this medication kaanda since 4 months only there is many loops which make whole situation not convinced

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