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Posted: 8 years ago
#61
I think shagun will know about ishita plan before kunal changed his mind shagun will run away with pihu, raman as usual will blame ishita with out knowing anything & will leave behind shagun & pihu
story is clear but how ishira will end up in Australia let see
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: -K.13-

Priya - it was in the UMT update yesterday that Sneha provided where Ashok's name was dropped by Raman to try to convince Kunal that he is being played! 😃



raman action stupid as kunal is only lawyer in whole india , he is god who will correct raman mistakes, how many lawyers raman met since pihu custody yhm cv's turn raman to biggest joke
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: snehaseshan


I accept with u abt writing such insensitive story but don't agree with u ppl blaming Ah for acting such scenes .. coz I feel actors doesn't have any say in story so there I point in blaming her.l ppl who r to b blamed r only d writers.. like wise wen KP cannot be blamed for uttering d abusive dialogues to ishita I feel Ah also shouldn't blamed..

No offence meant just my POV


Agree Sneha. I take back my words about an actor's say, if at all she has no say.

But there is no denying the fact that the entire show has been damaged and made so illogical and insensible because of the undue advantage her character gets. I repeat, no antagonist has been given so much importance, where the very basic characteristics of the main leads have to be compromised and butchered to glorify the antagonist. No, not one show, not even a EK show I can think of, as far as I know. So IMO, there is no denying the fact that so much of undue importance has been given to the character and such sensitive issues are brought in first place, to glorify this character alone. Just my thoughts.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: 3fra




raman action stupid as kunal is only lawyer in whole india , he is god who will correct raman mistakes, how many lawyers raman met since pihu custody yhm cv's turn raman to biggest joke



They did use another lawyer in role swap & they lost Shagun's custody - until the suicide truth is out with solid proof - Shagun legally will be shown with the upper hand especially as Mihika and Ishita were caught in some bribery ring that only we know is staged. Oh and the only people to know Pihu got burnt are Amma and Toshiji who are biased character witnesses per the court

So yes BOTH IshRa should seek another lawyer but aren't as there wouldn't be drama so who will correct both IshRa? Ishita will do doubt start to solve things sans legal help bc this is a show centered on the super bahu FL so yes Raman is useless but what mistake did he made in regards to the lawyer? He was told Kunal is the best custody lawyer and believes Kunal is being played by Ashok into acting like that so there should be a way to show him that his notions about Mihika are wrong & that he should still fight for Pihu'/ custody, na?

I am sorry for replying & disagreeing but I can't 24x7 crucify one character
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: -K.13-



Priya - I disagree about the fact they were not like this preleap...in fact they were & I whined about it then. During sautan sagas - Ishita poured her true feelings to Amma in an entire episode but not to Raman. During miscarriage - she didn't open up to anyone. It's just post leap they have made her mature of brushing emotions off more common but even more than they - they've doubled raman's anger.

This dynamic is why we whine that even when Raman speaks the right things, his tone negates it bc Ishita doesn't react to his tone. Thus it is shown that Ishita understands why Raman's acts certain ways bc well he loudly voices out his thoughts/feelings, & while Raman should be more considerate naturally..he also has no clue how she feels...heck even the viewers don't in understamd how she feels bc even when aren't shown tho this as her character brushes things off sadly .

Just as Raman is hard to live with for being short tempered...Ishita is equally hard to live with bc she brushes things off and does not open up.

It is the perfect storm for MUs & dramas though as we have seen time and time again since Jan 215
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Yup, you have a point. Agree. But then, even during surrogacy, she did not take it as such. She questioned Raman about his act of gifting her a child, much against her wish. Here post leap, she just takes in everything. She has totally stopped voicing about her feelings and opinion. Remember, she once said to vandhu, post leap that she doesn't have it in her anymore to argue with him and explain things.😕. While she has completely shut down from voicing her opinion post leap, Raman has doubled his impulsive nature and hence it looks ugly for us. I don't know if I made sense, but that is what I feel.😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r



Yup, you have a point. Agree. But then, even during surrogacy, she did not take it as such. She questioned Raman about his act of gifting her a child, much against her wish. Here post leap, she just takes in everything. She has totally stopped voicing about her feelings and opinion. Remember, she once said to vandhu, post leap that she doesn't have it in her anymore to argue with him and explain things.😕. While she has completely shut down from voicing her opinion post leap, Raman has doubled his impulsive nature and hence it looks ugly for us. I don't know if I made sense, but that is what I feel.😊



Priya - but did she actually question him in surrogacy? Bc at the point of the "confrontation"...it was shown IshGun and gang started their planning and was shown as the impetus of Shagun committing suicide. The one good scene they had was essentially negated when they showed the Diwali or KC reveal of the fab 4's planning.

She voiced herself about Vandu's delivery data ho jao/fight but that was turned into a stupid men versus woman thing. She voiced herself during C night. And maybe in addition to these last year she told Raman how she felt 3-4 more times only.

And she did say that to Vandu but that was during heights of Ruhi hates Ishita. So again she has just more visibly shut down but it quite honestly isn't anything new for Ishita. Just like Raman got way more visibly short tempered
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r


Agree Sneha. I take back my words about an actor's say, if at all she has no say.

But there is no denying the fact that the entire show has been damaged and made so illogical and insensible because of the undue advantage her character gets. I repeat, no antagonist has been given so much importance, where the very basic characteristics of the main leads have to be compromised and butchered to glorify the antagonist. No, not one show, not even a EK show I can think of, as far as I know. So IMO, there is no denying the fact that so much of undue importance has been given to the character and such sensitive issues are brought in first place, to glorify this character alone. Just my thoughts.


Totally agree that d show has been damaged beyond repair totally accept that showing such insensitive story is wrong..but coming to giving antagonist getting screen space I gues most of EK show is like that only look at kkb there tanu& aalia is always shown planning plotting against pragya & there screen space is also too much so guess it's EK way of writing stories..

But I'm totally against showing such insensitive stuff in YHM ..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I don't know how yhm cv's brain worked , ok ishra will get separated raman will leave behind shagun & pihu, ishita will be with family

it's never come to yhm cv's mind audiences are fed up with separation & reunion game

what efter every 6 months , MU,SEPARATION, LEAP, REUNION


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Sneha - you are right...I was going to say this yday but forgot, but...

In Ekta shows the FL and the vamps are the 2 more well known characters...characters like Komolika, Shagun, etc go down in history bc of their omnipotence as vamps just like the Tulsi, Parvati, Ishita etc do

Ekta shows survive on the never ending battle between FL and Female Vamp...that's why in most shows vamps get more importance than the ML.

YHM was unique bc ML had equal importance and now has become near vamp levels ping pong ball (which the ping pong ball is not new for men in BT shows...they thrive on a man with no brain who just does what women tell him to - be it his mom, wife, or the vamp).

It's just in YHM - bc it's BT on SP's nayi soch channel...we get social issues botched for the sake of vamp drama as SP's was of "maturely raising awareness"
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: snehaseshan


Yest there was a segment were Raman is shouting at Ishita in police station stating that y u r worried abt achai aur burai.. Raman telling kunal that ashok is playing games so that means Raman is aware of ashok's involvement & wen ishita & Mihika gets arrested don't u think Raman wil get to know that kunal has framed them so after that only he wants kunal to fight pihu's case & shouting at ishita's for being d reason of losing a chance of pihu's custody that's wat I meant.. I didn't make predictions by own as d above segments depicts that Raman is aware of kunal's truth & ashok's involvement which is y I said so..


Oh OK Sneha. I was not aware. I never said you made predictions on your own. Did I? I just asked if there were any segments and clearly told I could not hear anything sneha. Why would I say you are making predictions, without knowing if such a thing was aired or not and for things not audible to me?

If they have shown that Raman knows the entire truth and also that Kunal is the blackmailer and Raman said why bother about Mihika' izzat, he is definitely wrong. But after knowing that Nidhi is a cruel woman, yet to get the chip from her to save Ishita, if Raman and his actions to stick to that lawyer is considered OK, then even after knowing that Kunal tried this game with Mihika, misguided by Ashok, I don't think Raman can be considered as completely wrong in still going for a custody battle. Because even before, to save Ishita, it is not that Nidhi was the only lawyer na? The same case applies here. Till now, we just got to hear, he tried discussing with other lawyer and they are bound by some clauses. So he is helpless. Now it is being shown that Kunal is the only lawyer who can fight a custody battle, yet he has this negative aspect, much like Nidhi had. So yes, I partially agree with you on the woman's izzat part and Kunal doing it as per Ashok's words is wrong, but I don't think Raman still wanting Kunal to fight the custody battle can be termed completely wrong, professionally.

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