UMT Updated 3/11/16 - Page 6

i am speechless🤬🤬

Originally posted by: snehaseshan

Priya ishita is at fault in hiding d Mihika fiasco to Raman but if kunal is actually behind dat wil IT b right in believing a lawyer who has played wit a women's dignity & played games to get d custody of a kid inspite if known get he is involved wit ashok.. he has trapped ishita & Mihika then Raman blaming ishita for losing a chance of getting pihu's custody is not totally right.. can understand his fear of losing pihu but he shouting at ishita for bringing out kunal's truth as hel lose d chance of getting d custody is wrong na.. .. Being selfish & not exposing kunal just coz he can get pihu's custody is also wrong na.. Till now Raman didn't even approach any lawyer for d custody now believing kunal blindly inspite of his wrong doings is wrong.. wat is d guarantee that kunal wil not backstab him getting influenced by ashok again .. sometimes Raman becomes blind which is wrong.. I'm not at all supporting ishita in hiding d Mihika fiasco. But believing a person who has played wit a women's dignity doesn't go well with me & shouting at ishita for bringing his truth out is wrong IMO

Originally posted by: mcvra

But I think the main problem for ishita v/s raman is their fights are not balanced. ishita taking all blames and not answering back even if she is not at fault.i m not telling about this Kunal fiasco but about pihu knowing about her truth incident.she was hurt by whatever raman said but when he realised his mistake she already apologised him and asked him not to feel sorry.this actions makes her more pitiable and make raman as a janwar.Also she didn't question him for leaving the mandap and she didn't question him for not writing her name in birth certificate and so many.it is being projected as ishita forgives all Raman's actions and raman doesn't do that in return.i'm not against raman's anger.he gets angry in the situations in which any normal human will react in the same way.but it's becoz of ishitha's Mahaan attitude it looks like raman is always angry and ishita is the one to bear the brunt of his anger.but before leap ishita was not like this.even if raman blames her for anything she used to give him back or Atleast be angry with him. Nowadays she is not getting angry for anything.she is taking all the blame which is sad and this becomes the reason for viewers to get angry on raman. I don't know y cvs want to project their leads like this.

I fully agree - that's why everyone just wants Ishita to voice her emotions bc it would balance the plying field. I don't want her to go on some cold-hearted or whatever streak but I disagree about the timing...

Since January 2015 during Sautan Sagas...Ishita rarely voices her emotions to the ONE person who needs to hear it. Yea you can't get to someone when they are angry but like 2 days ago when Raman was appologzing she did not let him finish and absolved him.

Raman, too, absolves her of mistakes but unlike Ishita - he first reacts then thinks to forgive...with this Pihu truth as the prime example. His worries about Pihu knowing the truth came out in anger but ishita'/ views on situations don't come out in front of Raman.

In YHM - Raman, whether in anger or normalacy or tears, has only Ishita a confidant of his emotions but Ishita turns to Amma/Mihika/Toshiji/Aliya/Ruhi the few times she does open up. This how can it be Ishita versus Raman when one is always clueless about the others feelings - during miscarriage track Raman assumed about her emotions & that led to surrogacy. As hard as it is to live with someone with a short temper, it is equally hard to live with someone who doesn't open up and brushes matters off so that's why Ishita versus Raman doesn't make sense to me

Since Jan of last year I brought this unbalance up but now it's at the point it doesn't matter bc the xharacterizations are solid in stone - one lead doesn't voice her valid emotions/logic to the right person and the other voices his emotions/logic in a harsh tone most often in reaction to some situation. They want to show a near perfect woman who can handle any emotion elegantly and a man who can only handle messes in an impulsive manner

Originally posted by: mcvra

But I think the main problem for ishita v/s raman is their fights are not balanced. ishita taking all blames and not answering back even if she is not at fault.i m not telling about this Kunal fiasco but about pihu knowing about her truth incident.she was hurt by whatever raman said but when he realised his mistake she already apologised him and asked him not to feel sorry.this actions makes her more pitiable and make raman as a janwar.Also she didn't question him for leaving the mandap and she didn't question him for not writing her name in birth certificate and so many.it is being projected as ishita forgives all Raman's actions and raman doesn't do that in return.i'm not against raman's anger.he gets angry in the situations in which any normal human will react in the same way.but it's becoz of ishitha's Mahaan attitude it looks like raman is always angry and ishita is the one to bear the brunt of his anger.but before leap ishita was not like this.even if raman blames her for anything she used to give him back or Atleast be angry with him. Nowadays she is not getting angry for anything.she is taking all the blame which is sad and this becomes the reason for viewers to get angry on raman. I don't know y cvs want to project their leads like this.

Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r

@blue - Bang on Bhuvana. You can give lengthy interviews about the need of an antagonist in a show, but you stoop so low that you are ready to act such sensitive scenes, as long as you get screen space and importance? Yuck is the one word for the character shagun and the actress portraying it.😡🤢

And also people jump to conclusions about Raman believing shagun. Just want to know if there was any scenes on him blaming Ishita and taking sides in any of segments? 😕. Anyways, When a child has attempted suicide and escaped death, what would a father do? Not react? Now just when Kunal has rejected the case, will he not fear his daughter trying to repeat the act again? If Ishita can still believe shagun and say "Shagun, can she fall so low? ", that is absolutely fine, but if Raman believes that it is a suicide attempt, then he believes shagun is it?😕🥱. Hilarious Bhuvana😆. Obviously, he will have his blame, because of Ishita's senseless exposing attempts, the whole Pihu situation is now jeopardized. He is not totally wrong in blaming Ishita, in my opinion because what Ishita did is a big mistake, of not taking anyone in to confidence.. Even now, after knowing the truth, Alia runs to Ishita & Mihika to tell the truth and none of them feel the need to inform Raman. Now again if shagun becomes intelligent here and traps Ishita, again Raman will be at fault. Right? All in all, Ishita is never at fault, is it? Quite strange. 😕

Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r

Word 👏👏. Agree with each word you said. Unfortunately, it is all getting ugly for the sake of drama and TRPs

@bold - That is why it becomes really difficult to relate to IshRa many a times, post leap. They were not the same before leap. Khair.

Priya - I disagree about the fact they were not like this preleap...in fact they were & I whined about it then. During sautan sagas - Ishita poured her true feelings to Amma in an entire episode but not to Raman. During miscarriage - she didn't open up to anyone. It's just post leap they have made her mature of brushing emotions off more common but even more than they - they've doubled raman's anger.

This dynamic is why we whine that even when Raman speaks the right things, his tone negates it bc Ishita doesn't react to his tone. Thus it is shown that Ishita understands why Raman's acts certain ways bc well he loudly voices out his thoughts/feelings, & while Raman should be more considerate naturally..he also has no clue how she feels...heck even the viewers don't in understamd how she feels bc even when aren't shown tho this as her character brushes things off sadly .

Just as Raman is hard to live with for being short tempered...Ishita is equally hard to live with bc she brushes things off and does not open up.

It is the perfect storm for MUs & dramas though as we have seen time and time again since Jan 215
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Originally posted by: -K.13-

From what we have seen in the segments though he had a problem with HOW it was done...Kunal essentially succeeded in putting a poor image on Mihika and Ishita which not only lost them a lawyer to help get Pihu back but also gave Shagun more ammo in spite of Shagun's sheer neglegance of Pihu until this staged suicide where she directly endangered her. If I remember correctly, there was a segment Taman tried to explain to Kunal that ashok was using him - now it remains to see if Kunal comes to believe he was misguided or is genuinely selfish for his brother'/ seat...and only Romi and Mihir, his friends, can dispell that myth.

No woman's character should be maliagned but what the problem is not only did Kunal refuse the case but until now in the character's POV Shagun had the advantage.

As for not looking for another lawyer - I though he tried to legally work in role swap...then both IshRa forgot Pihu during double A nonsense...and now they may show it like Nidhi where Kunal is the only chance as no one else things IshRa can win bc IshRa in a majboor unfortunate spot is how this show ticks

Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r

@bold - Krishy, Did Raman take Ashok's name? Are Ishita-Mihika aware that Ashok is with Kunal in all these?😕 I don't know, I just heard Raman saying "ye sab ek galat faimi thi" or something.

@Sneha : If you can confirm, please let me know, because nothing was audible to me in those segments.

I don't know - I thought I read it in yday's segment threads but could be wrong...I just know he was trying to explain something was wrong to Kunal before getting pissy and someone brought up Ashok in a comment...lemme see if I can find it

Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r

OK Sneha. I respect your opinion.😊 .

BTW, was there a segment when Raman was selfish and said that Mihika's izzat was not important to him? Was there a segment where it is shown that Raman & family are aware of the complete truth, right from what happened in the hotel , till date? Was there a segment where Ishita & Co had concrete evidence against Kunal and despite showing that Raman did not believe in her? I'm not sure if Ashok's involvement is known to Ishita & Mihika themselves😕. Was there any segment confirming that? I have not seen any segments or OLVs for all these. If there are any such segments, then kind of agree to your view point. Otherwise, I would wait for the episode to air about what truth Raman knows and whether Raman said that Mihika's character and izzat are not important to him, when it comes to Pihu. Till then, I cannot take sides and say yes Ishita is fault, but Raman is at bigger fault. Just my opinion. No offence meant.

Priya - it was in the UMT update yesterday that Sneha provided where Ashok's name was dropped by Raman to try to convince Kunal that he is being played! 😃