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Posted: 8 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Rarukaru

di aapko uske character mein consistency dikhegi agar aap situations ko dhayan se dekhoge

Role swap mein raman sach batana chahta tha kyunki wo shant tha use dar nahi tha pihu ke dur jane ka use pata tha wo sab milkar pihu ko sambhal lenge issiliye wo chahta tha batana kyunki uska dil ye bolta tha
But ab pihu is away from him pihu doesn't want to see his face ab uske dil mein sirf aur sirf dar h pihu ko puri tarah khone ka pihu ko na dekh pane ka issiliye wo dimag se nahi dil se kaam le raha h

Now coming to second thing that day he accepted everything every mistake of his because he was calm that day use malum h that he was and he is wrong that's why he apologise
But today again he was afraid to loose pihu that's why again he didn't think twice and jo muh mein aaya bol diya apna dar gusse ke roop mein nikal diya but he knows that he is wrong

I don't know i m making sense or not But reality is jab bhi raman calm hota h sach bolta h But jab dara hua ya emotionally toota hota h to wo sab bolta h jo usne kabhi socha bhi nahi hota h for example preleap hospital scene

I m not defending him here
I m only saying that his over emotional behaviour is his biggest weakness
I m sorry if i hurt anyone here this is just my pov


Yes, I understand your point Kanika and loved reading your perspective about the inconsistencies. But my only concern is he cannot claim or disown Ishita as the mother of the kid based on his mood and fear. It can happen once or twice, out of impulsiveness, but not every time. That is very wrong, given the fact that she not even asked for a kid of her own & he was the one who was hell bent on "gifting" her one. I hope I have put across my thoughts clearly.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: gargpoo

Gud post gan..
Bt we will nvr get answers ..
Wen raman wanted to tell ishita denied
Now ishita wants to tell raman denying .
And reasons r same they both give
In role reversal track raman wanted to do everything to get her close to ishita ..
Even at a point even shagun Had no prblm if pihu gets to know the truth wen she discovered BC the brahmastra bt after that she too doesn't want her to know the truth..

So they write wat they want change everything as they want no consistensy at all and no explanation..!!



omg @bold - i totally forgot about this...they even had a promo 🤪 🤣
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Posted: 8 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r



Now unless they do something "legally" or "emotionally" to get back Pihu, Pihu is going to be with shagun for ever, as shagun has got the custody and she will keep manipulating Pihu. So if he keeps thinking it is not the right time and do nothing to atleast to get to the right time, then there is no way, she would get to know the truth. By being quite, with each passing day, they are only putting the kid to more and more risk, though they are not aware of the physical risk, courtesy the family bimbos, he knows about costly gifts, mobile phones, how carelessly shagun left pihu in a car and went to the designer, how Pihu bribed a PI and all. So personally, I feel this is high time, they decide to take a risk and let her know the truth & face the consequences, rather than sulking, blaming, fighting and feeling guilty about it. Because, these are clearly not going to help in the long run, if they need a permanent solution and think about the welfare of the kid. No offence.😊



Right time tab aayega jab Pihu IshRa ke paas hogi. ..so they should move legally. ...legally pihu ki custody IshRa ko mil gayi toh. ...sacch batana aasan hoga...ab jab pihu Shagun ke pass hai toh she can easily manipulate pihu by saying that ''Pihu ko mumma se dhoor karne keliye sab log tumse jhoot bol rahi hai. ...tum yeh sab math suno jo mein bol rahi hoon wahi sahi hai ''
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Also I would say I am not too surprised or pissed at Pihu. Except the tacky dialogues, her reaction to Ishita is valid. Her clinginess and stubborn attitude for shagun is obvious.Here is a pre-teen kid who is hella confused by her family's dynamics. To her , Ishita does represent a point or person who uprooted her safety home. And her reaction against Ishita is also valid AFTER the reveal. because to me it is redundant. It changes nothing infact it should piss the kid more. Agreed her dad, family thought her biological mom was dead , but the latter was alive, healthy ..she can be angry, pissed and sworn off at Raman but to leave that child? Why would that kid not be angry at her biological mother. So pardon me, but the reveal while is needed should and deffo is not the solution for Ishita-Pihu equation. The reason she is hanging on to Shagun is because that is safety for that kid, stubbornness for her normalcy..it would need lot of counselling and it is dangerous. How many kids not react well to their separated parents who show up once in their lives? it is normal reaction.

While I like the Adi. I also feel that whole Adi-Ishita bit was a plot trope. Ishita needed a good baby, toh Adi was given the space. How the heck this guy not worried about his sister after knowing what she is going through and can go through ?

Raman is catalyst for Ishita vs Shagun battle.Bas. That has been the show's crux since it's inception and it hasn't changed even now.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: -K.13-




omg @bold - i totally forgot about this...they even had a promo 🤪🤣

yup krishy I ws, thinking abt this n ye yaad aaya .. 😆
She ws sure she will get custody bcs she had BC so didn't care if pihu gets to know bt now even after getting custody she dosnt want her to know
Infect at a point ruhi ws so eager to tell her n stopped raman from telling thought v don't like her interfere still now she doesn't even think abt it..
All characters change as cvs want wen cvs want without any explanation.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r


Yes, I understand your point Kanika and loved reading your perspective about the inconsistencies. But my only concern is he cannot claim or disown Ishita as the mother of the kid based on his mood and fear. It can happen once or twice, out of impulsiveness, but not every time. That is very wrong, given the fact that she not even asked for a kid of her own & he was the one who was hell bent on "gifting" her one. I hope I have put across my thoughts clearly.

no di i m not saying raman is right
Yes he is wrong
But i m just saying why us he behaving like this

Di here many people say raman needs anger management classes
But di according to me use apne emotions handle karne nahi aate use apne emotions sahi se dikhane nahi aate wo apna dar apni frustration apna pyaar apni takleef sab kuch sirf gusse mein hi dikhata h
Sahi maayne mein use apne emotions dikhane nahi aate apne dil ki baat ko wo dhang se describe nahi kar pata
Ishita ke saath to phir bhi khul kar baat kar leta h aur kisi se to wo bhi nahi karta

Baki i agree he is wrong
Pihu has right to know the truth about her mother
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Posted: 8 years ago
#37
My two cents y raman blames ishita for losing ruhi.. Though he accepted his mistakes n apologized for everything 5/6 days back bt today again he blamed
First of all he himself ws very much responsible for the mess.. He had no plan to save both ruhi n pihu and asked ishita to go to nidhi with ruhi he will save both..
Ishita asked acp to help without telling Raman .. As, always even being an acp he too had not a proper plan to save ruhi pihu n catch a criminal nidhi..
So ruhi ka kidnap toh hona hi that bcs raman had no plans bt jo rash driving nidhi ne ki gusse me and accident hua wo police interference ki vajah se hua she wanted to escape from police .. Ruhi kidnap hoti bt uski death news nhi aati.. Ishita too ws not wrong thinking abt police help bt that made the situation worst and nidhi ruhi met with an accident .. May b that's y Raman blames ishita for losing ruhi
I m too confused y Raman blames ishita bt this is wat I interpreted bcs they show it again n again
I m not defending Rraman.. I m an ishra fan not raman or ishita fan bt this is, wat I understood may b I m wrong..
Honestly I think cvs shud drop this, ruhi topic now jo hona tha ho gaya again n again blaming hurting is not right bt who cares ... My pov.!!
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Posted: 8 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: gargpoo

My two cents y raman blames ishita for losing ruhi.. Though he accepted his mistakes n apologized for everything 5/6 days back bt today again he blamed
First of all he himself ws very much responsible for the mess.. He had no plan to save both ruhi n pihu and asked ishita to go to nidhi with ruhi he will save both..
Ishita asked acp to help without telling Raman .. As, always even being an acp he too had not a proper plan to save ruhi pihu n catch a criminal nidhi..
So ruhi ka kidnap toh hona hi that bcs raman had no plans bt jo rash driving nidhi ne ki gusse me and accident hua wo police interference ki vajah se hua she wanted to escape from police .. Ruhi kidnap hoti bt uski death news nhi aati.. Ishita too ws not wrong thinking abt police help bt that made the situation worst and nidhi ruhi met with an accident .. May b that's y Raman blames ishita for losing ruhi
I m too confused y Raman blames ishita bt this is wat I interpreted bcs they show it again n again
I m not defending Rraman.. I m an ishra fan not raman or ishita fan bt this is, wat I understood may b I m wrong..
Honestly I think cvs shud drop this, ruhi topic now jo hona tha ho gaya again n again blaming hurting is not right bt who cares ... My pov.!!

i agree with u
I also think he blames her for police interference
Kyunki uske karan hi nidhi ruhi ka accident hua
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Posted: 8 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: -Gan-

The surrogacy track was built on the premise of giving Ishita her own biological child... all the tracks since then has been totally anti that premise... a show about nature vs nurture has nothing about nature or nurture...


About this...don't you see it's still nature versus nurture?

See the nurture of a mother (good or bad) beats the nature - Adi and Ruhi still have Ishita's good values while Pihu has Shagun's values. The only time Raman's nature comes into the picture is when the kids go off the deep end - ie Ruhi hating Ishita most post-leap, Adi getting drunk post Aliya-Mihir, Pihu being stubborn now, etc.

It's about the differences still between nature and nurture...it's just nurture is always winning in YHM especially as seen with this Pihu bit...it's just utterly distasteful how they have gone about this and how pathetic they've made characters

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Edited by -K.13- - 8 years ago

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