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Thaslima

@PinkRose95

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Posted: 9 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: Water_Angel
Isnt it funny how Raman's every action is justified thousand times by others but when it comes to Ishita e.g sharing her feelings with shagun(cuz she considers her as a frnd, and its nothing wrong to think bout ur frnd) and realizing what will happen to shagun and that she shud do sth bout it...then she's termed 'jagat mata'. Not even once her POV is discussed that widely...but some are quick to call names. No offence but if u call yourself an ardent "IshRa" fan...u shud analyse both sides equally rather than giving importance to a character cuz apparently he's some people favs.
Thank god for hetvi's thread that I get to see some balanced reviews. Especially Maya's reviews are so unbiased. Otherwise really dont feel like coming to this forum anymore.
@Viji- When will u start giving reviews? I miss it yaar.😭

Why is Shagun staying in bhalla house? Coz of Raman... I think Shagun is Raman's ex more than Ishita 😆 So y Raman let her stay in his house? Coz he thought she has changed for good n even he allowed his daughter to call her as mamma (watever lame reason he may give) .. So we should call him as jagatpita for doing this? If Ishita is being called as jagatmata for talking to Shagun n saying that ruhi is their daughter.. infact that's true here.. Ruhi is Shagun's daughter aswell n none can deny that.. But v can't accept the same fact when Ishita said this openly..
But pihu, Shagun has no rights on her.. Yeah she is surrogate mother but that doesn't give her any rights on pihu.. but still she is claiming her rights on pihu...who gave her that rights? If Ishita saying that Ruhi is der daughter makes it look like Ishgun mohabbatein then Wat about the n number of Times Raman addressed her as asli maa.. So that can be called as Raman n Shagun's mohabbatein right? No offence to anyone... If v r ishra fan v can point out both the sides mistakes know

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Meher

@Water_Angel

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Posted: 9 years ago

#22

@pinkrose- The thing is, purely based on what I've come across this forum, if u point out Raman's mistakes then u will be termed as 'basher' and if u point out Ishita's mistakes then thats your 'opinion' or POV on her. This is what disturbs me. I've stopped commenting therefore, no point wasting your time in useless arguments, just Maya's reviews is what makes me visit this forum currently.

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Thaslima

@PinkRose95

Voyager

Posted: 9 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: Water_Angel
@pinkrose- The thing is, purely based on what I've come across this forum, if u point out Raman's mistakes then u will be termed as 'basher' and if u point out Ishita's mistakes then thats your 'opinion' or POV on her. This is what disturbs me. I've stopped commenting therefore, no point wasting your time in useless arguments, just Maya's reviews is what makes me visit this forum currently.

I don't get this Ishgun mohabbatein thing.. The whole surrogacy thing started with Raman being obsessed for a child n Shagun using that opportunity to fool ishra.. So the root cause for all this is Raman n later Ishita for accepting this surrogacy thing(that was sheer stupidity...).. But now if Ishita talk with Shagun who is living in the same house then it is termed as Ishgun mohabbatein whereas the one who allowed Shagun to boss around in bhalla house is right? So Wat name should v give to this Anoka pyaar 😕

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Meher

@Water_Angel

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Posted: 9 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: PinkRose95

I don't get this Ishgun mohabbatein thing.. The whole surrogacy thing started with Raman being obsessed for a child n Shagun using that opportunity to fool ishra.. So the root cause for all this is Raman n later Ishita for accepting this surrogacy thing(that was sheer stupidity...).. But now if Ishita talk with Shagun who is living in the same house then it is termed as Ishgun mohabbatein whereas the one who allowed Shagun to boss around in bhalla house is right? So Wat name should v give to this Anoka pyaar 😕

I beg to differ that Raman is the root cause for Shagun staying in bhalla house rather I believe it's the circumstances which led Shagun's entry in Bhalla house. Coming to that surrogacy part, Raman's intention wasn't bad behind it, according to him, he thought Ishita deserves this happiness of having her own baby(doesn't matter if it's from surrogacy). So here Raman is right in his part, though, in general, his decision to go ahead with surrogacy without Ishita's knowledge was wrong. Moreover making your ex the surrogate mother of your current wife is where he did a big blunder: doesn't matter is she has turned good, she's your ex for god sake...then again Ishita being the big-hearted, accepted the surrogacy(maybe bcuz Raman's intentions were pure). Just my POV.

Coming to IshGun "mohabbatein" as people say, it's bcuz of Niddhi and IshRa that people are witnessing this 'mohabbatein'. Niddhi cuz she was successful in her plan to get hold of Ruhi leading to IshRa separation. Separation cuz Raman, in his anger said some very disgraceful words(which was wrong)..causing Ishita to go away..but at least she shud have thought bout her new born baby if not anyone else..her not looking back was wrong. Therefore, making path for Shagun to show her goodness..and become mom to pihu. Though people wud have appreciated if Raman wud have brought up Pihu alone but ok he didn't want pihu to not feel the presence of a mother..so he brought his dearest ex in the picture. Now all this have result in IshGun mohabbatein as people say...but hey, is the show bout IshGun? Why shud we be bothered bout IshGun? This IshGun scene is being shown just to make IshRa closer in future epi. When Shagun's truth will be out but before that she wud've manipulated Ishita mentally...so later it's Ishita who will get the sympathy of people and support of Raman as Shagun will turn more dangerous. So people shud actually thank Shagun..or this IshGun mohabbatein..as IshRa will unite ultimately bcuz of her. Hope I made sense. 😆

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sunitas123

@sunitas123

Sparkler

Posted: 9 years ago

#25

Great reviews all. What worries me is that YHM is taking KKB route with the vamp all the time plotting to kill the FL. Since KKB has become no.1, YHM CVs thought why not take it a notch higher with Shagun and make her like the KKB vamp? And that has been going on ever since that show began!

Now that KP is going on a long leave, they cant focus on Ishra, sow they will need to focus on IshRu and the kids and Shagun. When KP gets back, they may get to know Shagun is the kidnapper and then Shagun in jail, so Anita can go on leave...

With Raman marriage decision itself seems far too casual and impulsive. Just to spite Ishita propose to Shagun , then justify it Pihu ke liye. Then Ruhi asks as a precondition to stay back, so he was willing to pay a price for Ruhi by marring ishita Ruhi ke liye. His earlier wedding to Ishita was also Ruhi ke liye though that was not really that impulsive...

No matter what the reason, he has to clear the Shagun and Pihu mess for ishita if he wants her back in his life. He knows Ishita wont want to live there so long as Shagun is reminding her every minute about her being an obstacle in her path.

Even yesterday Ishita said about loud that Shagun must surely not like what has happened with her coming back in their lives.

And yes 90% of the Forum only looks at Raman's POV since the CVs dont show that to us clearly and they more than make up for it by giving Raman the benefit of doubt almost always. Anyone who is with Raman they love him, now they will start loving Romi again, till the other day they hated Ishita for tying his hands, for the forced reconciliation. And in Raman's case it is the perception of his character that was in YHM 1.0, which is still making people believe in him, though frankly post-leap he has been projected as selfish and the main villan in Ishita's life!

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Mreddy

@Mreddy

Explorer

Posted: 9 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: Mdwst
@ Maya, @ Raji,@ madhavi
You guys are awesome...perfectly described Shagun and ishu.
Ishu needs confirmation from Raman, ishu wants Raman to voice it out...as to her ...she's unclear of her place with Raman.
The scene that touched me the most ...the ishru convo...in particular...Ishu sensing ruhis uncomfortableness ...tells her that she will send the chocolate shake with Neelu...

Thank you Viji. Where have you disappeared..I miss reading your reviews. This thread is the one I like a lot because of Maya and Raji and all the other different perspectives. Ishru was a scene I liked a lot yesterday. The hesitation to hug her was so heartbreaking. Ishita never forces her love on others but lets them know that they are loved and they find their way to her on their own. She is a magnet that way, all of the adults and kids alike love her because it is their choice and not because of blood ties unlike another delusional unwanted character..

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Seetha_R

@Seetha_R

Voyager

Posted: 9 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: Mdwst
@ Maya, @ Raji,@ madhavi
You guys are awesome...perfectly described Shagun and ishu.
Ishu needs confirmation from Raman, ishu wants Raman to voice it out...as to her ...she's unclear of her place with Raman.
The scene that touched me the most ...the ishru convo...in particular...Ishu sensing ruhis uncomfortableness ...tells her that she will send the chocolate shake with Neelu...

Thank you Viji.. the one thing that touched me was Ishita and Ruhi.. mother and daughter.. who are in pain wants to hug each other but the hesitation.. very heartbreaking.. fate really played cruelly with both of them.. they both suffered and lost immensely not because of their choice but someone's lack of judgement and impulsiveness..

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Mdwst

@Mdwst

Sparkler

Posted: 9 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: Mreddy

Thank you Viji. Where have you disappeared..I miss reading your reviews. This thread is the one I like a lot because of Maya and Raji and all the other different perspectives. Ishru was a scene I liked a lot yesterday. The hesitation to hug her was so heartbreaking. Ishita never forces her love on others but lets them know that they are loved and they find their way to her on their own. She is a magnet that way, all of the adults and kids alike love her because it is their choice and not because of blood ties unlike another delusional unwanted character..

You are most welcome. Well the truth is.. I was fed up .. Bashed.. Cyber bullied.. Quoted and referred as "Raman Basher".. Oh yeah... It seems people avoided this thread due to negativity .. So I stayed away..and coincidentally I was busy with personal life and travelling .. So I was not a regular here. Just got back but will be out again. Hopefully by August I will become a regular once again. But until then.. It's just comments only. I didn't know people are interested to read my reviews?!.. Good to know.. And I do miss the interaction. I'll be back 😆

Edited by Mdwst - 9 years ago

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Mdwst

@Mdwst

Sparkler

Posted: 9 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: ishrafan_us

Thank you Viji.. the one thing that touched me was Ishita and Ruhi.. mother and daughter.. who are in pain wants to hug each other but the hesitation.. very heartbreaking.. fate really played cruelly with both of them.. they both suffered and lost immensely not because of their choice but someone's lack of judgement and impulsiveness..

You are welcome Raji...
Yup .. That scene was heartbreaking ...the hesitation, mom asking daughters permission for a touch/ hug...Wow .. The nasty state of affairs... Hope they bond soon. DT was fab there.
I also want to see pihu/ ishu bond.. Let's c

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Thaslima

@PinkRose95

Voyager

Posted: 9 years ago

#30

@water_angel I agree Raman's intention was good... But that doesn't mean u'll make ur ex as surrogate mother.. It's a big no.. Later Ishita accepted that was the final blow... Even after Ishita convincing Raman that she is happy with adi and ruhi he went ahead with the surrogacy without her consent...thatsy I'm saying he is the root cause not coz his intentions were wrong, I never said that... This is my pov n I respect your pov aswell 😊
About Ishgun mohabbatein, it seems like mocking Ishita.. Even if it is Neelu in the place of Shagun she would have thought about her... That's how Ishita's character has been sketched.. As far as ishra r concerned, Shagun is SW for them now n Shagun is playing the victim card very well... so it's common that they would sympathize with her... Even senior bhallas felt bad for her... This is not going to b a sautan saga as Ishita clearly doesn't know Wat rights she holds on that family n Raman... We are just expecting Raman to take a stand n say I'm not a commodity that u both are fighting for, I have feelings n I'll decide wat I want in my life.. That's it... Like Ishita did when Mani tried to interfere...Is that too much to ask for

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