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Posted: 9 years ago
#11
hi maya..

i also felt ruhi's dialogs were inappropriate..
leave d age she is in..
no daughter or shud i say kid has a right to point fingers at d relationship status of parents..
d dialog of couch n bed ws totally absurd frm a child for parents..
UNACCEPTABLE..
evrythng else said regarding ishra fakeness ws right...

N...

regarding d dialog by raman...
v shud apologise b4 it gets late..
ds ws for raman too..
it ws 2-dimensional.. adi n raman both..
im leaving adi side..
bt raman..
its an indication of hw raman vl feel loosing ishita thru kidnap n may b icu.. he wud feel dat its too late nw n his ishita in danger.. icu or kidnap watevr...

Rest ur review ws flawless..

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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Maya- Terrific review. 👏👏
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Posted: 9 years ago
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RAMAN...

I ws so pissed wid him whn nidhi ws throwing insults at ishtia regarding her place in raman's life..n he didnt spoke to stop her..
nidhi is unstoppable bt he shud hv suported ishita in dat..

I ws lyk raman ko fir gunga aur behra bana diya...

BUT whn i saw adi-raman scene..
he said dat he wants to mend evrythng b4 its too late..
hum uss apr gussa karte hai jisse sabse zyaada pyra karte hia..
ds line reversed my anger on raman..

NW.. if u c...
seems raman wud say sorry to ishita..
in a way u think dn wat ws d need to actualy jst defend ishtia in front of evryone.. usse ishra relation apr koi farka nhi padega..
he needs to make al well between him n ishtia in private..
he shud apologise her n make her feel wanted back in his life.
he shud gv ishita d palce she stil holds in his heart in his life too..
n ds deed shud b in a place whr only dese 2 r dere..
such a scene will brng out real emotions of both ishra in private wid more intensity...

So.. im kinda ok wid raman didnt stud up bt ROMI ws dere for HIS BHABHI or ISHITA AKA...😆

as raman said in precap...
ek taraf tu keh raha hai meri shaadi teri biwi ki behn se ho rahi hai toh bala kam tha jo tuje bhi jhelna padega.. aur dusri taraf tu ab bhi ishita ko bhabhi bulata hia.. iska matlab kya hua..
I loved d precap... n raman's way of indirectly acknowledging romi as bhai...👏

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: mayasundar

Hi Everyone,

Sorry I was busy yesterday so did not watch the episode. I just saw it today and was totally disappointed with it. This one is not going to be like my regular review this I wrote it a bit a different.

KP raised his voice against doing a rain scene because of draught and his gagging scene. If he can change those scenes for which I was happy because he was a socially responsible person then why did he not raise his voice against physical abuse? Not any saying anything against the strangulation part which is the highest point of domestic violence left me very disappointed in him.

I never should expect anything good from the CV but I did not think they would stoop so low showing Raman strangulating her because he loves her to the core and only vents out his anger on her is damn stupid. She instead of walking away once he leaves strangulating her but stays and consoles him was even more stupid. What the hell are they trying to say that men can do anything because they love the woman and woman should accept physical and verbal abuse because they should be grateful because men love them?

They have killed the legal system to the core. Ruhi admitted in open court that she was exchanged for Pihu. Let's agree with CV stupid logic that Ruhi was not kidnapped but was exchanged that is why the court could not punish Nidhi what about Pihu she did not have any connection to Pihu so how come she is not held responsible for kidnapping Pihu and on top of it her fingerprints are in the police system for escaping prison even though she changed her name and nationality she cannot change her fingerprint when people outside India see shows like these it give a poor light to Indian legal system as well as the efficiency of the Indian police to catch criminals. I understand this is drama but should there be at least little logic in it.

Ruhi - This girl lacks the brains staying in Nidhi capacity. I understand she has trust issues she has gone through a lot but putting herself back in a condition where she is verbally and physically abused is damn stupid. She very well could tell the judge that she is not interested in staying with the family but would not go back to Nidhi as well then court could decide what they want to do.

Raman - I am extremely disappointed him yesterday because he was selfish to the core he still has not realized his part he played in the exchange game and for Ishita being away from him. He is still blaming Ishita for Ruhi being away from him. His breakdown lost it charm because it was just for him and how will he live without anyone he was not even worried for how Ruhi will surive with Nidhi after she goes from his house.

Ishita - She needs to develop a spine and voice out against abuse both physical and mental. They should stop showing this crap in the name of woman empowerment that a woman takes every abuse because she loves her husband and kids. She should have voiced out when Raman was physical with her and she should not be thinking in terms of harming herself to stop her kid from going away just to save one person she is punishing numerous person

Adi - He is the one who is totally broken. My heart went for that scene with Mihir. Adi was the only saving grace in the episode.

This is a how I felt watching yesterday episode feel free to add your take to it.

Coming to today episode

It was a mixed episode for me so I think it will be up to each person perspective whether they will like the episode or not.

The episode start with Ashok and Nidhi planning to take Ruhi for dinner and to rub salt on the Bhalla wound. Nidhi plans to use the hunter once again on Ruhi to bring her in line along with the dinner. Ashok stops her saying you can use it later not now because you will put the case in jeopardy Nidhi agrees to it.

IshRa are coming back from Ishita parents' house. Nidhi taunts Ishita saying that what happened to your mother's love Ruhi is leaving now. Ishita doesn't say anything but goes to Ruhi and begs at her feet (This is very disgusting on so many levels.

1. According to Hindu custom if a child makes their parents fall at their feet it is a very big sin for the child and it takes eons to wash out the sin for the child so no matter what happens no one would let a parent fall at the child feet even the parents won't do it because they are adding burden to the child so just for drama sake the killed a religious belief

2. Not one people who were standing did not come to lift her up it is again disgusting to see that they would happily sacrifice her if it meets their goal. I was expecting Adi at least to rush to her and make her stand up.)

Asking her to stay and tells her that they did everything what she wanted why she is still wants to go to Nidhi. Ruhi stays please stop this why are you forcing her to stay with all the fakeness going around. Romi doesn't want to stay. Papa was getting married to Shagun mama and says turn of this fake drama and if you and papa loved each other truly you would not have separated and he would not have said yes to marry Shagun mama so please stop this drama and then she went on to stay that how they are staying in the room one in bed and the other one in couch(CV should watch what dialogue they are giving to a 14 years old according to her if there is sex only then the marriage is valid otherwise the marriage is null and void) Ruhi dialogue and actions are not age appropriate instead of feeling for Ruhi as a victim the general viewers anger only grows for Ruhi because of bad writing.

Ruhi says enough of all this faking because it is all a game for you like you told Pihu. I don't want to part of this game anymore. Raman comes and says it is not like Ruhi . Ruhi says okay then prove to me that you guys are not faking it and get married then I will stay with you everyone is shocked hearing this condition. Ruhi taunts them saying what you cannot do it I know you cannot tolerate each other so stop doing this drama

Raman says yes we will get married. Ruhi is shocked and asks what; Raman says if that is the price I have to pay for keeping my kid then I'm ready to get married to Ishita (I am so angry with Raman for this what is Ishita a commodity for him without any feelings) I would have been happy if he said that he is ready to get married to her and leave it at that instead of making it into a sacrifice he is doing it for his kid.

Ishita, Nidhi and Ashok are shocked. Everyone seems to be happy Shagun leaves from there.

Nidhi comes out of the shock and shouts at Ruhi saying what stupid condition you have put you don't know they don't always fulfill their promise they just want to keep you here and fool you.

Ishita stops her saying did you not hear what my husband said we are getting married in two days pack your bags and go to Australia. This is what a mom does she would do anything for her kids and if this what Ruhi wants we will do it

Adi stops Nidhi and takes Ruhi forcefully inside Ruhi is still in shock.

Nidhi again taunts Ishita saying we all know how your relationship is with Raman. Ishita says to her it doesn't matter what her relationship with Raman is but what her relationship with Ruhi is only matters (The hidden meaning her is this time around Ishita is getting married to Raman just to make Ruhi stay out of hell hole only so she will be guarding her heart against Raman and Ruhi it is going to be tough time for both of them to break her wall)

Nidhi tries to slap her but Romi comes between and says to Ashok take her away otherwise I will forget that we are in a partnership. (I loved the way Romi stands up for his bhabi except for the family MU track which never got a proper closure I loved their bond)

Ashok takes Nidhi forcefully Nidhi was screeching like anything that she doesn't want to lose the money making machine. Mihika comes and taunts her. Nidhi tries to hit her but Ashok holds her and takes her away.

Ishita asks did you know what you said outside he says to her yes I know if that is the only way for Ruhi to stay then I will marry you. Ishita asks what about Shagun don't you have to talk to her then Shagun comes there what is there to talk Ishita says to her this is not what I wanted I did not come to take your place which in a way is correct because for Raman he took the phereas with Shagun Ishita stopped being his wife so Ishita was feeling guilty for taking someone else place. Shagun says if that is what is needed for Ruhi to stay then that is what we have to do and says she was insecure but Adi made her understand it. She says she will leave as usual Ishita not wanting to upset Pihu asked Shagun to stay (My guess would be this whiter than white Shagun is going to continue because many times we wanted her to turn negative but each time she surpassed her level of whiteness to reach new whiteness so I find this is a game for CV let's make the audience think that Shagun will turn negative but instead we will give them a bigger BKT by making her more whiter) I did want Raman to say something to Shagun because he was the sole reason for this mess but he stood like a mute spectator as if he had nothing to do with the situation. Shagun said you two are getting married that is final and left. Raman had a big sigh (I think he was glad to come out of this problem) then with a bit of hesitancy touched Ishita she turned and looked at him confused.

Nidhi was shouting I cannot hear half of the dialogue but looks like she wanted to Kidnap Ruhi and Ashok said he would help but his name should not come out Nidhi agreed.

Toshji/Mihika thanks Shagun. Shagun leaves from there crying.

Adi/Raman - They hug each other Adi is happy that his parents are getting married and says to him I know you are not getting married just for Ruhi I know what importance Ishima has in your life. He says yes Adi you are right. I had a full of negativity which was spoiling the relation today I threw all the negativity out and I feel happy. He says to him remember one thing that you are upset and angry with the person whom you love the most (I am okay with this getting angry with the person you love the most but I also want him to make up for all the abusive words he used for Ishita instead of scrapping everything under the rug as if nothing happened) He says to him that you should ask sorry to the people you hurt otherwise they will go away from you then it hurts you a lot (This dialogue I feel is not for Raman realization but for Adi to apologize to Aliya for shouting at her)

Precap: Ruhi and Ishita are looking the same. Raman/Romi convo was good.

P.S . If you have come this far I am really thankful to you for patiently reading all my thoughts.


An amazing review.

I read this thread often and look forward to reading everyone's review, particularly yours.

I, like you, was totally disgusted by the strangulation scene, it was not necessary to have this in the scene to show Raman's pain. I agree with you and also believe KP should have taken a stand.
Edited by Boo2014 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunitas123

@Maya I am also pissed off with Raman for all the abuses and now nearly strangling Ishita. So much of protest for tieing Raman's hands but hardly any for this? He just takes Ishita for granted. He again blamed Ishita for Ruhi's condition and it is as if she should be grateful to him for tolerating her. Also, it is always about him and his ego- he will be alone. What about what his daughter will be facing? i said this yesterday too...

Anyways hope this kidnapping will make him value Ishita more, I want him to respect her, no more abuse and manhandling and no more blaming! Yes I want Raman to change, if not then he truly does not deserve ishita...

The way Ishita begged and pleaded to Ruhi, I guess it was a solo shot, hence they could not show anyone rushing to stop her. It was a challenge to even show Romi stop hitting her... No one feels about what Ruhi will have to go through, except Ishita.

Maya, I just hope Ishita does not pander to their whims easily, but the problem is she is so guilty and will do anything to make it up to others. But will Raman ever realize what all he did wrong? Dont think so. We may again have the same track ending- Raman generally saying sorry, dunno for exactly what, then promising never to hurt her again and in 3 days back to blaming her...

And for the Shagun fiasco, it is easy to say why Ishita was talking to Shagun like that? In fact Raman should have done it. Just coz he expressed his pain, Ishita should jump and marry him - Ruhi ke liye...😕

I loved Adi Raman scene. Though I want to see how much Raman feels sorry for what all he has done to Ishita and let us see how he makes up for it...


Hi Sunita,

Yeah I did see numerous post wanting to stop his gagging but hardly few which mentioned the strangling part that makes me more worried about the mentality of the people that how quickly they accept the fact if it is done to a woman it is okay and if it is done to man it is not okay and hence so much protest.

The post leap Raman goes down day by day for me when I think he has reached the low level now he has to only climb back up he drags himself down more. The moment he started attacking her physically as well as emotionally making her at fault for Ruhi leaving the connect for me with the scene was gone and on top of it the breakdown was only for him not for Ruhi also. Today too I am so pissed off with his statement that if it is price he has to pay to make Ruhi stay then he will marry her as if Ishita is a commodity that he has to accept in his life for Ruhi to stay with him

I'm damn mad at him today first his attitude towards marrying Ishita then with Shagun it was his mess to clear with Shagun but not one word from him to Shagun(Whatever said and done about Shagun that she is negative I wanted him to say sorry to her because he did lead her on saying that she would be his wife taking almost half the pheras so at least I expected a sorry from him to Shagun as a true gentleman) instead he just stood as a mute spectator which irritated me to the core(people will go bashing IshGun mohabbatein now but for me this was his mess he needed to clear not Ishita neither Shagun)

Ishita as a woman to irritates me to the core because she is not standing up for herself. The 11PM wala Ishita had stood up against wrong even when sacrificing this one just shown as doormat. Why does she not stand up for herself when people are questioning about her character and relationship.

I still have my doubts about Raman feeling sorry for Ishita but lets wait and watch.

Sunita I understand that DT shot those scene separately but they could have shown anyone of the BD just lifting her up with a back shot that is what I was looking for in that scene not stopping her or saying something to her.





Edited by mayasundar - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Agree with you Maya.
Strangulation in name of love...really? It was domestic violence. Period. And Ishita not protesting it was even more horrible. I understand CVs are doing it for money and these shows are no charity work, that does not mean they should not be socially, morally responsible for what they are showing.

In today's episode, Raman said if marrying Ishita is the cost he has to pay for getting Ruhi back, he is ready to pay the cost...Really CVs..this is how you word the lines...when are these words generally used..."cost of something"...the entire dialog sounded as if marrying Ishita is a big punishment...and he is putting himself through this punishment to get his daughter back. This in my opinion was completely botched up writing.
Raman agreeing to marry Ishita..and Ishu too agreeing...again for wrong reasons.

Ishu falling at Ruhi's feet...the CVs are showing cheap drama. Period.

Ruhi's lines actually made sense.

last, CVs are showing that the male lead has no integrity at all. So what happens if tomorrow Nidhi kidnaps Pihu and Pihu asks Raman to marry shagun...will he drop Ishita and ruhi and run to take pheras with Shagun?
In all, horrendous writing and message by CVs.


Hi Rose,

I agree to everything what you said about strangulation and today episode

Regarding your question about Pihu

The preleap Raman would not have done it but the post leap Raman would definitely do it as he is doing so many things which I never even thought that Raman would do.



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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: swatica

hi maya..


i also felt ruhi's dialogs were inappropriate..
leave d age she is in..
no daughter or shud i say kid has a right to point fingers at d relationship status of parents..
d dialog of couch n bed ws totally absurd frm a child for parents..
UNACCEPTABLE..
evrythng else said regarding ishra fakeness ws right...

N...

regarding d dialog by raman...
v shud apologise b4 it gets late..
ds ws for raman too..
it ws 2-dimensional.. adi n raman both..
im leaving adi side..
bt raman..
its an indication of hw raman vl feel loosing ishita thru kidnap n may b icu.. he wud feel dat its too late nw n his ishita in danger.. icu or kidnap watevr...

Rest ur review ws flawless..


Hi Swati,

Ruhi raised some valid questions today but everything was lost when she questioned her parents sleeping arrangements in front of the family and outsiders

Regarding Raman apologizing to Ishita it would be good if it happens as you said but I will keep my expectation low regarding that because everyday when I think Raman is going to climb back up they pull him down more today too I'm pissed off his dialogue in which they showed him agreeing to marry Ishita as if she was a commodity without any feelings.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Water_Angel

@Maya- Terrific review. 👏👏


Thanks Mehar
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Boo2014


An amazing review.

I read this thread often and look forward to reading everyone's review, particularly yours.

I, like you, was totally disgusted by the strangulation scene, it was not necessary to have this in the scene to show Raman's pain. I agree with you and also believe KP should have taken a stand.


Hi Boo,

I generally don't follow any actor/actress but when I came to know that KP stood up for those scene I thought he is a socially responsible person but when nothing for this came up I felt tad disappointed in him

The scene in itself was unnecessary they could have shown his breakdown without that because of this scene whole of KP acting went to waste because I could not connect with the scene at all.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: mayasundar


Hi Boo,

I generally don't follow any actor/actress but when I came to know that KP stood up for those scene I thought he is a socially responsible person but when nothing for this came up I felt tad disappointed in him

The scene in itself was unnecessary they could have shown his breakdown without that because of this scene whole of KP acting went to waste because I could not connect with the scene at all.



To be honest and fair, even DT could and should have spoken out.

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