11.7.2016 ep - Page 3

Originally posted by: Boo2014

To be honest and fair, even DT could and should have spoken out.

Originally posted by: ishrafan_us

Todays's epi - very disppointing in so many levels.. Right now i am not even sure who is the main focus for CVS.. other than whatever brings them TRPs so story seems to be the focus..

so many things stood out as well set the ground for future as well..

i will go with the players who tried to play a role in today's epi..

Ashok - i have to give it to him.. what or who ever causes Raman pain he gets attracted to him as his life is depending on troubling Raman.. if not Shagun, then Mihika, then Romi, now Ruhi through Nidhi.. and everytime he is successful in derailing Raman's life.

Nidhi - the actual bulldozer in Raman's life that destroyed everything for him.. so, CVS carefully carved this character to destroy the beautiful love story they built in 2 years.. actually it's not Shagun but Nidhi who successfully separated Raman and Ishita by snatching what was binding them.. again behind the beautiful relationship it got reduced to sirf ruhi ke liye hence the separation and sirf ruhi ke liye the re marriage..

Shagun - really not sure how to even understand the goal of this character morphing by CVS..they buthered Raman and Ishita to the point of unrecognizable to make this character good and helpful.. so she ended up becoming a surrogate mother for Raman and Ishita's baby..but then events made her end up in Bhallas house. though what events made her leave her then boyfriend who was ready to marry her despite her past. then either she should have given a clear position as Raman wife or Pihu's caretaker/nanny.. as she is not actual mother. so CVS couldn't do that due to the fear of falling TRPs.. what is the point of degrading that woman by faking her relation with Raman as his wife for a small child sake.. as long as she is loved why fake a relationship. especially when the kid is loved by the entire family including her father, where as Ruhi also suffered to no end without both mother and father's love as a child. not clear on the justification here.

Next thing Shagun marriage talks in the Bhallas house where she mistook it as Raman trying to give her a second chance.. but it ended up that Raman has no intention of marrying her but wanted her to settle down with someone else.. here i totally fail to understand Raman again.. so he knows that he and shagun are clearly playing as husband and wife for Pihu ke liye then how he was planning to tell the child that your mamma is going to marry someone else?

then Raman in his rage he proposed to shagun by burning Ishita's pictures and sarees and asked her to marry him.. she didn't ask but he did.. yes, shagun knows Raman is doing this in rage but.. but she is not ready to let go of an opportunity that presented by Raman.

then the hospital scene - Raman denied Ishita her rights on Pihu by declaring Shagun as asli ma.. but here again CVS should have kept shagun not as a schemer.. but they had to do it.. why.. they took so much pain in writing script in ways to butcher both Raman and Ishita and they could have atleast shown as possessive which would've been fine but no she has to be shown as a schemer..

then the marriage scene - Raman knows that he clearly doesn't love shagun and he wanted to hurt Ishita but isn't it unfair to Shagun to be dragged into a loveless marriage to satisfy his ego? so the marriage then he finished his commitment of pheres and when it's her turn marriage got interrupted..

Ruhi is found alive, her rejection and to bring her back new drama with Ishita started. Ishita clearly knows at this point she has no place in his life and he is committed to Shagun and hence answerable to Pihu in a way not to break the little girl's heart.. so she also wanted to play along.. shagun was shown insecure.. which is natural.. but then in one scene with Pihu she showed her fangs.. why fake love?

now coming back to today scene.. i am again not understanding Raman at all.. so in yesterday he told Ishita that she is not going anywhere and so is Ruhi.. Now came back into the house listened to all the crap nidhii was throwing at Ishita.. not a word out of his mouth.. Ishita begging Ruhi... again shouldn't be that way but the points Ruhi asked are valid and as usual Raman has no answers.. Ruhi questioning their relation - yuck to the core.. but again setting the stage to let the whole world including Shagun to taunt Ishita that she and Raman didn't have a good relationship.

now Raman accepting to marry Ishita as a price to pay - like punishment - please whom is he doing a favor? yes he needs Ruhi for that he is ready to do anything.. i don't call this love at all.. and when Nidhi questioned Ishita about her place in Raman life, Ishita closing her eyes tells the painful position she is in.. her answer is clear for in terms of telling everyone that she clearly knows what her daughter means to her.. it didn't say what she is to Raman or Ruhi.. for her what Ruhi means to her.. so she agrees to the demand.otherwise she will loose Ruhi to that monster.

back in the room.. when questioned about him saying yes to Ruhi demand he clearly said for Ruhi he is ready to marry her and asked about Shagun Raman didn't have an answer... shouldn't he be first telling shagun he is really sorry and he did so wrong in leading her on to the mandap and left her in the middle.. and clarify that he is wrong to even propose to her.. instead of Shagun telling that she was wrong in wishing and telling that Raman will never be happy with her and she didn't want to be in a loveless marriage... again here she knew this when Raman proposed yet she went along then she forgive Raman for ditching her at the altar.. why??

also when shagun mentioned that she will take Pihu and go away i saw fear in Ishita's face.. she clearly didn't want to loose Pihu either.. and here shagun played smartly.. she wants Pihu.. period.. and Ishita again didn't claim pihu is hers but clearly said she didn't want Pihu's mamma going anywhere but stay in the house..

Why is Raman thinking that it is ok to play with Nidhi for Ishita ke liye and play with Shagun for Pihu ke liye and play with Ishita for Ruhi ke liye? where is the actual RKB who is sensitive enough to not to hurt women.. or realize that he made a mistake and try to correct it..

his and Adi talk - is it for us to believe that Raman wants to marry Ishita for themselves and not for Ruhi ke liye - if that is the case why also he didn't clarify to Ishita how wrong he was in thinking that she didn't love him or he didn't love her but this marriage is not just for Ruhi but for them too..

Raman may be thinking of asking for sorry - but i am not clear for what?? happy to hear that he wants to make amends with Ishita.. but he has no clue to the damage he has caused to her.. sorry without realization is no sorry at all..

Maya, very well written.. agreed to all the bold points:

cheap dialogs to 14 years old -

>>>>(CV should watch what dialogue they are giving to a 14 years old according to her if there is sex only then the marriage is valid otherwise the marriage is null and void)

That's Raman for us -

>>>>Raman says if that is the price I have to pay for keeping my kid then I'm ready to get married to Ishita (I am so angry with Raman for this what is Ishita a commodity for him without any feelings) I would have been happy if he said that he is ready to get married to her and leave it at that instead of making it into a sacrifice he is doing it for his kid

highlight of the epi (sirf Ruhi ke liye from Ishita) -

>>>>Ishita says to her it doesn't matter what her relationship with Raman is but what her relationship with Ruhi is only matters (The hidden meaning her is this time around Ishita is getting married to Raman just to make Ruhi stay out of hell hole only so she will be guarding her heart against Raman and Ruhi it is going to be tough time for both of them to break her wall)

Ishita didn't want to loose Pihu and also she saw the bond between her two daughters.. but I must say Shagun played well

>>>>- She says she will leave as usual Ishita not wanting to upset Pihu asked Shagun to stay (My guess would be this whiter than white Shagun is going to continue because many times we wanted her to turn negative but each time she surpassed her level of whiteness to reach new whiteness so I find this is a game for CV let's make the audience think that Shagun will turn negative but instead we will give them a bigger BKT by making her more whiter)

two birds with one shot - as some viewers are unable to connect with Raman facial expression this is needed to show from his side this marriage is for themselves.. as he is clear that Ishita is not marrying Mani.. how convenient and when did he realize that.. also setting a future track for Adi as well -

>>>> He says to him remember one thing that you are upset and angry with the person whom you love the most (I am okay with this getting angry with the person you love the most but I also want him to make up for all the abusive words he used for Ishita instead of scrapping everything under the rug as if nothing happened) He says to him that you should ask sorry to the people you hurt otherwise they will go away from you then it hurts you a lot (This dialogue I feel is not for Raman realization but for Adi to apologize to Aliya for shouting at her)

overall i am very disappointed with epi.. no bashing..

Maya, you asked about disclaimers - unfortunately end of the day i don't want my day to get ruined by hate mails because i expressed my views.. so i am putting a disclaimer that no one has to agree with my POV and as this is public forum and i am just expressing what i perceived..

Originally posted by: sunitas123

Hi Maya and Raji,

Agree totally.

I dont dispute the fact that Raman loves Ishita but I do not like the way he shows it- be it abuse, strangling, giving her a reality check when she smiles for a second, then allowing her to get humiliated in every way in public and private and by anyone and everyone - he led the show...He is just selfish, since he wants a punching bag whom he can romance when nothing is wrong with his kids. He is always in mute mode when it comes to Shagun (hiding behind Ishita and not clearing the mess regarding his incomplete wedding) or protecting Ishita's dignity. But since he loves Ishita the most, he removes all his frustrations, abuses, etc only on her. How I was praying for Raman to go mute and have a bad throat when he was constantly shouting at Ishita for days on end? He just comes across as a coward and a spineless man right now.

So if he was shouting all these days due to Mani, why did he atleast not ask Ishita about Mani? Which means he had clearly heard Ishita deny it, so that was not the reason to marry Shagun.

Even now he cant see Ishita's pain and Ruhi's pain. Still all r waiting for Ishita to say sorry. I thought she already did and more than made amends for it ever since.

What I cant see is Raman's respect for Ishita, love without respect has no meaning.😕 I hope he does repent for his actions and words.And mainly be a man and own up to all the mistakes which were mainly due to him that drove Ishita to suicide and the crazy child swap idea which was again his... so what does Ishita now need to say sorry to him for again, being alive?

From Ishita's side, i too loved her answer, after Raman wanting to treat her like a commodity and marry her for Ruhi. Ishita said she would even walk on coal for Ruhi, so marrying Raman is just as dangerous or may be marginally safer...

Raman has a long way to go for his redemption. Hope Cvs just cut it short with one sorry and then comedy...😕