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Posted: 9 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: bscorp13


Aah.. that has been my wish since sauten sagas...it's never going to happen mate..he won't even come close to n dying or death..he is doomed to be tortured alive🤢..death will give him dignity .. they cant afford that na..
Its raman representing all ills and ishita representing the savior ..it's been that way for b a while except for some months .. and we were wrong when we thought it was the v story of 2 broken souls...it most certainly isn't of the ML..🥱..
Every character on tjhe b show will have POVs and justifications and redemption s..but nada..none for the ML..heck..how do b you think they plan to run the b show for 500 more epis..🥱


See honestly, this isn't about Ishita for me. And neither about Ishita versus Raman.. I've liked both these characters for the qualities in them that I can relate to. But this general damage done to the Male Lead to take a story forward because they feel that the TRP audience doesn't care of the balance is way too cliched and regressive for me. Raman gets no point of view, no monologue, no scene to express his feelings, never shown in the right, and always needs someone to show him sense... and that's derogatory to show for a character whose been shown better than this, whose been shown striking qualities before. Then why not now?

Between IshRa, right now Raman has erred and if he is shown to do a thousand such things to seek apology I will watch and I will also not think its unfair.. But how does Romi also get to redeem himself but nothing positive gets shown for the man whose apparently the lead of this show.

My annoyance is in general with the routine way of showing men in their stories...I can't relate to it.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#32


Feels.. Can I get the link pls?
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Posted: 9 years ago
#33


Originally posted by: gargpoo

word..
Totally agree with last line..
Wen raman ws in hijacked plane ...romi didnt even flinched didnt try to find out his bro is alive or dead n the same btother ws saving a stranger n getting hurt..thats the difference..


Point poonam. .he didn't even flinch hearing his bro might be dead..heck he was planning to mix stuff in his brothers drink in that juice launch party..along with ashok.. to humiliate him. .
And b this kind of a guy is now a badaa dil waala..wgatv do binsay..ishita saw romi plotting with ashok.. ishita hasn't asked him a word about b it. .she was so anxious to lecture raman about b ignoring shagun though. .cvs and their priorities. .now everyone except raman us v great. .can we have nidhi and v ashok becoming white next?

And yeah..i can bet romi will be in trouble soon..guess who will rescue him🥱..
Btw what was romi screaming about raman n bringing nidhi into their lives..had it not been for sarika and rohit...none of b these things would b have happened. ..
Raman and ishita tryingb to get Romi to accept his own son ..led to the full drama..this is va m as n who refused to take responsibility of b his own infant son. .now he is b tjhe bigger man , apparently doing b things 'ruhi ke liye'...yucks🤢
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Posted: 9 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r


Anku, IMO, the sad truth is that the perspective of CV's and some viewers are different for a ML. There is no ML as such in the show. It is only about two female leads, one main, the other parallel, but given the importance of a main, with contrasting personalities yet share the same pati. You need a male here for the pati role, but his role in the show is restricted to romancing the main female lead and shouting at others. He is really unwanted. But if you just kill him, then they have to show the FL getting involved with yet another male in the show, because she has every right to be happy in the life and her life is not dependent on her pati. But if that is shown, the TRP's would suffer a big blow as the TRP Indian audience and some modern audience cannot accept.

So there is a male lead in the show for namesake. But he is not the lead, rather an antagonist in the name of a protogonist. PERIOD.

Cheers
Priya


Makes so much sense... and no matter what I say now or complain or rant. I'll ultimately have to accept this right? 😆 Thanks for getting me back to reality. I wonder why I even let this all get ti me when I understand how our TV show's work.

But it's kind of sad you know that in a progressive world our tv content is only getting regressive. Although these stories claim to show woman empowerment they never show a woman doing just fine without a husband and without child...Her identity has to be related to them.

Then again, where we strive for equality...they again bring in an extreme imbalance in showing justified emotions for both the leads. In a normal, decent and progressive world men and women both are equally necessary for a household to work well. BUT ALAS
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Posted: 9 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: -Anku-


See honestly, this isn't about Ishita for me. And neither about Ishita versus Raman.. I've liked both these characters for the qualities in them that I can relate to. But this general damage done to the Male Lead to take a story forward because they feel that the TRP audience doesn't care of the balance is way too cliched and regressive for me. Raman gets no point of view, no monologue, no scene to express his feelings, never shown in the right, and always needs someone to show him sense... and that's derogatory to show for a character whose been shown better than this, whose been shown striking qualities before. Then why not now?

Between IshRa, right now Raman has erred and if he is shown to do a thousand such things to seek apology I will watch and I will also not think its unfair.. But how does Romi also get to redeem himself but nothing positive gets shown for the man whose apparently the lead of this show.

My annoyance is in general with the routine way of showing men in their stories...I can't relate to it.

That's what I mean too..
I don't want to b see an unbalanced couple on screen as a viewer. .it perplexes me..why one lead never gets a chance to say what's on his mind ..while the other while getting a lot of povs..still comes across as cardboardish...
In this track both erred..but we have not seen anything relatedv to b that ..because cvs do not wish to show tjhe pov of one half..i would love to b see Raman apologizing. , having the talk with ishuta.. and she apolarizing and b opening her heart too...but is that even possible if only one pov is shown and v that too in a skewed manner?
Raman's pov has not been shown for a very long time now. .we got a teeny weeny bit in tjhe chaddha track..but that's that..is that the case with most MLs? I dunno
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Posted: 9 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r


Anku, IMO, the sad truth is that the perspective of CV's and some viewers are different for a ML. There is no ML as such in the show. It is only about two female leads, one main, the other parallel, but given the importance of a main, with contrasting personalities yet share the same pati. You need a male here for the pati role, but his role in the show is restricted to romancing the main female lead and shouting at others. He is really unwanted. But if you just kill him, then they have to show the FL getting involved with yet another male in the show, because she has every right to be happy in the life and her life is not dependent on her pati. But if that is shown, the TRP's would suffer a big blow as the TRP Indian audience and some modern audience cannot accept.

So there is a male lead in the show for namesake. But he is not the lead, rather an antagonist in the name of a protogonist. PERIOD.

Cheers
Priya


@bold..that explains it all doesn't it..
No antagonist can rouse emotions the way a antagonist in a protagonists garb can...heck it isn't surprising then that Google throws up 'why did raman kill ishita' as one of its top searches 😆..I rest my case😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: snehaseshan

Raman ishita going for date in ishita's old red car..

ye khatara raman ne abhi tk sambal kar rakhi hei 😆 ishita ki yaad mein 😉
Anyways shagun jaale gi ishra jabh nai ponchegye 😆
And i luv sadastic pleasure 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
#38
Thanks
I will happily take any such lollipop scenes related to Ishra
Babies look adorable 😳 and jalne wale to khoob jalenge 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
#39
this may just be a comment to make myself and my friends on the forum feel better.😆

raman's reluctance to apologise doesn't make sense to me on its own. and it got me thinking, raising my expectations too high. let me explain. the fact the cvs say this is an important part of the story got my brain to think certain things. again, I'm probably wrong, this is just making me feel better.

so disclaimer: im 98.9% just being an idiotic hopeful fool BUT part of me doesn't understand remans reluctance unless i rationalise it in the following way:


Romi messed up big time. if he hadn't made that blunder that night, both raman and ishita's daughters would be safe and sound. ishita would be with him. his dream of seeing ishita playing with their child would have come true.

ishita would never had left, because ruhi would still be alive.

so perhaps they are playing this comedy to delay Raman coming to actually say these things?
yes,raman loves his brother. but at the same time, with raman still being in denial about his part in pushing ishita away, romi is someone he majorly blames for the fact ishita left, and rudi too?

writing this made me feel better. i think cvs are playing their cards like this so that the disruption in july can be passed to then move things along.
in any case writing this made me feel better, because the cvs brand of comedy is beyond me. even if this is not depicted on the show, this is how i choose to rationalise it. but when raman does finally have his breakdown, if he does, ill rationalise this into it😆


Edited by Zoyamalik2005 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Zoyamalik2005

this may just be a comment to make myself and my friends on the forum feel better.😆

raman's reluctance to apologise doesn't make sense to me on its own. and it got me thinking, raising my expectations too high. let me explain. the fact the cvs say this is an important part of the story got my brain to think certain things. again, I'm probably wrong, this is just making me feel better.

so disclaimer: im 98.9% just being an idiotic hopeful fool BUT part of me doesn't understand remans reluctance unless i rationalise it in the following way:


Romi messed up big time. if he hadn't made that blunder that night, both raman and ishita's daughters would be safe and sound. ishita would be with him. his dream of seeing ishita playing with their child would have come true.

ishita would never had left, because ruhi would still be alive.

so perhaps they are playing this comedy to delay Raman coming to actually say these things?
yes,raman loves his brother. but at the same time, with raman still being in denial about his part in pushing ishita away, romi is someone he majorly blames for the fact ishita left, and rudi too?

writing this made me feel better. i think cvs are playing their cards like this so that the disruption in july can be passed to then move things along.
in any case writing this made me feel better, because the cvs brand of comedy is beyond me. even if this is not depicted on the show, this is how i choose to rationalise it. but when raman does finally have his breakdown, if he does, ill rationalise this into it😆



I still can't get over the fact that ishita hasnt called romi out on all the crap he's done in the past seven years, like joining hands with mihikas molester, trying to destroy his brothers business and trying to break into his office using to steal official documents and him leaving his parents when they did nothing wrong to him. And I'm surprised ishita hasn't called mihika out for not stopping him. I think all these things play a part in why raman isn't asking for forgiveness and this is justifiable
Edited by 07sid01 - 9 years ago

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