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Posted: 9 years ago
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My pov abt how can ishita clr ishmani marriage mu n aliya is a third party..

V can say aliya is a third party bt she is tge closest to ishita mani..living with them since 7 yrs...calls them amma appa..so she has no reason to lie acc to raman n raman has no reason to not to believe her...she clearly said they r going back n amma appa getting married so ishita stayed back only for ruhi ...raman too posponed marriage only for ruhi...

Raman in drink launch party clearly said 2/3 times u r marrying mani...mai shadi kar raha hu to tum b kr rahi ho ..mujhe jalane k liye ..hum koi school k bachche nahi hai..7 saal se ku latka k rakha tha use ...shadi kisi aur se kr rahi ho n nzr kisi aur pe..ab isse jyada clearly kaise kahega koi...he clearly said bt ishita instead of clearing n asking who told u she played dumb...

Adi too knows abt it bt he nvr tried to find out its true or not bcs cvs want to drag it..

Ruhi too knows abt it ..she told in court abt sharam marriage bt not ishmani marriage bcs cvs want to drag it...

Cvs purposely not clearing it to make their relation complicated..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: gargpoo

My pov abt how can ishita clr ishmani marriage mu n aliya is a third party..

V can say aliya is a third party bt she is tge closest to ishita mani..living with them since 7 yrs...calls them amma appa..so she has no reason to lie acc to raman n raman has no reason to not to believe her...she clearly said they r going back n amma appa getting married so ishita stayed back only for ruhi ...raman too posponed marriage only for ruhi...

Raman in drink launch party clearly said 2/3 times u r marrying mani...mai shadi kar raha hu to tum b kr rahi ho ..mujhe jalane k liye ..hum koi school k bachche nahi hai..7 saal se ku latka k rakha tha use ...shadi kisi aur se kr rahi ho n nzr kisi aur pe..ab isse jyada clearly kaise kahega koi...he clearly said bt ishita instead of clearing n asking who told u she played dumb...

Adi too knows abt it bt he nvr tried to find out its true or not bcs cvs want to drag it..

Ruhi too knows abt it ..she told in court abt sharam marriage bt not ishmani marriage bcs cvs want to drag it...

Cvs purposely not clearing it to make their relation complicated..


ishita did say clearly main aisa kuch nahin kar rahi. We blamed Raman since he was in no position to listen but seems like viewers too dont take Ishita's words seriously, so why blame Raman?😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: remya1990

Zoya, again a wonderful post.

Reading my version would really make you think that am insane. But still, I need to spill it off. So here I am.

Why do I feel that Raman is on a mission, precisely on a secret mission? Mission Ruhi is Ishita and Raman's mission. And owing Ishita again is Raman's secret mission. We cannot forget the fact that no one can plan anything better than Raman without anyone's knowledge. Except Ruhi's exchange plan, everything that he planned has been a success- especially his plans that circled around Ishita. Its evident that Ishita can make this man do what she wanted him to do. She has that power on him. And Raman can also make Ishita what he wanted to do. He too has the same power over her. Though both of theirs ways are different. Ishita is so straight forward. Her lectures are her way. But for Raman it is not. Raman Bhalla has his own style.

Raman was the happiest man when he saw Ishita at the police station. But the addressing of herself as "amma" for another girl other than his children put him in a chaos. He is a man of many complexities. But the chaos never let Raman think much, but to act insanely- each and every time. He was confused with her relation status. He could not ignore the fact that Mani loved her. At that time he feared that what does Ishita actually feel for him- does she still love him or has she forget him already, or is she still angry on him. He knew his harsh words were the reason for her suicide. But when she is well alive in front of him, he could not really comprehend what she feels for him. And for Raman anger is the best way to suppress all his hidden feelings, chaos, confusion and everything.

Raman Bhalla was jealous of Mani -- seriously jealous. That was long back. Then his wife asked, "how did you think that I love that stupid Mani?". But now at first when he was confused with their relation status, he was angry on her, on all her doings. His anger overpowered him. He could know anything about the three. And at that moment, this man did each and everything to hurt her"only to hurt her. He again spilled those venomous words to her, he taunted her everywhere he found her, he burned her things, he declared his re-marriage with Shagun, he declared himself and Shagun as their child's parents disowning her relation to the child. Though he declared his marriage and got ready to marry Shagun, he could not stand the fact that Ishita will marry Mani that too from the person he hates only for the addressing that she address his children's mother. And the possibility of her getting married to Mani still do exist. And he very well know that it is not the love for Mani, but a daughter-- Aliya. The mother in her, he knows will never die.

Raman taunted her about her relation status was to know what relation she shares with Mani. His taunting of Shagun once was entirely different. But to Ishita, she felt that Raman is thinking that she had cheated him. On the night they got drunk, it began with the same relation issue deep down. They were talking about themselves and the presence of two others also was felt in between them. After they got drunk, Ishita says that he has not changed. He is the same. Her Raman was still alive. She found it. This woman could understand him. And for Raman it was the same feeling. Ishita was the same, not changed a bit. His Ishita was still alive. She was/is only his. From that point, the two others in between them started to disappear slowly. The disturbance on the time of the marriage with Shagun was the reflection of that. He caressed her things that he never did (though we don't know exactly), he felt his Ishita. The anger has changed to something else to Raman.

On the same day when they found out Ruhi, he addressed them together as one to Ruhi. As Shagun said to Adi, that it was not necessary for Ishita to enter to Bhalla house to get Ruhi. There was nothing actually much complex. The "real" parents were getting married, and they could say that Ruhi would get a family ambiance. And to Ruhi, Raman could tell that Ishita is no more her Ishima, she is somebody else's "amma." If really Ishita had married or going to get married to Mani, would you think that Raman would get Ishita to his house. To house, it may happen--this man does anything for his kids. But straight to bedroom, explaining his relational status with Shagun. The man who shouted his lungs out when her family proposed him to get married for Shagun, for Pihu, he simply asked "par Pihu?" when everyone asked Ishita to stay in Raman's room. When his mother told that she will take care of Pihu, he had no issues. When Adi answered Pihu's query of "haar wali aunty's" stay in papa's room, he literally cooled down. After a long time, he shared a simple smile with his son.

The very first night in their bedroom he told his pain. She uttered sorry. He knew she will. But he also know that to accept her sorry, he has to fix his mistake first. He has to tell more of his state to her. He has only time till Ruhi comes. He wanted her to understand him, what her walking way will cause his life, how important is she to him till now...like it was everything before. But Raman Bhalla will show off everything in an attitude.

Raman knew where he went wrong. He has never accepted his mistakes. But to Ishita he told that they both have committed mistakes. And he very well knew that Ishita's mistake was the continuation of his mistake. So he has to fix it first. And he began. Letting her keep her dresses in his cupboard, her sleeping in his bed, even though he is having severe backpain is all the initials that we could not ignore. He had no issues while she massaged him, moreover he enjoyed the most. The flirty talk with her about a kind of intimacy in yesterday's episode is him directly telling her that he still desires her. Exiting from the room he self-talks "ab sab pehale jaise hoga." It was not only about Ruhi, it was about Raman and Ishita too- their family. He has unconsciously made it a point that he will not let go off Ishita this time. Yesterday he addressed Ishita as "baabiji" to Neelu - infront of Shagun. But he has to mend more things on their way to paradise. Pihu is one of them. It was a situation which came like a boon to him and he made use of it. He took her to Pihu's school. And of Ishita addressing her as "massi" (OLV), from no one, or from "haar wali aunty" she claimed herself as "maasi" of her daughter. Raman would make her call their daughter as her soon. That would be for the mistake for telling him that she won't claim their child (though it was for Pihu of which Raman was totally unaware of). And that would be for the mistake that he committed by calling her as no one to their daughter, for calling Shagun as "asli maa."

It is very evident that Pihu is not attached to Shagun as Shagun shows off. Neither she is. When she was asked that doesn't she have any problem in staying "haar wali aunty" and papa in a room, she without a second thought told that she is not. Remember how Ruhi was affected when Ishita was not taken to the so called family picnic, that too just for a day. During Shagun's stay at Bhalla house when Ashok threw her away, Ruhi did not allow Shagun to linger near Raman, she even protested Adi. That was her love for her mother. Shagun proves her to be a bad mother again and again. Yesterday when Ruhi fell down, she had time to beat Shravu and give him a full long lecture about his incapability, but had no time just to ask her daughter where she has hurt. She dint spare a moment to look in to her injury. That mother she is"a mother who disowned a daughter who was month's old, left her children to death, and now claiming a daughter who is not her's and using her.

The OLV of Ishita tying him up is also in his plan. Playing along with her and making her come along with his direction. He wants her to believe that it is only she who can control him. And it is very true. He wants others to believe that only Ishita can control him. It is quite successful also. He got control over his anger--Simmi told her. His mother told that everything is becoming normal and Ishita is secretly enjoying it. The man who touched the feet of Ashok for his Ishita, will not say a sorry to his brother whom he still loves, that too for his daughter? That is unbelievable. What Raman wants is that Ishita should do this. He wanted to prove her and everyone that only Ishita can do this-- to make him budge. If it would have been anyone else other than Ishita, he would have smashed and killed.

And for the precap, let it play out. The only thing is that he is showing is every side of their relationship to her. Will she able to go back if Ruhi claims her back as her Ishima? Who know this better than Raman Bhalla? "Ruhi ke liye" at this time for Raman is just to keep Ishita to himself for sometime and claim her altogether. He may be showing the vacuum in her life that would be created if she leaves them.

As I said at the beginning, this man knows how to make his wife to come on his way!!!

I don't know if I had made any sense.

So sorry for coming with a long one. Couldn't resist myself.

This is such an interesting take!
I thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed reading it. Wouldn't this be a wonderful way to encapsulate Raman's redemption? Thanks so much for posting, it made me smile.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: remya1990

Zoya, again a wonderful post.

Reading my version would really make you think that am insane. But still, I need to spill it off. So here I am.

Why do I feel that Raman is on a mission, precisely on a secret mission? Mission Ruhi is Ishita and Raman's mission. And owing Ishita again is Raman's secret mission. We cannot forget the fact that no one can plan anything better than Raman without anyone's knowledge. Except Ruhi's exchange plan, everything that he planned has been a success- especially his plans that circled around Ishita. Its evident that Ishita can make this man do what she wanted him to do. She has that power on him. And Raman can also make Ishita what he wanted to do. He too has the same power over her. Though both of theirs ways are different. Ishita is so straight forward. Her lectures are her way. But for Raman it is not. Raman Bhalla has his own style.

Raman was the happiest man when he saw Ishita at the police station. But the addressing of herself as "amma" for another girl other than his children put him in a chaos. He is a man of many complexities. But the chaos never let Raman think much, but to act insanely- each and every time. He was confused with her relation status. He could not ignore the fact that Mani loved her. At that time he feared that what does Ishita actually feel for him- does she still love him or has she forget him already, or is she still angry on him. He knew his harsh words were the reason for her suicide. But when she is well alive in front of him, he could not really comprehend what she feels for him. And for Raman anger is the best way to suppress all his hidden feelings, chaos, confusion and everything.

Raman Bhalla was jealous of Mani -- seriously jealous. That was long back. Then his wife asked, "how did you think that I love that stupid Mani?". But now at first when he was confused with their relation status, he was angry on her, on all her doings. His anger overpowered him. He could know anything about the three. And at that moment, this man did each and everything to hurt her"only to hurt her. He again spilled those venomous words to her, he taunted her everywhere he found her, he burned her things, he declared his re-marriage with Shagun, he declared himself and Shagun as their child's parents disowning her relation to the child. Though he declared his marriage and got ready to marry Shagun, he could not stand the fact that Ishita will marry Mani that too from the person he hates only for the addressing that she address his children's mother. And the possibility of her getting married to Mani still do exist. And he very well know that it is not the love for Mani, but a daughter-- Aliya. The mother in her, he knows will never die.

Raman taunted her about her relation status was to know what relation she shares with Mani. His taunting of Shagun once was entirely different. But to Ishita, she felt that Raman is thinking that she had cheated him. On the night they got drunk, it began with the same relation issue deep down. They were talking about themselves and the presence of two others also was felt in between them. After they got drunk, Ishita says that he has not changed. He is the same. Her Raman was still alive. She found it. This woman could understand him. And for Raman it was the same feeling. Ishita was the same, not changed a bit. His Ishita was still alive. She was/is only his. From that point, the two others in between them started to disappear slowly. The disturbance on the time of the marriage with Shagun was the reflection of that. He caressed her things that he never did (though we don't know exactly), he felt his Ishita. The anger has changed to something else to Raman.

On the same day when they found out Ruhi, he addressed them together as one to Ruhi. As Shagun said to Adi, that it was not necessary for Ishita to enter to Bhalla house to get Ruhi. There was nothing actually much complex. The "real" parents were getting married, and they could say that Ruhi would get a family ambiance. And to Ruhi, Raman could tell that Ishita is no more her Ishima, she is somebody else's "amma." If really Ishita had married or going to get married to Mani, would you think that Raman would get Ishita to his house. To house, it may happen--this man does anything for his kids. But straight to bedroom, explaining his relational status with Shagun. The man who shouted his lungs out when her family proposed him to get married for Shagun, for Pihu, he simply asked "par Pihu?" when everyone asked Ishita to stay in Raman's room. When his mother told that she will take care of Pihu, he had no issues. When Adi answered Pihu's query of "haar wali aunty's" stay in papa's room, he literally cooled down. After a long time, he shared a simple smile with his son.

The very first night in their bedroom he told his pain. She uttered sorry. He knew she will. But he also know that to accept her sorry, he has to fix his mistake first. He has to tell more of his state to her. He has only time till Ruhi comes. He wanted her to understand him, what her walking way will cause his life, how important is she to him till now...like it was everything before. But Raman Bhalla will show off everything in an attitude.

Raman knew where he went wrong. He has never accepted his mistakes. But to Ishita he told that they both have committed mistakes. And he very well knew that Ishita's mistake was the continuation of his mistake. So he has to fix it first. And he began. Letting her keep her dresses in his cupboard, her sleeping in his bed, even though he is having severe backpain is all the initials that we could not ignore. He had no issues while she massaged him, moreover he enjoyed the most. The flirty talk with her about a kind of intimacy in yesterday's episode is him directly telling her that he still desires her. Exiting from the room he self-talks "ab sab pehale jaise hoga." It was not only about Ruhi, it was about Raman and Ishita too- their family. He has unconsciously made it a point that he will not let go off Ishita this time. Yesterday he addressed Ishita as "baabiji" to Neelu - infront of Shagun. But he has to mend more things on their way to paradise. Pihu is one of them. It was a situation which came like a boon to him and he made use of it. He took her to Pihu's school. And of Ishita addressing her as "massi" (OLV), from no one, or from "haar wali aunty" she claimed herself as "maasi" of her daughter. Raman would make her call their daughter as her soon. That would be for the mistake for telling him that she won't claim their child (though it was for Pihu of which Raman was totally unaware of). And that would be for the mistake that he committed by calling her as no one to their daughter, for calling Shagun as "asli maa."

It is very evident that Pihu is not attached to Shagun as Shagun shows off. Neither she is. When she was asked that doesn't she have any problem in staying "haar wali aunty" and papa in a room, she without a second thought told that she is not. Remember how Ruhi was affected when Ishita was not taken to the so called family picnic, that too just for a day. During Shagun's stay at Bhalla house when Ashok threw her away, Ruhi did not allow Shagun to linger near Raman, she even protested Adi. That was her love for her mother. Shagun proves her to be a bad mother again and again. Yesterday when Ruhi fell down, she had time to beat Shravu and give him a full long lecture about his incapability, but had no time just to ask her daughter where she has hurt. She dint spare a moment to look in to her injury. That mother she is"a mother who disowned a daughter who was month's old, left her children to death, and now claiming a daughter who is not her's and using her.

The OLV of Ishita tying him up is also in his plan. Playing along with her and making her come along with his direction. He wants her to believe that it is only she who can control him. And it is very true. He wants others to believe that only Ishita can control him. It is quite successful also. He got control over his anger--Simmi told her. His mother told that everything is becoming normal and Ishita is secretly enjoying it. The man who touched the feet of Ashok for his Ishita, will not say a sorry to his brother whom he still loves, that too for his daughter? That is unbelievable. What Raman wants is that Ishita should do this. He wanted to prove her and everyone that only Ishita can do this-- to make him budge. If it would have been anyone else other than Ishita, he would have smashed and killed.

And for the precap, let it play out. The only thing is that he is showing is every side of their relationship to her. Will she able to go back if Ruhi claims her back as her Ishima? Who know this better than Raman Bhalla? "Ruhi ke liye" at this time for Raman is just to keep Ishita to himself for sometime and claim her altogether. He may be showing the vacuum in her life that would be created if she leaves them.

As I said at the beginning, this man knows how to make his wife to come on his way!!!

I don't know if I had made any sense.

So sorry for coming with a long one. Couldn't resist myself.


Excellent take Remya. Just loved it.👏👏. What better way for Raman's redemption that this? Your take on Raman's feelings, inner turmoil, state of mind , desires and his attitude is just awesome. How beautifully you have put them across. This would account for a major redemption for Raman. Nice.

Hmmm, Kaash, we get to see this on the show. I have zero expectations from CV's nowadays. It only gets worser with each passing day.

Cheers
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: mayasundar

Hi Zoya,

The pre-cap can be interpreted in different ways so I would like for the episode to air to really think about that scene

These are my guess(interpretation) whatever you like to call it

This is what the pre-cap actually says

Raman says Ishita, this fulfilling and anything good won't change the truth, don't try to pacify yourself, once Ruhi comes back, you will go to Australia, and I will get back to my normal routine, so don't have hope, then heart will break and you will be hurt, just stay well for these 23 days.

1. It can be interpreted as he abusing Ishita again for whatever good she has done till now after she came back to live in Bhalla house

2. It can be interpreted as him giving warning to himself to stay away from her so that he does not get hurt

3. It can be interpreted as he sees Ishita getting attached to the family and is warning her to stay away so that she does not get hurt

This is Viji interpretation of the scene

4. She thinks it is before they meet the teacher

So as I said you have to look at the scene before and after to know what he actually meant in the pre-cap so I will wait for tomorrow episode to see which one of my 3 guess will fit that scene.



Maya, as per my POV, it looks like a combination for Option 2 and Option 3. I do not understand why would he abuse Ishita for good things done post her entry in Bhalla house? I fail to understand that option.

It was a loud reminder given to himself and also a reminder given to Ishita, out of genuine care not to get too close only to be hurt when she leaves. Because he has seen the effect of Ruhi not being in Ishita's life when Ishita went in to a trauma. For me, it looks that these words are the after effects of Ishita introducing herself as maasi in the PTM. Having hit hardly by th eharsh reality, Raman has uttered those words.

We have to wait for the episode to air to understand the context. But this is my take on the whole precap. It is perfectly fine if it does not make sense or people do not agree.

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Originally posted by: remya1990

Zoya, again a wonderful post.

Reading my version would really make you think that am insane. But still, I need to spill it off. So here I am.

Why do I feel that Raman is on a mission, precisely on a secret mission? Mission Ruhi is Ishita and Raman's mission. And owing Ishita again is Raman's secret mission. We cannot forget the fact that no one can plan anything better than Raman without anyone's knowledge. Except Ruhi's exchange plan, everything that he planned has been a success- especially his plans that circled around Ishita. Its evident that Ishita can make this man do what she wanted him to do. She has that power on him. And Raman can also make Ishita what he wanted to do. He too has the same power over her. Though both of theirs ways are different. Ishita is so straight forward. Her lectures are her way. But for Raman it is not. Raman Bhalla has his own style.

Raman was the happiest man when he saw Ishita at the police station. But the addressing of herself as "amma" for another girl other than his children put him in a chaos. He is a man of many complexities. But the chaos never let Raman think much, but to act insanely- each and every time. He was confused with her relation status. He could not ignore the fact that Mani loved her. At that time he feared that what does Ishita actually feel for him- does she still love him or has she forget him already, or is she still angry on him. He knew his harsh words were the reason for her suicide. But when she is well alive in front of him, he could not really comprehend what she feels for him. And for Raman anger is the best way to suppress all his hidden feelings, chaos, confusion and everything.

Raman Bhalla was jealous of Mani -- seriously jealous. That was long back. Then his wife asked, "how did you think that I love that stupid Mani?". But now at first when he was confused with their relation status, he was angry on her, on all her doings. His anger overpowered him. He could know anything about the three. And at that moment, this man did each and everything to hurt her"only to hurt her. He again spilled those venomous words to her, he taunted her everywhere he found her, he burned her things, he declared his re-marriage with Shagun, he declared himself and Shagun as their child's parents disowning her relation to the child. Though he declared his marriage and got ready to marry Shagun, he could not stand the fact that Ishita will marry Mani that too from the person he hates only for the addressing that she address his children's mother. And the possibility of her getting married to Mani still do exist. And he very well know that it is not the love for Mani, but a daughter-- Aliya. The mother in her, he knows will never die.

Raman taunted her about her relation status was to know what relation she shares with Mani. His taunting of Shagun once was entirely different. But to Ishita, she felt that Raman is thinking that she had cheated him. On the night they got drunk, it began with the same relation issue deep down. They were talking about themselves and the presence of two others also was felt in between them. After they got drunk, Ishita says that he has not changed. He is the same. Her Raman was still alive. She found it. This woman could understand him. And for Raman it was the same feeling. Ishita was the same, not changed a bit. His Ishita was still alive. She was/is only his. From that point, the two others in between them started to disappear slowly. The disturbance on the time of the marriage with Shagun was the reflection of that. He caressed her things that he never did (though we don't know exactly), he felt his Ishita. The anger has changed to something else to Raman.

On the same day when they found out Ruhi, he addressed them together as one to Ruhi. As Shagun said to Adi, that it was not necessary for Ishita to enter to Bhalla house to get Ruhi. There was nothing actually much complex. The "real" parents were getting married, and they could say that Ruhi would get a family ambiance. And to Ruhi, Raman could tell that Ishita is no more her Ishima, she is somebody else's "amma." If really Ishita had married or going to get married to Mani, would you think that Raman would get Ishita to his house. To house, it may happen--this man does anything for his kids. But straight to bedroom, explaining his relational status with Shagun. The man who shouted his lungs out when her family proposed him to get married for Shagun, for Pihu, he simply asked "par Pihu?" when everyone asked Ishita to stay in Raman's room. When his mother told that she will take care of Pihu, he had no issues. When Adi answered Pihu's query of "haar wali aunty's" stay in papa's room, he literally cooled down. After a long time, he shared a simple smile with his son.

The very first night in their bedroom he told his pain. She uttered sorry. He knew she will. But he also know that to accept her sorry, he has to fix his mistake first. He has to tell more of his state to her. He has only time till Ruhi comes. He wanted her to understand him, what her walking way will cause his life, how important is she to him till now...like it was everything before. But Raman Bhalla will show off everything in an attitude.

Raman knew where he went wrong. He has never accepted his mistakes. But to Ishita he told that they both have committed mistakes. And he very well knew that Ishita's mistake was the continuation of his mistake. So he has to fix it first. And he began. Letting her keep her dresses in his cupboard, her sleeping in his bed, even though he is having severe backpain is all the initials that we could not ignore. He had no issues while she massaged him, moreover he enjoyed the most. The flirty talk with her about a kind of intimacy in yesterday's episode is him directly telling her that he still desires her. Exiting from the room he self-talks "ab sab pehale jaise hoga." It was not only about Ruhi, it was about Raman and Ishita too- their family. He has unconsciously made it a point that he will not let go off Ishita this time. Yesterday he addressed Ishita as "baabiji" to Neelu - infront of Shagun. But he has to mend more things on their way to paradise. Pihu is one of them. It was a situation which came like a boon to him and he made use of it. He took her to Pihu's school. And of Ishita addressing her as "massi" (OLV), from no one, or from "haar wali aunty" she claimed herself as "maasi" of her daughter. Raman would make her call their daughter as her soon. That would be for the mistake for telling him that she won't claim their child (though it was for Pihu of which Raman was totally unaware of). And that would be for the mistake that he committed by calling her as no one to their daughter, for calling Shagun as "asli maa."

It is very evident that Pihu is not attached to Shagun as Shagun shows off. Neither she is. When she was asked that doesn't she have any problem in staying "haar wali aunty" and papa in a room, she without a second thought told that she is not. Remember how Ruhi was affected when Ishita was not taken to the so called family picnic, that too just for a day. During Shagun's stay at Bhalla house when Ashok threw her away, Ruhi did not allow Shagun to linger near Raman, she even protested Adi. That was her love for her mother. Shagun proves her to be a bad mother again and again. Yesterday when Ruhi fell down, she had time to beat Shravu and give him a full long lecture about his incapability, but had no time just to ask her daughter where she has hurt. She dint spare a moment to look in to her injury. That mother she is"a mother who disowned a daughter who was month's old, left her children to death, and now claiming a daughter who is not her's and using her.

The OLV of Ishita tying him up is also in his plan. Playing along with her and making her come along with his direction. He wants her to believe that it is only she who can control him. And it is very true. He wants others to believe that only Ishita can control him. It is quite successful also. He got control over his anger--Simmi told her. His mother told that everything is becoming normal and Ishita is secretly enjoying it. The man who touched the feet of Ashok for his Ishita, will not say a sorry to his brother whom he still loves, that too for his daughter? That is unbelievable. What Raman wants is that Ishita should do this. He wanted to prove her and everyone that only Ishita can do this-- to make him budge. If it would have been anyone else other than Ishita, he would have smashed and killed.

And for the precap, let it play out. The only thing is that he is showing is every side of their relationship to her. Will she able to go back if Ruhi claims her back as her Ishima? Who know this better than Raman Bhalla? "Ruhi ke liye" at this time for Raman is just to keep Ishita to himself for sometime and claim her altogether. He may be showing the vacuum in her life that would be created if she leaves them.

As I said at the beginning, this man knows how to make his wife to come on his way!!!

I don't know if I had made any sense.

So sorry for coming with a long one. Couldn't resist myself.


BRILLIANT TAKE REMYA...👏👏👏 Loved reading ur post...Superb...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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People not seeing Raman's pain in precap must be side effect of seeing ShagMani's pain too much 😆
Anyway, Beautiful post Zoya. Agree with each and every word of yours.

P.S: sad for those who thinks Ishita will leave the beast Raman for her self respect n go behind Devdas tch tch 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thanks Zoya, Priya, banana.ishra, -K.13-, mayasundar, GBSC.
Happy to know that I made sense. 😊




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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r

Thanks for opening the post as you mentioned Zoya.😊.

As always, a very well written and balanced post.👏. I am just amazed at and truly admire your ability to write with such clarity, positivity and balanced POV every time, It definitely feels refreshing and positive.

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I have not went through the other comments. So in case if there is any repetition in my views with other views , I'm extremely sorry.

I had posted my take on Sri's thread yesterday and I would like to use them here as well.

Yesterday, during Raman's self talk outside IshRa room, we got to witness what deep within his heart Raman actually wants and desires for. He believed and was happy that things would fall in place gradually. I feel that his words were meant not only for Ruhi getting back to her family, but also him and Ishita getting back together as husband and wife again in life, so that he can get to live happily with his wife and kids as a complete family. This is what he has been yearning for all these years. At that point he did not bother to think about anything and anyone :- be it Shagun, Mani or the family members or even Pihu's truth for that matter.

From the precap, it looks like the harsh reality has struck him and his mind has taken control over his heart. Hence he uttered those words. According to me was a reminder to both of them. He did not want to get involved with Ishita and feel miserable & get hurt when she decides to leave. At the same time, out of genuine care for her, he did not want her get attached to the family and then get hurt while she decides to leave. Because he understands Ishita and her immense love for Ruhi. After winning back Ruhi's love, he for sure knows the intensity of the pain and the hurt Ishita would suffer when she decides to leave. I do not think he made a casual, sarcastic comment there and neither was Ishita crying. He just spoke the harsh truth while Ishita chose to accept the same by staying quiet.

We are yet to see what Ishita told him and what drove him to say these words. Let us wait for the episode to air to understand the context.
My pure assumption is that this happened after the PTA meet. Ishita might have been happy with the feedback she got about Pihu from her teacher. She might have shared her happiness about that and also about the fact that they are beginning to get a ray of hope in the direction of Ruhi's come back & healing. So she might have expressed her happiness about things falling in place and the family getting back together. Raman, on the other hand might not have recovered from the after effects of Ishita introducing herself as Pihu's maasi. The reality struck him then and hence his words. Though I felt bad for IshRa during that scene, I believe he has a valid point there. Keeping aside what they really want, his words reflected the sad reality; the messy situation they are in now; it is harsh, but it is also the sad truth.

I am still unsure of what is preventing both of them from thinking about Ruhi's condition after Ishita decides to leave. Ruhi wanted her parents to be together and the family to be united. Now if things start to fall in place and Ishita decides to leave, what effect would her decision leave on Ruhi is a bigger question. Ruhi has never given the place of a mother to Shagun and will never ever give that place in future. Adi also is in the same boat. Either CV's have totally messed up with this point or they are taking the route, where IshRa badly wants Ruhi to come back from the clutches of Nidhi first with the belief that they can somehow convince Ruhi & Adi about the realities and make them understand about Ishita's decision. God knows what CV's have in store for us.

This is why I always wanted a straight, honest confrontation and talk between IshRa first. They need to talk about the things that happened 7 years back on that night and in all these 7 years openly and frankly. Other than that, I don't see a solution to this problem. Their actions and words cannot be undone, it is only that they have to be left behind for a new start. Only if they get back together as a couple in true sense, they can plan about revealing the truth to Pihu and handling its after-effects. Ideally only IshRa can and should do the necessary damage control and not others. But in the current state of mind both are in, revealing about Pihu's identity is the last thing they will have in mind.

Now, I do not want to get in to the debate of who should take the lead and start the discussion, because perspectives differ. For me, from what I have seen personally and what I believe in, if you really want to mend a relationship, if you really want someone in your life and you know that the other person also feels the same,there is no point in playing the "you first, me then" game. We have to let go off the ego, assumptions and talk face to face. I would not mind taking the first step as long as the relationship wins over the egos. Male ego, female ego, dignity, self respect all those don't make sense at this place.
But having known CV's, having known IshRa and the messy situation they have been reduced to, thanks to the great CVs , this looks like a distant dream for me.

I don't know if I made sense. But those were my two cents.

Cheers
Priya




wonderful priya.
i love reading your views, and you did it once again 😊
i really have no idea how they plan to move forward and reunite, i just hope its a way that is worthy of our ishra.
i seriously hope there is some major angst and intensity coming our way.
and of course as you say, they need to talk.

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Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r


Maya, as per my POV, it looks like a combination for Option 2 and Option 3. I do not understand why would he abuse Ishita for good things done post her entry in Bhalla house? I fail to understand that option.

It was a loud reminder given to himself and also a reminder given to Ishita, out of genuine care not to get too close only to be hurt when she leaves. Because he has seen the effect of Ruhi not being in Ishita's life when Ishita went in to a trauma. For me, it looks that these words are the after effects of Ishita introducing herself as maasi in the PTM. Having hit hardly by th eharsh reality, Raman has uttered those words.

We have to wait for the episode to air to understand the context. But this is my take on the whole precap. It is perfectly fine if it does not make sense or people do not agree.

Cheers
Priya


Hi Priya,

As I said these are interpretations people can take it anyway they want it so if you take option 2 and 3 I cannot fault with it but coming back to your question why option 1 is even there.

Raman is a complex person one time he is hot and the other time he cold so it is very difficult to understand him sometimes; to further simplify it I would give you an example of one instance remember he went to Iyers house to call Ishita there he said that he would put away their difference and ego between them and work as a team for Ruhi but the second she came into Bhalla house he could not put away his difference aside and started taunting her and pushed her away instead of working as a team he took decision on his own about Ruhi so if you see incident like these then the first option would make sense because here whatever the reason may be he sees her happy and states that don't pacify yourselves with these kind of happiness generally when we see a person happy we don't try to bring down their happiness if you do then it is kind off an emotional abuse of that person.

Having said that I would still like to wait for the episode to air to see the what happens before he said those things because that in itself will change the context of the dialogue that is why I interpreted it in three different ways as I like to see it from different angles and not get stuck with one point of view and then one more angle which was suggested by Viji which I did not even think off was that this dialogue were before meeting the teacher so we have to wait for today episode to decide which option will best that scene.


Edited by mayasundar - 9 years ago

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