I see right through you, Raman Kumar Bhalla. - Page 4

Ok..I was so irritated when i saw the precap...now after seeing so much positiveness I thought to think positively as well..that's all we guys are for..we want ishra together..they are so honest never hurt others but they are fine to hurt each other because they think they own other..I just remember the scene after drunk scene in hotel..though Raman is full conscious mode admired ishita being in his arms..I don't believe he is angry that he is assuming that ishu marries mani..he is angry that she didn't come back to him for 7 years...Ishu being ishu not trying to clarify him..only actions speak and it will come out eventually..until then this minor heart breaks of they will not be together after this so called 20 days will still persist..but i'm sure in this journey they will come together and understand each other pain..no one needs to clarify Raman that ishu has moved in..in his conscious mind he is aware that ishu loves him and only him...remember the smirk when Mani and Shagun leaves..he is reminding her only we two can get along together..he did not hesitate to hug her..she did not find it inappropriate to hug him back..they find solace in each other..we can see the difference of their relation from the day ishu entered their home to now..improved so much..Raman didn't mind to flirt with her..of course when reality comes in like when Ishu said she is Pihu Massi..he may be angry with her that they got in this situation because of her or he may be reminding him self about it..i want to watch tomorrows episode..i hope we get to see something postive around it...I really don't want YHM to convert to a Sautan drama..had we not got enough of Shagun in the earlier version...I wish Raman clarifies Shagun the way Ishu clarifies Mani about their relation...one thing I'm very happy atleast for now that Ruhi never went near to Shagun even she hates Ishita for now..it is not about Ishra...it is about mother child relation...I'm happy that Ishu planned to take Ruhi to counsellor..she in this track shown selfless and trying to amend things keeping all her sadness aside...one other thing I loved during safety pin scene..Raman clearly conveyed that he wont change no matter what..does he indirectly conveying that his love towards wont change as well..the other important point he said she is just like me..doesn't know how to convey love

Originally posted by: Zoyamalik2005

Thank you😆

Honestly you guys are what make the post worth while. A wonderful response as usual. I want to really see Raman's reaction when he realises Ishita's truth.

I really really hope when they come together it'll be for them now. If anything, this track should at least accomplish that!

And I think it will. If Ishita will leave despite Ruhi being there, which she says she will, then only Raman, for himself, and not Ruhi ke liye, can bring her back.

bcs ur posts r worth reading n responding... 😳

It shyd b for them this time otherwise no meaning of this separation n all torture...these 30 days r for ruhi k liye after that they want it to b for ek duje k liye thats y reminding again n again..

And abt pihu i read ppl r angry on raman for not telling pihu abt ishita i too want that bt like u i can understand y raman didnt tell pihu...he wanted her keep away from their dark past any pain any hurt n thats y she is the only happy soul in the house...he didnt want her to go through the same pain ruhi n adi went through...v know raman wud not hv been married again n fake marriage with wud b meaning less if pihu knew the truth ..and pihu too wud hv been end uo motherless like ruhi...
Today wen raman asked her to come witb him to pihu school i think that time tgey realized they r parents bt the the saf part is he cant tell pihu now n she cant claim her...

Nice post and many positive comments.I did not watch the episodes pre leap. So what happened with isitha and the suicide truth that raman doesn't know?

Edited on pg1..dunno whether I made sense though😛

Originally posted by: bscorp13

Aah you posted...😆

Agree with everything zoya..

It reminds me of one of my fav songs , the situation that ishra are in currently.

Do pal ru ka khwaabon ka kaarwaan. .aur phir chal diye, tum kahaan hum kahaan

.living in that state of comfort, camaraderie. . The next moment realizing that all this is ..that was their life.. that could have been their life...is an impossible dream now...even if one assumes mani and ishita aren't getting married. .will both raman and ishita want to shake up the life of tjhe one child that seems to have a secure life ., by putting their selfish desires ahead of that child's innocence. ..ironically that very child who is tjhe b symbol of their love...the answer is a painful and clear no..both ishita and v raman know that neither of them wil be able to put their child through that...

You know what's funny...had it not been for raman's hasty self destructive move to marry shagun and then ruhi being found...ishita and v raman were at v actually at a point of no return..she would have gone back to her manufactured happy life in Australia. . And he back to his self destructive pit in his emotional withdrawal...whether they b married other people was inconsequential. ..

Rather shagun continuing to b e a good mother to pihu and being selfless etc as she vwas..posed the biggest threat to ishra ever considering getting back together. ..and thstsv the factor that won't allow ishita to b reveal herself even today...

So in a strange way..both of b them are living it out.. in these 30 days..their subconscious drags them n towards each other and then the conscious mind kicks in...

Its no surprise that this is more clearly evident in tjhe more emotional and more sensitive amongst the 2...raman ...he cracks open one moment. .when he tells her about his loneliness. . And then rebukes her for dreaming...😛...he lets down his guard and his heart takes over when he pins her saree..but tjhe next moment he questions her decision to change...while staying that he can never change...he plays perfect father and husband when he dances for ruhi with ishita.. and then he can't help but burn in jealousy when he sees her in another man's arms...

And today...he is in a happy place..talking with her..fighting with her...taking decisions for ruhi with her.. and then he gets a call asking..can he come to pihus school..and when she was out his subconscious kicks in...he wants to share everything n with her..just like before and he asks her before he can stop himself. . And he is happy she agrees..they are still living that hopeless dream..when discussing their child's progress...

And then reality sets in. .who are you to tjhe child. .. and yes reality sets in for both. .but his conscious mind kicks in n again. .while she is v the b stronger one..she doesn't express. .but he does. .he articulates the b fact. . The b reality of btheirb'borrowed' time..don't get attached..don't dream.. you will be hurt he says...it's him speaking for both of them..

Both of them know it..it's just that he says it out aloud and she doesn't

Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r

Thanks for opening the post as you mentioned Zoya.😊.

As always, a very well written and balanced post.👏. I am just amazed at and truly admire your ability to write with such clarity, positivity and balanced POV every time, It definitely feels refreshing and positive.

Will reserve this space for my thoughts which I will add tomorrow. Having ranted so much today because of the OLVs, I need to rest my hands for coming back stronger tomorrow. Going to bed now.😊

Cheers

Priya

Originally posted by: rose1000

As far as I remember it was Alia, in her effort to show Raman his place, blurted out that Ishu will marry Mani. Neither Ishita nor Mani have any clue about it. It is something Raman heard from a third source and started believing it.

If Raman hearing from a third source can believe it, then how can anybody expect Ishita to talk about it when she has no idea of it at all? Raman always taunts her..it is his habit...he has been like that even before they got married. So how on earth can Ishita differentiate between the taunts now? Just like Raman is misunderstanding her based on what Alia had said, Ishita too cannot understand why Raman keeps bringing up Mani. She may be thinking..it is his old habit..those taunts she is used to...

So in this case...the mu happened because of Alia...so why should anyone expect Ishita to do all the explaining? Why should Raman not tell her about what he had heard from Alia?

Well I don't expect any neutral replies. I know all the replies will be in defense of Raman. But I wanted to point out that it was created by Alia. Ishita has no idea. Because she has rejected Mani. Just my POV. No one has to agree.

I missed all the fun but man I loved reading everyone's POV - especially yours Zoya...

For me, outside of the crude stupidity coming our way let OLVs...I am finding myself once again able to relate to Ishita and Raman. Maybe I'm a good modern TRP Aunty and forget things...but over the last week or so, I can follow and easily empathize with both IshRa.

Originally posted by: rose1000

As far as I remember it was Alia, in her effort to show Raman his place, blurted out that Ishu will marry Mani. Neither Ishita nor Mani have any clue about it. It is something Raman heard from a third source and started believing it.

If Raman hearing from a third source can believe it, then how can anybody expect Ishita to talk about it when she has no idea of it at all? Raman always taunts her..it is his habit...he has been like that even before they got married. So how on earth can Ishita differentiate between the taunts now? Just like Raman is misunderstanding her based on what Alia had said, Ishita too cannot understand why Raman keeps bringing up Mani. She may be thinking..it is his old habit..those taunts she is used to...

So in this case...the mu happened because of Alia...so why should anyone expect Ishita to do all the explaining? Why should Raman not tell her about what he had heard from Alia?

Well I don't expect any neutral replies. I know all the replies will be in defense of Raman. But I wanted to point out that it was created by Alia. Ishita has no idea. Because she has rejected Mani. Just my POV. No one has to agree.