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Posted: 9 years ago
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It's nice to be positive & I strive to, but my patience is running thing. I have watched YHM build up emotions only to cave into stereotypes time & time again.

If they could actually SHOW what you describe, it would be beautiful but the problem is this isn't shown in explicit ways to understand like everyone's else's emotions are.

Raman is complex & beautiful but functionally his role is limited. I don't mean in terms of a love story but just in terms of doing positive things for a track.

Raman is always on the offensive when it comes to dealing with emotions but not when it comes to dealing with problems (especially now). Ishita is on the defensive with emotions but offensive when it comes to dealing with things.

His approach to emotions has been there early on but not his approach to problems and there in lies the source of my problems. Make him rude/callous as he tried to protect his heart & hold all the cards, but let him do useful things in tracks too.

Khair thanks for the nice post - it's great to see something other than how Raman is disgusting/pathetic.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Edited again on Page 1, because I digressed from the main tone of the topic 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Veeann

Zoya, I love you bas.

Your analysis of why Raman is acting as he is is interesting indeed.

Just paraphrasing what I wrote in Aru's thread -

Raman. Raman is my jaan and I am partial towards him. I get his strategy of hurt before they hurt you. It's what he did with Ishita. He still has not realised fully his role in what happened to Ruhi. His role in why Ishita did what she did. But he is breaking. He will come to his realization slowly. But today the same man who a couple of weeks ago said " I should've let her die" says "I can't watch her die"

He is unravelling slowly and now they will get together and fight to rescue their rooh. And even though it will be Ruhi ke liye, love will triumph in the end.

today he accepted he cant c her die..the same man who were screaming u shud b dead .i dont wanna c ur face ..today not leaving her side..
And the v same man who said u dont deserve to b a mother..u r not mother of my kids ..today he knows wat ruhi means to her...ruhi is ishita's jaan...
Today his pain his helplessness his fear of losing ishita everything ws visible..
He is unravelling slowly ...soon he will accept his mistake too..
I m too partial towards him..i jst love him..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: bscorp13

Zoya... you are a gem😛

And yes todays raman bhalla was a set of contradictions. ..
Yes, he saw the mirror in terms of not just his pain but what his actions had done to his family, his ishita and his ruhi...
Today he was the helpless father whose daughter rejected him even when he pleaded with her to forgive him..
Today he was also the helpless witness to ishita's breakdown. ..helpless because like you rightly said he feels powerless to make any changes to what destiny has in store for them. .

You know deep within i feel both ishita and raman have a long way to go to forgive each other as parents for what they did to ruhi...where raman voices it..ishita doesnt...but it doesn't mean that she blames raman any less...ishita by nature wants to set things right first and then ponder ..whIle raman is emotional. .he lets out his emotions first before acting. ..

And thirdly i would take this one line which tjhe whole forum is on fire on. . With a pinch of salt..because they were told to mani... the one man who still can make RKB totally powerless ..because in his heart ishita trusts mani more than him.. and probably he feels she loves him too...
And hence raman would never b tell mani his true feelings or his realization about ishita. It is always going to be cloaked under arrogance..false pride..and self preservation tactics..that's why one on hand he says he still blames her and tjhe very next moment he lets the cat out of the bag saying he can't see her in this state..
I mean the man who just days back spewed venom saying he wished her dead can't even see her in pain. .her agony is still his agony..I mean what more is needed as proof of true love...

That said. .I think cvs changed their mind about letting raman unravel ..they edited 2 crucial scenes in the last few epis..one where he stands up for ishita against shagun and tjhe other today when he goes crazy with worry and numb with ishita's breakdown and is shown not k eaving her bedside. Holding her hand..
Looks like they want to go tjhe accident track way..withholding raman's pov and his state of mind till the climax..
Till then they will torment viewers with glimpses good and bad .. and use those as tjhe basis for the actions of shagun, mani, amma, vandu..etc. ..
Dunno how far the v tactic would work..but it means the audience misses out on a beautiful phase in ishras relationship😕


Nice post bscorp(don't know your name)
I agreed with you and I just hope we will get Raman pov Soon .
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -K.13-

It's nice to be positive & I strive to, but my patience is running thing. I have watched YHM build up emotions only to cave into stereotypes time & time again.

If they could actually SHOW what you describe, it would be beautiful but the problem is this isn't shown in explicit ways to understand like everyone's else's emotions are.

Raman is complex & beautiful but functionally his role is limited. I don't mean in terms of a love story but just in terms of doing positive things for a track.

Raman is always on the offensive when it comes to dealing with emotions but not when it comes to dealing with problems (especially now). Ishita is on the defensive with emotions but offensive when it comes to dealing with things.

His approach to emotions has been there early on but not his approach to problems and there in lies the source of my problems. Make him rude/callous as he tried to protect his heart & hold all the cards, but let him do useful things in tracks too.

Khair thanks for the nice post - it's great to see something other than how Raman is disgusting/pathetic.

Krishy i saw the epi..after reading the comments on the LU..
And while you make total sense.. the epi and the scene being spoken about are actually not that bad at all..
Yup I have ranted st the gimmickery of the raman shagun shaadi epi..but today if ishita was shown as vulnerable and completely broken. .raman was shown as numb and starting to break. ..
If ishita's breaking point cane with a breakdown..physical and emotional. .Raman's start to opening up came with the acceptance and realization that he can't see ishita die. ..and that along with both parents literally begging their teen daughter with folded hands to forgive them..made the epi a must watch..
The one line that's been dissected is really a very insignificant one if you look at the before and after of actions. .including those of raman. ..
Raman tomorrow will ask ruhi to call ishita ..ishima..to get her back.. to revive her..if he really blamed her and was not guilty .. wht take the pain of doing all that. ..let her rot in hell for all he cares. ..

Yes cvs are playing a game here..purposely veilimg raman's words and actions like in the accident track... they kept his thoughts hidden toll the climax.. and thus is evident by what they have chopped off from the olvs. .but today's epi certainly doesn't deserve the hate it's getting. ..and esp raman..it's just being blown out of proportion. .given the context. .

Rest ..like you said. .one hopes raman does have a role to play..but looks like he does .. at least from the way both ishra seem to be working together for the battle ahead to get ruhi back...😊

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -K.13-

It's nice to be positive & I strive to, but my patience is running thing. I have watched YHM build up emotions only to cave into stereotypes time & time again.

If they could actually SHOW what you describe, it would be beautiful but the problem is this isn't shown in explicit ways to understand like everyone's else's emotions are.

Raman is complex & beautiful but functionally his role is limited. I don't mean in terms of a love story but just in terms of doing positive things for a track.

Raman is always on the offensive when it comes to dealing with emotions but not when it comes to dealing with problems (especially now). Ishita is on the defensive with emotions but offensive when it comes to dealing with things.

His approach to emotions has been there early on but not his approach to problems and there in lies the source of my problems. Make him rude/callous as he tried to protect his heart & hold all the cards, but let him do useful things in tracks too.

Khair thanks for the nice post - it's great to see something other than how Raman is disgusting/pathetic.

i did not understand why cvs portraying raman as a rude person .they created so much hate for character
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -K.13-

It's nice to be positive & I strive to, but my patience is running thing. I have watched YHM build up emotions only to cave into stereotypes time & time again.

If they could actually SHOW what you describe, it would be beautiful but the problem is this isn't shown in explicit ways to understand like everyone's else's emotions are.

Raman is complex & beautiful but functionally his role is limited. I don't mean in terms of a love story but just in terms of doing positive things for a track.

Raman is always on the offensive when it comes to dealing with emotions but not when it comes to dealing with problems (especially now). Ishita is on the defensive with emotions but offensive when it comes to dealing with things.

His approach to emotions has been there early on but not his approach to problems and there in lies the source of my problems. Make him rude/callous as he tried to protect his heart & hold all the cards, but let him do useful things in tracks too.

Khair thanks for the nice post - it's great to see something other than how Raman is disgusting/pathetic.


Krishy, I saw the epi after reading the LU. That one statement of his is being taken out of context in the scheme of other things 😳 Not to mean he doesn't still believe her to be at fault, but he didn't hurl it the way it has been presented here.

What he truly meant was that he himself has been the most angry with her for what happened to Ruhi, but even he can't see her die for Ruhi.

RKB has been butchered badly no doubt, but we don't create a furore when it needs to be, and on other small things 😕 Oh and he's the SP ML, not going to do anything useful anytime soon I guess
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: bscorp13


@bold..👏👏..exactly my point too..but you just killed it with your. . And that's as close to I love her damitt! 😳...epic⭐️


That's how I saw it coming 😆 But I don't get it, this time he didn't even throw it at her as an insult 😆 Khair
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: bscorp13


Krishy i saw the epi..after reading the comments on the LU..
And while you make total sense.. the epi and the scene being spoken about are actually not that bad at all..
Yup I have ranted st the gimmickery of the raman shagun shaadi epi..but today if ishita was shown as vulnerable and completely broken. .raman was shown as numb and starting to break. ..
If ishita's breaking point cane with a breakdown..physical and emotional. .Raman's start to opening up came with the acceptance and realization that he can't see ishita die. ..and that along with both parents literally begging their teen daughter with folded hands to forgive them..made the epi a must watch..
The one line that's been dissected is really a very insignificant one if you look at the before and after of actions. .including those of raman. ..
Raman tomorrow will ask ruhi to call ishita ..ishima..to get her back.. to revive her..if he really blamed her and was not guilty .. wht take the pain of doing all that. ..let her rot in hell for all he cares. ..

Yes cvs are playing a game here..purposely veilimg raman's words and actions like in the accident track... they kept his thoughts hidden toll the climax.. and thus is evident by what they have chopped off from the olvs. .but today's epi certainly doesn't deserve the hate it's getting. ..and esp raman..it's just being blown out of proportion. .given the context. .

Rest ..like you said. .one hopes raman does have a role to play..but looks like he does .. at least from the way both ishra seem to be working together for the battle ahead to get ruhi back...😊



See I didn't find his line that offensive...maybe I'm immune but him being anger is just as justified as her being angry. They lost a child - couples either come out stronger or break apart. Luckily in IshRa's case they do have the ability to come together through a possibly lost child.

The line also didn't bother me bc he was talking to Mani...the one person who he won't be open and honest with, the one person who sets him off like a firecracker & makes him realize how low he could be standig in Ishita's life right now

I was just more annoyed bc they villianized the one track I liked post surrogacy! So my frustration is triggered from everything. 😆.

I always wanted this track to end as the opposite of the "climax" of Shanaya track...working together but saving both kids.

And yes that's where it's so so evident is the OLVs & the intentional change they made. I started building castles with the OLVs and got BKT on the show...my mistake 😆. Honestly I may just need to legit try to quit bc I've just become so bitter about what they could do and what they show
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Nidoo-


That's how I saw it coming 😆 But I don't get it, this time he didn't even throw it at her as an insult 😆 Khair


Yup that's why context is is important. . When I read tjhe LU..I was pissed. .and was like..not again😡😆
But when I saw the scene..it was like a totally different line, esp clubbed with what he said after...it's like one forgets to put exclamation marks in a sentence hence changing the meaning. ..😛
Ishita once told mani..you can't ever love me as much as raman hates me..that was ishita's way if saying no one can love me with a passion that RKB does. ..
Today raman saying..nobody could have hated her as much as I did for losing ruhi...but today I can't see her die , pining for ruhi...was raman's way of saying he can't even hate her if he wants to..forget seeing her die...😳😛.. because no one can love her the way he does😳

Both lines..ishita's then to mani.. and raman's now to mani..have the same meaning😊


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