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Posted: 9 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: bscorp13



@bold..yup that's true though...they have distorted that track to make it totally raman's mistake. .whereas the v fact is that he repeatedly told ishita to not interfere in pallavis family matter. , And then It all came crashing down after the murder...nidhis involvement was purely desperate raman trying to n save ishita from the noose., and so was his drama later..one of my fav 7 30 pm yhm tracks. .
Now that being made 'reasom' for all problems in theur life is shocking. ..Raman's plan actually succeeded with nidhi being caught..but then as usual she was let free..
Blane the police and judicial system., else the woman should have rotted in jail..but how is all thus raman's fault. ..

IshRas bunch of mistakes starts and ends with the child swao..not with who got nidhi into their lives. .blaming raman for it ..is tjhe same as blaming ishita for shagun's continued interference in their lives because it is she who brought her home after ashok dumped her...but i don't think romi can or will ever point that out.., Male leads can be blamed for everything from psychos disrupting their lives to global warming😆😆
We have to live with that though😆

word pb!! 👏
This is wat pissed me off..how can they blame raman for murder track..
Ishita ws the one who interfered in someone's family matter inspite of raman's warnings..
She ws the one who killed chadhdha in self defence..
N raman ws the one who fought tooth n nail to bring her back..falling on road running behind a so called lawer taking every shit she threw at him..sleeping on floor ...crying like hell..for whom only for ishita...where ws the family that time...he ws the only one who ws doing everything
Wen she ws going to get hanged wat he supposed to do..he took that drastic step to save her...his father n shagun slapped him..his daughter divorced him his son left home whole family ws angry with him..he took everything only for ishita...n his plan ws successful too..it ws police who failed..
Romi ws accusing him...can v ask where ws he wen his bhabhi got phansi ki saza...no one did anything to save ishita except raman ...
Today raman ws wrong for that too..
Edited by gargpoo - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#52
Nice take Zoya...

Raman is simple yet complex..

He is weak yet portray himself as strong to the world..

He is lighthearted yet portray himself as ruthless & arrogant..

He won't open things to anybody except 'The Woman'...

He is hard nutshell to crack..

Once 'The Woman' crushed his core ego & made him fall in love again..

Now he wants to get back Ruhi for the same..

He always choose the easy path-self destruction not cuz he liked it just that he is not ready to show his vulnerable side to anyone...

I always felt Raman is powerful cuz his power is 'The Woman'..

He happily transferred his power & surrendered to her..

But now she is not with him & he acts as ruthless but truth is he is powerless..

He will rise once again with the help of 'The Woman'..

'The Woman' is Ishita Raman Kumar Bhalla & yes he couldn't cut the chord even if he hates her..

He is truly powerless cuz his power is Ishita...😛
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Posted: 9 years ago
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hello guyz ,does raman gave up on ruhi n ishita r wat? as ruhi rejected ishra n whole family. prev we saw for adi n ruhi how he girgaya before shagun,now he can't see ishita dieing for ruhi n done one just phone call n left it? r it will be cleared in next episodes.

about raman mistakes,its silly of cvs to bring prev track thing.in dis track like others raman has his share of faults n he has major share but he forcefully want someone responsible for it n even tried to rub on others tats wrong.raman pops u r responsible for ur kids n as dad u r responsible for ur kids thing more than romi,who will take responsible for ur kids lol.raman instead of playing powergames in blaming n all,it's better use ur strategies,mind n power games in solving d problems.raman babu stop playing power games n manup n accept ur mistakes then power comes automatically to u ,no need to run behind power ,period.

Edited by Savz_Startling - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#54
Thank you to everyone who contributed today.
There have been some amazing responses, and cvs ki na Ho Jaan Raman, humari tou hai na 😆
There are some writers on this forum that seriously out perform me on the analysis front, and I thank them especially.

And a big thanks to everyone who took the time to say hi and thank me too.

Big, big hugs 😳

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Anku-

Thanks so so much Zoya for posting such a master piece every day... Your words are magical...a dose of positivity one needs amidst such chaos. Thanks for being that source of good thought on the forum. It's easier to count faults and view everything the obvious way. It takes a lot to do otherwise. 😳🤗

I do not side Raman, or try to understand him because he is a character that I have a soft corner for, but also because I like you choose to be positive. If I wouldn't want to, its easier to believe in the facade he thinks is his reality.

Raman has been powerless in front of his destiny many a times. He has lost a lot that he thought he wouldn't ever. And every time he breaks down, gathers and begins moving ahead something does pull him back, whether its his fault or not, whether its his own actions and words or not.. At the beginning of this show they showed him gaining success and changing that one thing that he thought caused him to lose a family...the lack of money, fame and luxuries. He was shown to believe that ones destiny lies in their own hands, he believed that he could control even his emotions like he controlled the profit and loss his business made. But he was rendered incapable of restricting his emotions as Ishita came into his life, as he molded back into the man whose life revolved around the smiles and happiness of his children, around the safety of his family and around a woman who changed his world upside down ...for the good. He realized that he hadn't known love all along until she showed him what it really was... She made him a father, a husband, a lover a human again... and he entrusted her with everything...He gave her his heart, his trust and the power like you said.

His hazy mind which is only registering what his words have ended up doing, still feels that the power he gave her caused her to leave him once Ruhi had left them. He isn't able to go beyond the fact that HIS ISHITA couldn't just leave him, but could also go commit suicide. That's what she can do if she is left to take a decision.

It's not as if he doesn't realize what he's done, as if he hasn't lived with the guilt of pushing his family and life away and ruining his world with his own hands. He's as good as dead, burdened with the hurt, pain and self loath...And it is EXACTLY that what stops him from accepting it to himself and to others...because if he does he would be saying ' Yes I was at fault, I ruined us' and he probably fears she would say ' It's better we stay apart'

Now that Ruhi is alive, an illogical but faint hope has come to reside in him, that maybe she will have reason to come back to him. And this hope will make it harder to accept his mistakes. But its not something he can control. She will be back in his home, near him, with him and in the familiarity of every new moment they share that reminds them of an old memory, involuntarily he will again lose his power to Ishita...because that's how it works.

I understand what you said, all said and done if he does not accept his share of blame, will Ishita ever have the confidence to go back to him and be a mother again to his kids after the torturous life that Ruhi had to endure. Would Ishita give him the power to destroy her again. Would he relieve her of the pain and guilt at least a little bit. I am hoping he does, so the healing of all three could be beautiful journey. Ishita will make it right between Ruhi and the Bhallas, but Raman needs to step up and make it right between Ishita and Ruhi. Last time also he did not own up to his role in the swap and was having dinners with Ruhi and ex and was able to have an equation with Ruhi, but he did not try and mend relations between Ruhi and Ishita..he showed her videos and discussed how she is and all that..but no bridging..it is like he wants to have good relations with his kids and is afraid to lose them and does not want to rock the boat. Not sure about this..but that is how I felt when watching those episodes. Hope he does better this time around.
Edited by Mreddy - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Superb post Zoya. loved everything you said there 😳
Nothing more to add. Some great comments here 👏
Big jhappi to you 🤗
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: bscorp13

Krishy i saw the epi..after reading the comments on the LU..
And while you make total sense.. the epi and the scene being spoken about are actually not that bad at all..
Yup I have ranted st the gimmickery of the raman shagun shaadi epi..but today if ishita was shown as vulnerable and completely broken. .raman was shown as numb and starting to break. ..
If ishita's breaking point cane with a breakdown..physical and emotional. .Raman's start to opening up came with the acceptance and realization that he can't see ishita die. ..and that along with both parents literally begging their teen daughter with folded hands to forgive them..made the epi a must watch..
The one line that's been dissected is really a very insignificant one if you look at the before and after of actions. .including those of raman. ..
Raman tomorrow will ask ruhi to call ishita ..ishima..to get her back.. to revive her..if he really blamed her and was not guilty .. wht take the pain of doing all that. ..let her rot in hell for all he cares. ..

Yes cvs are playing a game here..purposely veilimg raman's words and actions like in the accident track... they kept his thoughts hidden toll the climax.. and thus is evident by what they have chopped off from the olvs. .but today's epi certainly doesn't deserve the hate it's getting. ..and esp raman..it's just being blown out of proportion. .given the context. .

Rest ..like you said. .one hopes raman does have a role to play..but looks like he does .. at least from the way both ishra seem to be working together for the battle ahead to get ruhi back...😊



@pink
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it proves it al..

if he had blamed her frm heart for ruhi dn he wud hv nt cared at al for her..
he wud hv said to ruhi dat it ws ishima's fault dn leave her bt nt him..
he vl nt say ruhi to cal her ishima..
rather wud nt hv been sitting beside her too..



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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: bscorp13


Yup that's why context is is important. . When I read tjhe LU..I was pissed. .and was like..not again😡😆
But when I saw the scene..it was like a totally different line, esp clubbed with what he said after...it's like one forgets to put exclamation marks in a sentence hence changing the meaning. ..😛
Ishita once told mani..you can't ever love me as much as raman hates me..that was ishita's way if saying no one can love me with a passion that RKB does. ..
Today raman saying..nobody could have hated her as much as I did for losing ruhi...but today I can't see her die , pining for ruhi...was raman's way of saying he can't even hate her if he wants to..forget seeing her die...😳😛.. because no one can love her the way he does😳

Both lines..ishita's then to mani.. and raman's now to mani..have the same meaning😊





@purple..
WOW..
i loved d way u recalled both lines..one of ishita n othr of raman.. both to mani...
n dey actually make sense...👏

Ur point regarding LUs n watching episode..
whn people write... its dere perception of wat dey watched n conceived..
bt whn u watch dn its ur perception...

n dats d sole reason i nevr hv a look at forum while part 1 of episode ends..
n i wait for clock to striek 8.30 so dat i can watch it online n dn cum on forum to check d reveiws n threads related to episode..
I had a bad experience as once i ws on LU n wid d posts i made a mind bout d episode n dn i cudnt get out of it whn i watched it myself..
ur own opinion gets mixed wid other people's opinion...
Edited by swatica - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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WHOAAA!
The episode left me speechless one one reason and you post gave me another !

How you decode the great RKB!...
Understanding him is one thing but conveying that into words so that others can too is gift. You my darling is gifted!👏

This is my first time coming across your post, seeing the comments I see you do this regularly. I will be looking forward ti reading more!


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Posted: 9 years ago
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I wish they saw Raman or any of the characters like you do. Just my patience runs out even more when they edit out scenes and clearly are very particular in minimizing Raman's POV.
It goes back to same thing, "character progression", they really don\'t want it.

Shagun and Ishita gets POV because it' their show in more ways for cvs.Good vs the Bad.

I think, at this point they need to show Raman beyond just the perceived complexities.Though I feel the time is lost but this again could have been a good call where he would have regretted his words, taken a more proactive approach in getting Ruhi. I don't know, is it just me , who feels Ruhi's reveal is very blah as in they let her go back to Nidhi just like that even after she is proven to be a criminal, even after knowing about the abuses..Ruhi still is a minor , as much as disappointment be there why the heck they left her alone ?. What if the child runs away or does something dramatic..very silly writing there.

It's his time to break free of these crunches and actually act or move on beyond the clichd.But they won't ..thats the frustration . More than Shagun, I feel frustrated of Mani because they try to get reactions of Raman through him which is a very MCP sexist approach and annoys me..why the heck you need him now.

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