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Posted: 9 years ago
#11
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Originally posted by: infinity00

I have no sympathy for any of them , both are absolute shame on the name of wife and husband , lovers , and mostly parents ... Nope I have no sympathy for Raman or Ishita at all.the most unrealistic characters who were once quite real .


I have no sympathy for them either.. But I get their pov ...

about them being unrealistic.. That's given as this is a fictional show... I'm trying to make sense of the characters' behavior within the realm of what's been shown.

I tried to peel out the melodrama, the crass dialogues and am trying to make sense of what's Bering shown.. If I had a disconnect .. Like how I had quit post surrogacy.. I wouldn't even try.. But this makes sense .. Within fictional boundaries ... Sans the extremely low sensing dialogues
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I am not saying that raman is wrong fully
His anger is justified
Coz he lived in guilt from past 7 yrs
Obviously it make no sense . If he see her alive ... He will hug her aur usse apne ghar le jayega...
We knw when he see ishita alive he is very happy we see his feelings emotions that tym
His expression got changed when he see mani ...

Bt the thing is that is his tongue...
Due to his words n wrong accusations...romi left him
Due to his words ... Ishita left him evn try to suicide 7 yrs ago...

After he see her alive he is happy from deep inside evn love her the core
Bt he agin question her motherhood which he did 7 yrs bck...
He knws ishita is vry sensitive in this case
Bt after seven yrs he again ques her motherhood...Accuised her ruhi s death jab ki ruhi k haadse k liye raman bhi utna hi zemedaar hai...
His dialogues which i think koi bhi bhool nai payega
Tum sauteli maa ho
Tum ruhi ko khaa
Tumhne apna also rang dikha diya
Tum toh maa hi nai ho
Tum banjh

Agar koi aur kehta toh ishta bardash kar leti
Bt his ramn said this hurtful things..



Nw he again doing same thing jst to gain her attention... Jo usko bhav. Nai de rahi kynki somwhr usko lagta hai ki woh ye deserve karti hai...usne7 saal pehle mistakes ki hai uske karan ruhi ki dearh ho gyii
Edited by sweet.Aman - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#13
Ishita want speak or blast out till she be free from her guilt of Ruhi death after ruhi truth come out the role will be exchanged raman will face horrible days
Edited by 3fra - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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2 add 2 it, he doesn't know that Ishita has lived in pain these yrs, she rejected Mani's proposal, etc. He can only c her happy atm, so awaiting that turn too.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Agree wid u GAN n SHRAVVS...


bt cvs hv made al dese vry ugly...
its clear he wnts her reactn... her attention...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I give up on Raman ...😕
If this is how a father of 3 kids precisely aged 40+ year old man is shown to behave i wonder where is the maturity of the story or characters.

He not allowing ishita to come near the kids was still justifiable ...the words he spoke to a CERTAIN extent was still justifiable but this for me is officially the death of Raman as a lover/husband/father.

Ishita staying away or acting dead was definitely the most foolish thing to do but Raman repeating the baanj/stepmother thingy again and againot and above all comparing ur wife with ur EX or whoever it is in front of the whole wide world only shows that for him ishita and Shagun are the same.

I have been an ishra lover no matter what but to be frank with all this being shown I really hope ishra never are together again.

Any relationship deserves respect and not just love and in ishRa relationship from raman's side I see that's long dead...the only thing I can say is Ishita has never questioned or insulted him this way in public or private .

Their love for each other is unquestionable but definitely there is no self respect here.





Edited by sarsyed - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Word word..!
While the manner in which this is being dealt with is crass and OTT drama.. you hit the nail on the head regarding the reason..
Strangely ishita has not explained, not accused, not reacted either with anger or disgust or fear or pain or anythinh..
Remembern the time when ishita lost her baby during the miscarriage. .her reaction or rather the lack of it was unusual...its the same here. . And thats why you see OTT Ramam...trying everything in the book to elicit a response..
When you hurt someone or when you are hurting and you retaliate with anger you want to see the impact of b your anger and Insinuation..ishita is strangely placid and yes 'appears' to be living a fairly happy life while he was burning...if only she could speak🤢
Calling her a bad Mom..asking her to stay away from the kids...blaming her for ruhis death..all things he hoped would push her buttons and make her feel hurt.. and respond. .but no.. she has been strangely placid.. and crying but that's it..
So now the next level. . With shagun and his remarriage drama... did you note he even clearly says.. didn't all of you only some time back want me to marry shagun. ..so here goes ..now i will marry her..but alas still no response. .

I so want ishita to respond. .it would have made this track so so good. .but cvs love playing monster vs martyr...even though its now getting boring now..because we all know ruhis reveal will change evetything...it's sad ruhi was needed for these 2 to let it all out l...et's see how long this game evn continues. .🥱😆

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunitas123

Gan, yes it is easy to understand why he is behaving like he is. Even if you give him the benfit of doubt for the OTT dialogues such as manhoos, baanj etc., what he still maintains is that Ishita is solely responsible for killing Ruhi. That guilt is what drove her to suicide and since he is still saying it, there seems no point in reasoning out or saying anything to him. He was clear- he has nothing to do with the woman who killed his daughter!

What can get a reaction from Ishita? Seeing Ruhi alive, only then will she be back to JKR mode, coz she will feel partially absolved of the guilt...


I'm trying to understand the OLV scene ... Why was he trying to burn her clothes after all these years... And decided to get married to Shagun right away...
Why was he defending Ishita's upbringing when defending Adi at the police station?

Why was he so happy outside the police station ...

It changed after he went back... Where he told Ishita ' whoever that guy is to you' ... The fang came out after the realization that she stayed away from them and stayed with Mani and his niece/daughter calls Ishita Amma.. And the accusation came all since that.

Yes he's wrong in saying what made her try to commit suicide that day.. But then she's alive, and her suicide news was delivered by abhishek who Ishita had tied up before to 'fool' them during bhoot track and they bumped in the police station again... And mind you his words are not getting any reaction from Ishita ... So he's hitting below the belt.

Yes Raman is wrong in accusing Ishita of Ruhi's death... Ishita is wrong in staying away from her family and making them think she's dead... And staying away from both her kids The proportions may vary ... But not everything is black and white ...and hence their characters actions are not black and white either.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: jhansi26

I agreed to 100% of your take on Raman.

Yes Raman was on cloud9 on seeing Ishita alive but after that she never acknowledged him in any way. Outside the police station she tried to explain to ACP but not to Raman
. So he is trying hard to know what makes her do so as she will never tell anyone anything. As we know more than anyone Raman knows Ishita more. So he knows how to make the cat out of the bag. May be I may be wrong this is just my POV.

She left her own biological daughter away but she announces Aliya has her daughter and with in these 7 years she never try to contact or never enquired about their daughter.

Obviously the connection with Aliya will be strong as their relationship lasts long than Adi or Ruhi and zero relation with her own daughter.


Yes I noticed that too.. she tried to explain to a lot of n ppl till now., she ran behind acp to explain. .she tried to explain to amma..ran behind her almost...both those ppl were angry with her too..
But she chose to not explain anything to raman that day and even later.😕

He is pushing all her buttons but in the worse possible manner ...

But it's strange i expected a reaction like this from raman.. though the dialogues need a lot of yoning...but ishita I expected would retaliate and we would have a epic face off...but no cvs have decided to drag the actual face off or worse still allow the female lead to play bechaari. .hope it isn't the latter🤢..

On a side note..I do not agree with many ppl on this thread who claim real life couples aren't like this...and such a couple should not exist in real..yes they are toxic..but also real at many levels..
Ok, we may all not face the loss of a child and come back after a seperation of 7 yrs etc..but as someone married for years and with friends who are married. .I would say, most marriages see extremely ugly fights...extremely disgusting n things are said.. and then there are long periods of silent treatment. .esp when the couple loves and knows each other for long. .because sadly the ones who you love. . You also know all their weaknesses .. and in moments of frustration you do end up repeatedly hitting them where it hurts the most...
If the relationship is c strong. . Both partners do reconcile..and do realise that what was said was wrong but only that person could have said such things ...
This is by no means abuse..
I hate the cvs for using tjhe kind of dialogues and making e evrything a public spectacle. ... the same angst and thrashing out in a closed room with only 2 of them would have made a world of a difference. .plus they could have cut the dialogues and just panned to raman's expressions. .KP could have killed it..
Anyways hail cvs love for drama...🤢😕
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I badly wanted Raman to lash out on ishita, but definitely not this way. He died a thousand deaths when she had a miscarriage, and now calling her baanjh, whenever he gets a chance?
I don't think he has any insecurity over mani( just my assumption) . What all he wants is to hurt her. Hurt gets worst when her infertility issue is used. Point out that she did same like shagun, show her that he's not affected by her anymore. Many are telling that cvs are doing this to redeem ishita. But no, Raman behaves this way.
Okay at the end,all is well. Ishra unite, lead a happy life with children. Will ishita again live normally with her children? Sorry sorry HIS children. Raman lashed out on her during adi and his gf track( don't remember her name) After the kaand she did seven years ago, she can't even dare to dream for taking decisions of his children. Both Raman and ishita made mistakes. But why Raman always uses ishu infertility issue to sue her off? Can ishita dare to dream of her own child from here on.
Let him lash out on her on anything but for God's sake not her infertility. That affects a woman very badly, when will he realise? When she attempts suicide for the next time?
I love ishra as a couple,but everytime children define them. That's disgusting. I would have loved it if the fight would have been between them excluding children.

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