sbas/sbs /newsnation segment - Page 6

Originally posted by: Zoyamalik2005

i honestly think ishita is more complex than Raman. her actions have always demonstrated this sort of plea to the world that she just wants to be loved. the minute she felt that slipped away, after it eluding her for years, her finally finding it, and then it being destroyed, the pain was unbearable for her. Subbu treated her like a bad investment. Raman however, slowly but surely gave her security that she will always be loved. then he ripped her apart. ishita is in my opinion, much more emotionally crippled than raman. yes, raman can't function without her, but ishita on the other hand has had to live with the idea that she is unwanted by a man she loves, who is still in this world. raman thought ishita left the world. ishita lived knowing raman didn't want her.


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Originally posted by: -K.13-

Same - I always felt her "jagat mata-ness" (outside of this being a desi soap) was a clear sign of Ishita's insecurity...she overcompensates because she feels that is the only way she will be loved thanks to how she was treated in the past. And I don't think on screen characters picked up on this - Raman early on would allude as to how she needed to be selfish to take care of herself first & started to scratch the surface of this insecurity but never made it deep.

Both IshRa too me are equally complex - it's only that Raman's complexities are explored in depth regularly

I think the problem stems from the inherent dichotomy of desi TV - you want a sacrificing FL who is equally powerful and righteous so after watching many shows - it's clear to see why the CVs only scratch the surface of Ishita's insecurities bc it doesn't fit the mold of a prime time bahu. From the beginning of the show, Ishita was my favorite FL of all other shows I've seen bc she has this deep seated insecurity - it's only when the TRP rat race kicked in that it was hard to fully find this depth of character in Ishita.

As for IshRa - like I mentioned before, I really don't think both of them realize the depth of their impact on the other bc they are so guided by their own insecurities. If the Cvs wanted to bring this to the forefront - it would be a masterstroke allowing for the idea of "Ek Duje Ke Liye" to kick in![/QUOTE]

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Ishita before her realisation she couldn't run away from her feelings for Raman around september 2014, openly engaged in arguments with Raman. she spoke her mind. she told him even at this point actually she disagreed with how the family intended to handle the sarika pregnancy situation. even at this point, she didn't shy away. it didn't matter it caused friction between them. because at this point raman in her opinion showed her no indication he moved on from shaguniya. then this starts to change. she loves him. she knows. he loves her. she now knows. AND BAM. well this was unexpected. ishita and raman didn't think this would ever happen. and when it did. they truly fell in love, the held on so tight. this translated in ishita being the calm collected one. what if she continued to argue and fight with raman the way she used to? what idk this caused too much friction? we often say raman has always been terrified ishita will somehow be taken from him. ishita doesn't show this much through words. rather, she lets him get away with more. i think in some way ishita is slightly responsible for letting raman get away with saying so much of what he does, and letting him off the hook so easily. yes, i loved their confession. but a confession wiped away what he said to her about getting out of his house? ishita was always, maybe even more terrified of losing Raman.. and i thought she becomes a pushover because of it.

i really need ishita in jhansi ki rani 2.0 avatar. if they are going to go only 'ek duje ke liye' ishita needs to have the security that her fighting back is a normal part of being married.

Edited by Zoyamalik2005 - 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Zoyamalik2005

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Ishita before her realisation she couldn't run away from her feelings for Raman around september 2014, openly engaged in arguments with Raman. she spoke her mind. she told him even at this point actually she disagreed with how the family intended to handle the sarika pregnancy situation. even at this point, she didn't shy away. it didn't matter it caused friction between them. because at this point raman in her opinion showed her no indication he moved on from shaguniya. then this starts to change. she loves him. she knows. he loves her. she now knows. AND BAM. well this was unexpected. ishita and raman didn't think this would ever happen. and when it did. they truly fell in love, the held on so tight. this translated in ishita being the calm collected one. what if she continued to argue and fight with raman the way she used to? what idk this caused too much friction? we often say raman has always been terrified ishita will somehow be taken from him. ishita doesn't show this much through words. rather, she lets him get away with more. i think in some way ishita is slightly responsible for letting raman get away with saying so much of what he does, and letting him off the hook so easily. yes, i loved their confession. but a confession wiped away what he said to her about getting out of his house? ishita was always, maybe even more terrified of losing Raman.. and i thought she becomes a pushover because of it.

i really need ishita in jhansi ki rani 2.0 avatar. if they are going to go only 'ek duje ke liye' ishita needs to have the security that her fighting back is a normal part of being married.

Originally posted by: kaa1202

Both Kri & Zoya, u were bang on...

Like Raman masks his pain/guilt with rudeness, Ishita masks her insecurity with Jagatmataness..

Interesting points mentioned by you both.. Nice take..

Originally posted by: -K.13-

Haha thanks - 😳

man I haven't had a legit meaningful YHM convo like this in ages it feels 😆

Originally posted by: -K.13-

Amen - honestly after 2 dafa ho jaos and surrogacy kaand - a secured woman would react but her need to be accepted reigned supreme.

I love how you noted the change in Ishita pre & post love.

I think Raman expected her to stand up for herself...he hasn't used JKR in a while on the show but then used it in his drunken rant last week. He thought she would stand up for herself or just go to her parents' home until he came to appolozie bc that's the expectation that was set in their marriage post-love.

The only way for them to be a half normal couple is if they realize this & if Ishita opens up...Raman can't assume the depths of her insecurities nor can anyone expect him to magically mind read but he does owe her some security so she feels comfortable to open up.

Plus there is an elephant in the room that twice now we see this idea of "Ruhi hai to hum hai" especially from Raman's POV bc he doesn't fully grasp the depth of Ishita's insecurity & love for him.

Both Ishita and Raman show their love in ways obvious To us - either in clear words or actions but they don't trust themselves & their kismat enough to believe it...dhakkans 😆

Originally posted by: ...RamonaG...

thanks for the update dear 😊😊

Originally posted by: nb.neha

I haven't watched the show since long. Can anyone tell wat exactly happened on that day which lead to their separation?