Have the CVs Desecrated 'IshRa' for Good?

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Aani

@EkPahelii

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Posted: 9 years ago

#61

Originally posted by: pomegranate

eh...CV's don't think as hard as us. they will conveniently reunition ishra as if nothing happened, then give us some cute emotional scenes and VOILA! the audience will melt and ishra is happy. all's well that ends well. then of course, shagun will play some dirty trick again. rinse and repeat.

This is how writers deal with every major track.

however, if shagun is back in raman's life if only two take care of the kids then I hope she starts wearing sarees again. I hate shagun but I love her sarees, they were the best thing about her.😃

True that this could all end with them munching on popcorn and icecream as if nothing ever happened 🤔

And I am not kidding here, as we all know...at this point they perhaps dont even remember Shagun was here on the pretext of busting the surrogacy scam and she herself ended up becoming a surrogate in the very same hospital! Like WOW!

Considering that the surrogate herself ratted out the hospital and the doctors when she said they made the fake reports and everything and this is her business, as she has done it before as well. Shagun could have called the cops, had her arrested and the woman would have told the cops everything in lieu of getting some time off from her own punishment but na, who can use that much gray matter

So Now Shagun the surroagate would bust the scam...

I wont be shocked if we learn as per one of the forum theories Ishita was never pregnant in the first place and it was a hoax too...and similarly despite the procedure Shagun may find herself not pregnant or something.

It would be funny though if she is pregnant but with someone else' kid and not IshRa'...wonder what would happen then to Saint Shagun

wonder why do they always fail when it comes to the conclusion of the tracks and always at that, its really a record of sorts for them, I wonder how do they not see it. For all we know Rinki can appear alive again and no one would even be shocked a little and welcome her back with open arms and kisses and cuddle with her

As for sarees, if she comes back in then Alu made the awesome connect - she turns vampy again 😆

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Aani

@EkPahelii

Stunner

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Posted: 9 years ago

#62

Originally posted by: Neetz

Right!!! Its unbelievable what they have done to Raman. I truly feel these people need serious help. bloody retards.

Timbuktu...🤣 Yeah she can go anywhere she wants for all I care. From "mai Ishita aur Raman se kabhi nahi milungi" to giving birth to Raman's kind and acting so excited about it. His relationship with Mihir is already on the verge of being destroyed. Will start today. So yeah he will be alone that way. Aani, my heart goes out to the kids even the unborn child. They will suffer for no fault of theirs.
If the cause of separation is this murder and not surrogacy, I don't know what to say then. I hope Ishita doesn't go into a self sacrificing mode.

Neetz I wouldnt put it past Ekta to pull off anything here since she has managed to make Raman single handedly destroy his marriage of almost two years in less than two weeks

As for the kids...well lets see what happens to them...I am not speculating on the fate of the unborn child as of yet, because if there is really a scam going on in the hospital who knows if Shagun really got some procedure done or if she was just lying there unconcsious for a while and just told you get ready to be knocked up...when its all a scam

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SurabhiA91

@SurabhiA91

Dazzler

Posted: 9 years ago

#63

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Neetz call me a sadist too but I dont see leap and seperation one that happens so easily as the punishment Raman deserves, if a leap and seperation has to happen he should be abandoned by everyone even his kids and Shagun might as well flee to Timbuktu with that possible child...the point is he should pay for this in every way possible and I think with this fiasco even Mihir wont stick around much longer with him...so yeah Raman should hit rock bottom...Krishy you had it right - at this point Raman' ass is worth more on the stake than the villains combined except he falls in second place to Shagun even there 😆

I for once also feel he would be abandoned by everyone i mean we are forgetting alredy exsisting kids ruhi and adi once they know their ishima left them because of papa would they even look at him and same is the case with bhalla family if for some reason he is not able to make anyone believe that shagun is just the surrogate how does shagun land in the bhalla house i doubt that toshiji will never let that happen but then again who knows what crappy reason they come up with to show the non existent triangle.

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Neetz

@Neetz

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Posted: 9 years ago

#64

Originally posted by: EkPaheli
Neetz I wouldnt put it past Ekta to pull off anything here since she has managed to make Raman single handedly destroy his marriage of almost two years in less than two weeks

Neither would I. She is capable of anything and anything she will do will make us mad. True that. He has destroyed everything he ever wanted and even got it all finally but went ahead with this stupid obsession of his and finished it off. I do not doubt his love for Ishita. Never can and never will but iss pyaar ko kya naam doon

As for the kids...well lets see what happens to them...I am not speculating on the fate of the unborn child as of yet, because if there is really a scam going on in the hospital who knows if Shagun really got some procedure done or if she was just lying there unconcsious for a while and just told you get ready to be knocked up...when its all a scam

I so wish this is a scam and even if she got the procedure done she doesn't get knocked up. Pretty please. This won't redeem Raman but I don't want her carrying his baby. I can't get myself to call this baby Ishita's cz she freaking doesn't even know about it.
For all I care, I hope Manoj has put his own swimmers in. Artificial insemination and she gets knocked up with his kid and flee with him and live happily ever after. As u said if she has someone else's baby and not IshRa's, tab kya hoga Kaliaa? 🤣

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zeny_Nian

@zeny_Nian

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Posted: 9 years ago

#65

Originally posted by: Neetz
Krishy, wonderful post. 👏

This is definitely the final nail in the coffin. How bad can it get after this really? I agree with all that you said here.

I don't know what they have planned or if they will change the track or not but the deed is done. The enormity of it all is hitting me again. As far as I am concerned, leap and separation or not but I want Ishita to take a stand for herself and not behave like a doormat. I loved her because she was this self respecting woman more than anything else who has been killed by the CVs but I want her back NOW. Bas.
If she simply forgives Raman out of her love for him or something, she will be butchered like Raman is. Idk but I would feel terribly insulted as a woman more than I already do. Like I can't relate to his obsession in the name of his love for her ,I won't be able to relate to her forgiving self out of her love for him. So, Ishi take a stand woman.

May add more later. Travelling right now and the lousy network sucks. Took me 15 mins to type this much.

well said babe :)

@krishy this is exact what even I want to see no matter what they are upto now after butchering the whole essence of a show like this! I don even care about what they are planing to show now leap/separation/surrogacy/CID/Love Triangle/Love story of their Kids/SaintKatha I juz don give a damm caz this is beyond my endurance now to expect anythng out of this CRAP!! I gave up eventually!! dat doesnt mean I m quitin it right away but I may sumtims catch a episode if I read its worth to give a try, may be out of d delight of DT's alluring performance.

for me ISHRA doesnt exist anymore. they are dead together right after doing IT in their latest rain sequence
now its all about Ishita's sole journey (if only they want to show) vs CVs CRAP 🥱

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-Anku-

@-Anku-

Stunner

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Posted: 9 years ago

#66

Hey Krishy 🤗

I've read so many posts. So many rants, so many predictions on what the aftermath to all of this happening on the show would be. But I've not even gone there right now.

Like I discussed with you earlier. I am not even thinking that far about anything. For me as a viewer, as someone who stands for equality in story, between characters, between man and woman has been disappointed. I disagree with the glorification of just one character and repeated butchering of one to take the story ahead. So for me. I am unable to get over my grouse against the makers for writing women as people who bear everything, who are perfect, strong, have the most will power. As a woman myself I feel pressured that we're not treated as humans.

I love IshRa.. both equally, but I could relate more to Raman for most of the run of this show because he was flawed and realistically so. Basically he had human traits.

Now they are going to as usual make Raman's character a scape goat to justify the separation, to make it happen. Because they cannot make a separation happen due to the combined mistakes or issues of both the leads.

From the start, they have kept Ishita as the bottled one and Raman's feelings exposed to the viewers but then when the time comes, his feelings, his tracks never get their dues. And sadly from a long time even Ishita's aren't treated well. So when the fault lies on the writing table, where the makers only want to cater to woman and feed them with the wrong sense of empowerment. I can't begin to hate on characters I've come to attach myself to for a long time because of that.

Because I know, that if I hate any of them now. Makers will show them bounce back (sufficiently well or not) and then when the time for another twist comes, the ML will be sacrificed once again to justify it. So when they're going to butcher Raman every time.. I rather detach myself from the show.. give a closure to YHM in my head till where I could still relate to it than watch a show where the makers are not justifying all the characters they wrote with the treatment they deserve.

I don't know if I've put my point across well. I am an IshRa fan. Not favouring one over the other.

BUT my point is. The feminist in me feels pressured that writers give so much credit to women for being righteous, strong, always correct, never wrong... eventually making us less humans. So much is being expected out of us, by presenting us in this way. Women need empowerment and equality. Not to be made super beings who can never flaw.

My issue is that every show, every writer (well almost) make it about Man versus woman.. but for me even as a hard core feminist.. equality and balance is the need of the hour. This world, families, relations cannot merely work with one. Man and Woman both make the world and that needs to be expressed through stories...

Who doesn't agree that women are stronger emotionally, the ones to bind a family,to save relations. But just because these shows cater to woman .. does it mean you present men in your shows like this? Do they want woman to hate men in general 😆

They make a joke out of the premises of the show, of the characters they wrote, of sensitive issues like rape, infertility, pregnancy, infidelity. They represent the world in a very one sided way according to me. Fiction gives you the liberty to alter the mundane thought process, make it progressive and liberal. But they start out intending to create a difference and eventually come back to the same age old stories and ideas.

So before I choose to hate characters, even if they aren't real people. I'll choose to grumble, vent and rant about the thought process, mindset and doltishness of the makers who pen down all of this. Who can chose to entertain us with thought provoking content, by enlightening and enriching us with positivity but choose to do what they did to IshRa, to Raman and to YHM.

P.S - And even if the excuse for all of this is to represent woman empowerment. They haven't done that well either. While destroying Raman, they've destroyed Ishita as well. They haven't done one thing the right way. And even if they did. It took ONE week to destroy TWO years of a trendsetting show to convert itself into poop. 🤢

Edited by -Anku- - 9 years ago

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Nidoo

@-Silencia-

Sparkler

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Posted: 9 years ago

#67

Originally posted by: -Anku-

BUT my point is. The feminist in me feels pressured that writers give so much credit to women for being righteous, strong, always correct, never wrong... eventually making us less humans. So much is being expected out of us, by presenting us in this way. Women need empowerment and equality. Not to be made super beings who can never flaw.

My issue is that every show, every writer (well almost) make it about Man versus woman.. but for me even as a hard core feminist.. equality and balance is the need of the hour. This world, families, relations cannot merely work with one. Man and Woman both make the world and that needs to be expressed through stories...

Who doesn't agree that women are stronger emotionally, the ones to bind a family,to save relations. But just because these shows cater to woman .. does it mean you present men in your shows like this? Do they want woman to hate men in general 😆

They make a joke out of the premises of the show, of the characters they wrote, of sensitive issues like rape, infertility, pregnancy, infidelity. They represent the world in a very one sided way according to me. Fiction gives you the liberty to alter the mundane thought process, make it progressive and liberal. But they start out intending to create a difference and eventually come back to the same age old stories and ideas.

So before I choose to hate characters, even if they aren't real people. I'll choose to grumble, vent and rant about the thought process, mindset and doltishness of the makers who pen down all of this. Who can chose to entertain us with thought provoking content, by enlightening and enriching us with positivity but choose to do what they did to IshRa, to Raman and to YHM.

P.S - And even if the excuse for all of this is to represent woman empowerment. They haven't done that well either. While destroying Raman, they've destroyed Ishita as well. They haven't done one thing the right way. And even if they did. It took ONE week to destroy TWO years of a trendsetting show to convert itself into poop. 🤢

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You've said it all that I missed, Anku!

The thought-process behind the scenes is what drew us, viewers, towards this story that appeared to be uniquely treated at the outset. But alas! Its the same dish, presented differently.

The female lead is supposed to be righteous, self-sacrificing, detective, forgiving and hurting all the time, while the male lead is supposed to be arrogant, a scapegoat, and a runner.

What was remarkable about Ishita & Raman was that they were human. They both made mistakes, they both learnt. Neither was Ishita always right, nor was Raman always condescending. It was their combined story, where now its just a collection of tracks which fit neither with each other, nor with the beautiful real-life like characters that used to exist.

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-Atii-

@-Atii-

Rocker

Posted: 9 years ago

#68

K, if CVs ever see this, they won't understand a word of it.

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UNICE

@Annthew

Dazzler

Posted: 9 years ago

#69

Sorry for late comment but thanks dear for saying it all out especially 4people like me who can't express so well in writing. Ishra was something v cherished but the cvs don't care they just want to push Shagun down our throats, now not even Raman can make me watch the serial. It's going the usual Ekta way, all her soaps ultimately go throw the same path. Wish the viewers giv them a good backlash in the form of poor trp, but my experience tells me it won't b that way. Anyway hav to let u know, ur posts is helping me a lot. 🤗