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Posted: 10 years ago
#81
Aani, you just worded everything I have been thinking since news of their many failed consummation attempts came up. I have been and still am caught up in work. I couldn't watch the show properly since March. But the forum has kept me up to date with the happenings. And every time even the talk of IshRa consummating their relationship came up, it has always been for progeny. Just because some never heard of Doctor friend of Raman's said that Ishita could get pregnant. Being in the profession, I know how slim the chances are and thereby I am even more frustrated with the "miracle". And now they are not giving her space to adjust? She wants to experience pregnancy. It isn't about carrying the DNA forward. Why doesn't Raman understand that? For all her strength, Ishita is a very insecure person when it comes to her fertility. They have tried to show her as a brave woman who isn't bothered by it which obviously didn't work out. It would have been better if they ended the show with Adi accepting Ishita as another mother and Raman, Ishita and Shagun together raising their kids which would have been a proper message.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#82
i think dere sumthng more to it... basically raman has gone mad n i think he has got trumatised n ishita is calm.. as its said ki raman ko uske baby ki death ka sadma lag gaya hai n he vl nw by hook or by crook wants a child... he wants it for dem bt he has forgottn d motive he wwanted a child...

Anyways d point i wantd to put forward ws dat.. Surrogacy is on as its pretty clr... bt i thnk ds wud nt lead to dere baby eventually... ds track might b introduced to expose d surrogacy scandal for wich shagun landed up in delhi frm mumbai n thru ds may d CVs wana show hw desperate n majboor couples becum to get dere own child n for dat get trapped in such SURROGACY SCANDAL...

I dnt knw whethr hw much i sounded right to u guys... but jst a thght came to my mind while thinkin bout YHM HISTORY...

WAT ur opinion on ds guys ?????
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Posted: 10 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: -K.13-



That's one of the problems in the pregnancy track. From the get go they seemed to make it baby #3 sirf Ruhi ke liye from Ishita's POV through a large chunk of the dialogs. And now you have Raman wanting a baby no matter the route.

This couple doesn't need a child because neither parent wants it for the right reason. The decision to have a child should've been because they wanted a symbol of their love & for Ishita to experience motherhood. But that isn't what was shown or is being shown.

Their consummation was all about babies & for what? I mean don't people have intimate relations as an expression of love & not just to have children?

Everything that could've been beautiful (and even with drama for TRPs) has been spoiled.


im commenting both f ur reply


to b frank ... i too had a guess it will b ishu who needs surrogacy

ths raman asking really surprised me...

as k13 said ... sirf ruhi keliye ruined the first part f ths baby need...

so both nt matching at all...

these promo dialogues ishu could been so gud wen ruhi started her stupid

stubborn on baby need...

bt everytime... ishRu gets hold then raman comes in

ths time IshRu surprisingly failed... for cvs n tey r nw trying to cover up with raman instead f ruhi 😕
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Posted: 10 years ago
#84
There couldn't have been a better way than your post to tell what a loyal crazy viewers of the hit show are affected by the extremely puke worthy surrogacy track
There hardly holds any defence regarding shagun being the surrogate mother or even for the fact ishra going for surrogacy when the whole root of raising the pregnancy track was just to mak Ishita experience how is to have your baby in your womb so why surrogacy and on the top of it considering g a woman who is your husband's ex has tortured you literally like in every possible way though came back totally reformed as a saint but a human with normal mind can't go for it
I don't think there is a single soul out there who would actually want to see this track
They have literally made a mockery of the whole concept of a woman conceiving
First she is infertile then she has a ray of hope 5% chance to be specific then she again gets to know she because of some complications cannot carry a child and mind it bet day she becomes pregnant! If this was not enough she loses her child in just a week
What the f*** was that really
Is this some kind of a joke
They could fairly show leap of a year or few months ishita going under treatments and then conceiving
Just to fit shagun kill every damn character
Woah congo cvs
You know we are fools
This never was a story of ishraru it was always shagun ki daastan
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Posted: 10 years ago
#85
It's been ages since I saw this show but off and on I do keep a track to see how much of a mess they can make of a bound novel and I am not surprised at all.
The show died for me during the Mani angle, it wasn't about the woman having a friend, a confidante of her own but the way it was used to create contriving angles and dumping down of both leads. I expected a lot from two educated individuals who both had their own share of angst yet their behaviour was so immature . He emotionally abusing her and she with her highly condescending.

I am sorry, i don't really see the outrage here because I have seen worse. Wife-beating her husband in the name of slap-stick comedy. Raman forcing himself on her. But what was far worse , the so called love making- the guy insulted her a in full view in a party, she was almost molested , drugged out in a room but nope , no sensitivity to a woman's plight or her despair at the "what ifs" of her condition but they conveniently made it about so called passion..huh? How can a woman be intimate with her husband so soon, after facing the possibilities of molestation and worse. So why should I lynch Raman for talking surrogacy when the woman never showed me a reaction even after drugged out/almost molested experience.

Not only that, i then saw this lady talk about her sex life with the whole family- his ex-wife. Woah, really? Slow clap. Because that is so progressive, why the heck would you need to rub it on your ex- it's your intimate, moment, special and private .

But then we saw the whole butchering of a young child, because for Ishita it became all about "Ruhi ke liye". Never about her wants, desires of experiencing motherhood. It was rather conveyed through Raman while it seemed Ishita was going through a chore.


Now coming back to this promo, I am not that outraged ..1) it;s a promo . 2) - It's a husband having a conversation with his wife about their need/want/desire of another baby - I like that communication, they might differ on it but atleast they are talking , getting to know where each one of them stands and do they need it really? 3) Because ultimately they both conveniently take out Ruhi ke liye card 4) Is it insensitive of him- well he is been like that since always, in his anger he used to remind her of her condition - funny, that was more insensitive because she took it all and pretended that it was merely a lovers' tiff. 5) they never really talked about family, kids , aspiration- there is a lot of assumption running here and we try to extrapolate instead. 6) Ishita's call- as a wife, she will have to talk about this, present her case. Simple. Rather than silly OTT crying and outrage behaviour, can she act real for once and sit him down and share why she wanted the baby and she doesn't need to have a child to feel the emotion of motherhood . Can this couple ever learn to communicate ?


Personally they both are immature and not ready for any relationship, because they never seem to grow or treat their thing as one unit. They are in it because Ruhi, family and hence they will never separate because story trope breaks down. But that doesn't make them ideal couple or this love story worth cherishing.


All we are left is with a character called Ishita who is Ekta template, all verb , never a noun and Raman , the one to err and err .
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Posted: 10 years ago
#86
Excellent post.. Wish CV's would not have used their so called useless brain
Keep tweeting guys.
Aani di u shud tweet dis or shall i do it?
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Posted: 10 years ago
#87
Thanks all for keeping the discussion going will try to reply when I am a little more free to those who commented recently and so happy to know that I am not the only one who feels disgusted with the very notion of this track let alone see it happen
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Posted: 10 years ago
#88
Just read your post, on point view that most yhm fans will agree with. i feel like i have wasted 1 1/2 years imagining we will see a beautiful ishra journey and we end up with this cr*p.
I am feeling very disheartened with what cvs did to one of the most awaited tracks.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#89
Aani.. I completely agree with you.. We have had different and various stages in the show that were somewhere far from logic and sometimes dont even stood justified but for me IshRa , IshRu, RaRu and finally IshRaRuDi bond was something realistic and something very much original. But introducing surrogacy is not only insulting all the above bonds but also introducing the unnecessary things in their respective lives..
Ohkay the new child was never a dream for them initially.. It was initiated by Raman because he was the one who wanted "the world's best mother" to experience every bit of motherhood by carrying a child in her own womb and feel the warmth of it.. It was his words that he wanted to give her the happiness and it was her who tore the papers then and said she is complete with him and her kids. He was right on his part and she was right on hers.

Basically the core reason was to fill her life with the happiness of giving birth to a child on her own. She had never kept any desire of a biological kid and if she gets to become a biological mother she would consider it as a God's another gift and would have welcomed her with all the happiness and content. There was no difference in her eyes between the elder ones and this one..

And if we think from the point of view of Ruhi though nowadays her behavior is not acceptable sometimes but her love for her Ishima suppresses everything. She wanted a kid for her Ishima coz she did never liked anyone calling her "Baanjh" or infertile. She was protective for her. Though it was shown that she envy Shravu for having a lil sister and she wanted one for own but when she had seen the pain of her Ishima she was upset coz her Ishima was upset not because she couldnt get her a new baby.. So it was a dream of Ruhi for her Ishima not for herself initially but it had been forcefully turned out to be Ruhi's dream by CVs and i dont know when..

If we talk about the family, entire family was very well aware of Ishita's incapability and had accepted the truth with all their love and might. But when they were told Ishita could bear her own child in her womb they wanted her to experience the feeling of carrying a child of her own not because they wanted it but because they wanted her to pass through the wonderful phase of motherhood which id the only one she hasn't gone through..

So it was never for another child, it was always for Ishita's happiness.

But surrogacy is something which is not acceptable at all. If she wont be able to bear the child inside her then what is the need of a surrogate mother?? (Sorry.. I love kids but couldnt stand the way this kid being brought in this world..) What i mean is, she already has two kids who are much much dear to her and are not born from her own womb so what if the other one coming would be biologically her kid..

The Mother Children love is far above the blood relations.. This is what the initial theme of YHM was. And this is why we all adore IshRu and IshAdi bond.. And doing this they are going away from the basic and beautiful concept of the show.. This is something not at all acceptable.. Ethically or Logically incorrect..

I want IshRa to have their own kid but not like this..

Sorry if i said something not appreciable.. But just my thoughts..
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Posted: 10 years ago
#90
@Aani - Agree with your post 100%. I never miss reading your posts..This track is sooo pukeworthy, that it has effectively killed my interest in the show. The story and the content attracted me to this show and through the illogical tracks watched on and off because of KP and Divyanka's acting prowess.
Raman might think he is doing this for Ishita's happiness, but this has been his dream because she was content with their two kids..but he never saw it that way, thought she was making do and not daring to dream..Now in his guilt of not being to save the unborn child and since he showed her the dream, he is pushing towards surrogacy which is an insult to Ishita as a woman. I am not against surrogacy but here they already have two kids and their is no need to take this route. Now he is as obssesed with the baby as Ruhi and is being a insensitive jerk, worse than Subbu ever was.

On and off in their marriage, often felt their marriage was about his feelings, his past, his kids, his family and siblings and I think he feels gratitude towards Ishita that she got the raw end of the deal and feel that he doesn't deserve her and this was the one thing he could give her, their baby. And she lost this in trying to save her family. But what he is failing to understand is it is "Her" family, her kids. The kids and her have accepted each other unconditionally and it is Raman who is having this problem and still sees somewhere that the kids are Ishita's step children and not biologically hers. The whole point was to remove the label "barren" but by doing this he is undermining Ishita's motherly love and she will still be called barren even after surrogacy because she did not carry the child. Looks like both Shagun and Raman are collectively repaying their debt to her by this surrogacy..

I do not know if I made any sense, but for a man who is sensitive of Ishita's feelings, he is way off the mark this time and he is a jerk. Ishita should just walk out of the marriage and leave him and the kids to Shagun since she has become mother india now..and has redeemed herself. God no woman in her right mind would agree to sautan becoming a surrogate, even if the relations were friendly and no husband in his right mind would make his wife whom he claims to love go through this torture and completely kill her self worth.

I am completely turned off desi shows. Thanks for your post and giving us a place to rant..
Edited by Mreddy - 10 years ago

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