Insecurities: His and Hers * Updated* - Page 3

Originally posted by: -Gan-

Any spoiler floating? 😳

there were a couple of articles doing the rounds!

Originally posted by: Viji15

Oh G, love that quote!👍🏼

To me this whole insecurities seems little out of place.I can understand where IshRa are coming from but this is a little late to me which make it unnecessary. Mani time made more sense for these types scenes,This new insecurities so sort of going in reverse of what we saw for the past few months. I was in the belief IshRa has surpassed this insecurities. Viji true ...that completely makes sense...probably the CVs are trying to close that loop now..you never know 😉😆

How can Ishita believe on Shagun words and actually think Raman doesn't desire her. 😕 Did she forget about his numerous attempts during Simbu wedding fisco or even their most recent mumbai outing , he was desperate for some alone time with her.As far as Ive been watching the show it was him who was more vocal about taking the next step. He even asked her if she was ready before the earthquake happened, I'm now wondering what did she nod yes to 😆. Hes been saying it for a long time, I thought she was aware it was the circumstances that kept them apart. What made her fall for the words of Shagun so easily🤔 Doesn't Ishita think? Her Insecurities was forced, Cvs haven't properly gave a good built up, Raman hasn't said anything for her to believe this before. I guess his words after sort of implied the same as what Shagun told her...but why the original feel of insecurities in the first place,is what i wonder This is entirely my feeling, I'm no good at analyzing so I hope I make sense. If you notice, every single time they have talked about taking it to the next level (sans the condom throwing one🤣) it had always been about making a baby...rather than them caught up in a moment of intense attraction...where Raman couldn't keep his his off of her...that might have led to Ishita thinking that Raman's desire for next level was to give her a baby and not because of the attraction, passion he felt for Shagun...I might be over analyzing...maybe it's the CVs' realization that a couple in love, make love just for the mutual love and not for only baby making ...so they are trying to make amends to that by trying to bring this up...yes it's not timed right...but then they were trying to delay consummation and were busy in finding ways to do that and now they are trying to achieve two things: establish intensity, passion, possessiveness leading to consummation and also reiterate that Shagun has indeed turned white...otherwise how come when the leads never get any monologues explaining their thoughts, she gets them? 😆

Raman is a man of emotions its his weakness, but I thought over this 1.5 years he knew Ishita was no Shagun. She would never leave him for another. Him falling for the words of Ashok just like that was hard to take for me. I tried justifying him by thinking of Mrs.Tandon, here is woman who he believed was loyal to her husband and hearing differently from Ashok was hard for him and then he sees Ishita wearing a modern gown, which is against her norms so he reflect back on Ashok's word. But this also imply that Raman's insecurity regarding his wife being snatched from him would never truly go away , he would never fully trust Ishita no matter what senti dialogues he utter in regards to her being different and unique...That realization i had was sort of the journey kill for me. Like I wrote in my main post I felt it was a combination of past and recent events that might have affected his thinking...and Raman has been shown to be an emotional guy who gets affected by others' words...so though Ashok's words affected him...he still told him that Ishita would not leave him and then he sees Ishita and Ashok's words started haunting him...Everyone of us get affected by circumstances...and I felt he's acting out of his own past experiences rather than lack of trust...

I really wish Cvs was consistent with their portrayal of character and story, Ishita has medical background for god sake, her going to a fertility clinic without even doing the first seems like a joke and then the friendship dialogue yesterday was totally a blooper. .I cant help but to feel there is an unnecessary force for events that would lead to leads consummation.I guess this is to bring some tension, some anticipation before the grand act. Its an attempt by Cvs to wipe the baby talk they been stating for as reason to do it and include some passion and desire😳... Why couldnt Cvs just dive into a honeymoon getaway, that would of been better😳 cause I honesty was under the impression the IshRa has come out of their insecurities, they was madly in love and all they needed was some privacy... this kinda broke my delusional world 😆 I couldnt make myself watch yesterday's episode so cant truly comment...but your thinking has some validity...this is their TRP trump card...they cannot just lead to a normal consummation...they have to build it up to make it climactic 😳 Honeymoon get away would probably not be dramatic enough 😉 You know we always complain about CVs taking shortcut to reach to point A...so I dont get upset anymore with any lack of logic these days...so long as I get some quality moments...( yeah that's where my confidence in the CVS is these days ) and today I got some, thanks to the actors' portrayal. So I'm happy.

Anywho, thats just my take. I know DivAn will sizzle with their amazing performance, and it will all be worth the watch! Cant wait ☺️ And I hope CVs dont take any short cut in there...they made us wait...they better make it worthwhile☺️

Thanks Viji...my responses in blue.

Originally posted by: momb24

Beautiful collage and quotes😊and your writeups are always a pleasure to read.

I am not totally buying the insecurity issues from both as many beautiful moments and words have been shared between them for the last few months, and this looks like a set back and little forced. This would have made more sense and perfect if it happened a few months ago. Having said this, I can never fault ishra and divan magic. Yesterday shagun creepy talk with ishita put me off,which for me was to glorify how good shagun is giving sex advice to her ex husbands wife , but today it was a very good episode and as always emotions were beautifully portrayed.

Beautiful quote to begin with, Gan! 👏 so apt! And the collages are amazing. Seeing them made me relive the episode again 😳

I'm loving the entire build-up of passion and emotions since yesterday (where I happily assume Shagun said whatever she did because she's still mean, because I cannot, for the life of me, digest the fact that she wants IshRa to do IT)

Coming back to the episode, it began wonderfully with Rinki giving it to her parents, will make them realize what an ungrateful, gold digger she has become. Stepping stone for family reunion.

Ashok & Raman's conversation. What can I say about this scene! I don't know whether I was mesmerized by the cheap, evilness Sangram portrayed wonderfully or the raw passion and trust KP exuded. They nailed it to perfection! Everything about this scene was brilliant - dialogues, dialogue delivery, expressions, voice modulation, gestures. The way Raman tells Ashok he fought with his father for Ishita, that's how much he trusts her, I had goosebumps.

I think what hit Raman most was the fact that Ishita is, has always been, a docile woman, but she hasn't seen what the outside world is like. Once she does, who knows how she might react. In his heart of hearts, he knows she is no Shagun and she won't change, but this little uncertainty as to how will she react to the world of glitz and glamour combined with his own murky past is what gives way to his insecurities and anger.

When Ishita walked into her room, all decked up in what she thought was her husband's 'type', a little expectant and eager to please, Raman was taken aback. He started seeing that Ishita is now trying to explore the outside world, and his fears came to surface. His reaction on her dress, and her dejection on his words was done so beautifully by Karan and Divyanka. These two are by far the most expressive actors I have seen, with the widest range of emotions.

My heart went out to them during the car journey. Each hurt and broken and caught up in their own dark and twisted whirlpool of thoughts. Their glances at each other, remembrance of Shagun ans Ashok'a words, the hurt and passion, beautiful to watch. As I said in the LU thread, felt like an episode from the accident track. So raw, so intense.

A lot of people are saying that the timing for the portrayal of these insecurities isn't right. Raman and Ishita have come way ahead. I kind of agree to that. But lets take a moment and figure out when have they actually sat down and had a one-on-one with each other regarding their past, and / or shared thei insecurities. Never have they done that. All the previous tracks were left open in this regard, they never gave anything a proper closure. From where I see it, this is the probably only the 2nd time they're acting as a couple, and not as parents / son / DIL. (The first being immediately before earthquake) This feels like a grand closure to all open threads. Emotional C, followed by physical C. IshRa need it big time, and so do we.

Yes the episode was poignant and a brought back memories of real YHM for various reasons...

for raman - yes he trust ishita. tabhi to wo ashok ko dhamki dekar aaya ki agar tu sahi nikla to main puri jindagi teri gulami karunga lkn agar main sahi nikla to tera gosht ka maans sadak ke kutte khayenge aur issi kashmakash mein jab wo ghar pahuncha to usne ishita ko badle hue dekha wo ishita jisne use ek baar mana kiya tha ki main off shoulder dress nahi pehen sakti aur main sirf apne husband ke saamne sexy lagna chahti hun uske hisaab se wo ishita badalni shuru ho gayi aur raman ki insecurities bad gayi

You have said it all with your words and collages. Fabulous yaar... Once again, i couldn't catch the epi. But, i think this is the best buildup for the leads to consummate their relationship. After all those failed attempts, an equally powerful track was needed to show this and cv's have succeeded in giving that.

Beautiful collages and beautiful write up 😃
I loved the episode. I could see just a couple in love struggling with their insecurities and the ghosts of their pasts.
I'm so happy that it will be all about them. About their love for each other and not for Ruhi or Adi or anyone.
As usual DT n KP nailed it. 👏 👏
Am so looking forward to the upcoming episodes
for obvious reasons 😉