Insecurities: His and Hers * Updated*

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Posted: 10 years ago
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"Your perspective on life comes from the cage you were held captive in."
Shannon L. Alder

Update:
It was a beautiful episode of delving into the inner workings of the couple whose past afflicted insecurities came forth again due to the circumstances and tainted their otherwise secure relationship. His doubts about women's fidelity and her feelings of inadequacy in being desirable enough again were aroused thanks to Ashok's and Shagun's words.


Raman has witnessed many a times and has been through a betrayal in the past because of women's frailties in the face of financial security and social ladder ...today he again witnessed one in front of his eyes where he found Mrs Tandon in the arms of Ashok...the one half of the same Tandons whom he had seen happily married with kids...and then egged by Ashok's words he was caught up in a
fight between his heart and his brain..In his heart he knew Ishita was not one of those women who'd sacrifice family for a financially secure life and he said it to Ashok too ...yet somewhere deep down he lacked conviction somewhere...he's afraid of past repeating in his present because of the recent financial struggles they are facing due to the 15 Crore payment to Param. The question may arise, doesn't he trust Ishita? I believe he does...but then he's human too...Once bitten, twice shy. He has also seen how even his close knit family behaved when their financial security was in jeopardy...and Add to that the fact that Ishita is much more to him than Shagun was to him...if Shagun's betrayal left him shattered...Losing Ishita was a scary prospect. It was an electric scene of taut emotions of a man struggling between his trust for Ishita on one and with Ashok's implications and his own demons on the other. Beautifully enacted by both Karan and Sangram.👏





Ishita was still reeling from the sting of Shagun's insinuations that her husband considers her less desirable as she's not 'his type'. Implored by her MIL and sisters she decks up in her husband's choice and walks in their bedroom expecting the usual reaction of surprise, admiration (remember before this every single time she's dressed up in western outfit Raman had been literally blown away)...but instead was chagrined by his apparent censure of her choice of outfit...and Shagun's words were still fresh in her mind...and when she heard the similar words from his mouth...she must have felt gutted.

Little did she know how it looked from her husband's vantage point, who was set in his tunnel vision mode too, thanks to Ashok. Another poignant scene made palpable by on dot expressions of Divyanka and Karan...His struggle on seeing her dressed as 'the socialite' ... her shy anticipation turning into shock to finally being crestfallen when he rebuked her for her choice of outfit and then nonchalantly asked her to accompany him to the party...their every expression just was perfect!👏

And the ride of silence...rather deafeningly silence as each was caught up in their web of insecurities, and yet strong feeling of possessiveness as all they both wanted was being accepted by other...

Poignant episode.
Loved the beginning scene between the parents and Rinki too.

And does it make me sick that I was so happy to see the original Kameena Ashok..the one who always played with Raman's impulsive, emotional nature, back? 😳😆

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Before you update: After watching today's episode... I somehow come to believe that this is a new beginning for IshRa... they are now behaving merely as spouses' rather than parents to Ruhi or even Adi!

On the one hand, where Shagun has planted the seeds of doubt in Ishita's mind; (in an attempt for Ishita to realise that she needs to lure her man) Raman's possessiveness is also coming to the forefront! He wants Ishu for himself and him getting miffed is justifiable to me!

A lot of passion and desire is to follow I hope... with immense intensity!

Whatever, it is... I'm loving it... all due to ... DivAn ... 😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Your edit is superb and the quote; just perfect! I'm waiting for your update ..!!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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G,waiting eagerly for your update.A big favour to ask of you as a bonus tongue-in-cheek collage..Something along the lines of pati,patni aur woh.Please go through the 2 minute ASHRA (Ashok-Raman)encounter in terms of sheer physicality,and then tell me if I'm delusional.

Itna passion to Raman ne Ishita aur Shagun ke liye shayad nahi dikhaya.
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Edited by FantasiaNarnia - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Beautiful quote. It has such an indepth meaning.
Looking forward to ur take on the episode.
For me it was yet another realistic episode showing how at times our past, our inhibitions, our insecurities affect us as well as our loved ones.

Raman's memories of his painful past ignited by Ashok made him rebuke ishita n her dressing sense when he himself has so many times asked her to wear gowns n dresses.

Whereas ishita is hit by an iceberg named Shagun. Everything shagun said about raman not having any kind of interest in ishita was untrue yet it made her insecure. Why? Bcoz of her own low self esteem, insecurities, past.

What a realistic situation where one uttered non sense without meaning it n the other took it seriously without any need.

I liked the scene btwn ashok n raman. Both the actors were really good. Karan's expression were bang on. Sangram's portrayal of cheap Ashok was also done so well.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Oh G, love that quote!👍🏼

To me this whole insecurities seems little out of place.I can understand where IshRa are coming from but this is a little late to me which make it unnecessary. Mani time made more sense for these types scenes,This new insecurities so sort of going in reverse of what we saw for the past few months. I was in the belief IshRa has surpassed this insecurities.

How can Ishita believe on Shagun words and actually think Raman doesn't desire her. 😕 Did she forget about his numerous attempts during Simbu wedding fisco or even their most recent mumbai outing , he was desperate for some alone time with her.As far as Ive been watching the show it was him who was more vocal about taking the next step. He even asked her if she was ready before the earthquake happened, I'm now wondering what did she nod yes to 😆. Hes been saying it for a long time, I thought she was aware it was the circumstances that kept them apart. What made her fall for the words of Shagun so easily🤔 Doesn't Ishita think? Her Insecurities was forced, Cvs haven't properly gave a good built up, Raman hasn't said anything for her to believe this before. I guess his words after sort of implied the same as what Shagun told her...but why the original feel of insecurities in the first place,is what i wonder

Raman is a man of emotions its his weakness, but I thought over this 1.5 years he knew Ishita was no Shagun. She would never leave him for another. Him falling for the words of Ashok just like that was hard to take for me. I tried justifying him by thinking of Mrs.Tandon, here is woman who he believed was loyal to her husband and hearing differently from Ashok was hard for him and then he sees Ishita wearing a modern gown, which is against her norms so he reflect back on Ashok's word. But this also imply that Raman's insecurity regarding his wife being snatched from him would never truly go away , he would never fully trust Ishita no matter what senti dialogues he utter in regards to her being different and unique...That realization i had was sort of the journey kill for me.

I really wish Cvs was consistent with their portrayal of character and story, Ishita has medical background for god sake, her going to a fertility clinic without even doing the first seems like a joke and then the friendship dialogue yesterday was totally a blooper. .I cant help but to feel there is an unnecessary force for events that would lead to leads consummation.I guess this is to bring some tension, some anticipation before the grand act. Its an attempt by Cvs to wipe the baby talk they been stating for as reason to do it and include some passion and desire😳... Why couldnt Cvs just dive into a honeymoon getaway, that would of been better😳 cause I honesty was under the impression the IshRa has come out of their insecurities, they was madly in love and all they needed was some privacy... this kinda broke my delusional world 😆

Anywho, thats just my take. I know DivAn will sizzle with their amazing performance, and it will all be worth the watch! Cant wait ☺️


Edited by Viji15 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Beautiful collage and quotes😊and your writeups are always a pleasure to read.

I am not totally buying the insecurity issues from both as many beautiful moments and words have been shared between them for the last few months, and this looks like a set back and little forced. This would have made more sense and perfect if it happened a few months ago. Having said this, I can never fault ishra and divan magic. Yesterday shagun creepy talk with ishita put me off,which for me was to glorify how good shagun is giving sex advice to her ex husbands wife , but today it was a very good episode and as always emotions were beautifully portrayed.
Edited by momb24 - 10 years ago
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Travelling scenes do something to me, two people silent yet moving at fast emotional speed. G loved the collages! Haven't watched YHM forever but this collage and your write up reminded me of a Gulzar saab nazm, be back with it in a minute. Don't know if it will fit the mood of the scene but just the pain in their eyes and the hurt in puttar's tender eyes made me log in. The vulnerability in Ishita's eyes is so depicting of her state...these two are the best. KP and DT are so good!!!
I wish I still had the connect with the show so i could enjoy their acting.

One of my favorite Gulzar saab's Nazm, like i said don't know if it fits the mood of the scene but your collage and write up reminded me of this brilliant Nazm.

Raat bhar sard hawa chalti rahi
Raat bhar hamne alaav taapa
Maine maazi se kai khushk see shaakhien kaati
Tum ne bhi guzre huway lamhon ke patte torre
Meine jaibon se nikali sabhi sukhi nazmain
Tum ne bhi haathon se murjhaaye hue khat khole
Apni in aankhon se meine kai manzer torre
Aur haathon se kai baasi lakeeren phenki
Tum ne, palkon pe nami sookh gayee thee, so gira di
Raat bhar jo bhi mila ugte badan par humko
Kaat ke daal diya jalte alaawon main use
Raat bhar phoonkon se har lau ko jagaye rakha
Aur do jismon ke eendhan ko jalaye rakha
Raat bhar bujhte hue rishte ko tapa humne

I am not going to attempt to translate this brilliance but in summary, this 'poem' talks about a man and woman with a troubled relationship who are still in love, the talk about this cold night and how they create this fire to keep their 'bodies' warm by keeping the fire burning and throwing their baggage, complains, shortcomings and tears in this fear and almost talking about a cathartic new beginning. I am so thankful Gulzar saab doesn't visit this site or he would be livid with this butchering of his work.
Edited by Eyes-Wide-Shut - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Oh yes, I felt today's episode pretty great. Infact loved it, esp the way its shaping up. A lot of insecurities, fear, doubtful, playing off between heart and mind..Woww!! CVs are capable of many things...

Beautiful collages Gan Di... ❤️

Raman tasted the betrayal once again in the form of Ashok's words. Initially it was through Mani... so its quite obvious he would behave that way. Since he saw Mrs.Tandon in Ashok's arms, Raman was not wrong here. A doubt will arise definitely how much ever you trust your spouse. Beautifully enacted by Karan and Sangram. Aahh how I missed their fights..esp the long ones which we got to see earlier. We got to see our OLD RKB in GUSSA MODE with SHORT HAIR!😳

I felt bad for Ishita. Even-though she got too deeply involved in Shagun's words, she did expect a small kind of appreciation from her husband. What pained me was when she said to her sisters that she is gonna change and it would be better off if she wore a saree or suit.. Awww Ishita.. But Divyanka...Yo girl! She was too awesomeee...👏 That pain she faced for few seconds reached the audience. It definitely touched me...

However I am loving how things are getting spiced up and then leading to 'C'. I feel this is better than booking a suite room and arranging everything luxuriously and then they end up having a fight or get surrounded by the uninvited haddis and wasting all the money!😆 (this is for spl case : IshRa...LOL Real Life, I don't know😉)

Precap did look lile scary but we all know our hero will come..usse pehle JB will come and give him a piece of mind!😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Beautiful collages Gan.
I have to wait a week to watch the episode as I am on vacation and limited internet access.😭

Looks like a good episode

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