Was Raman really wrong leaving the house? *Updated* - Page 4

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Toshiji's enthusiasm is infectious, I must say. I was smiling when she came and was asking them to welcome her and was loving her grandson. And the way she was talking about Ishita was too cute 😳 Goes on to show the bond that these MIL-DIL have developed with each other 😳😳 When she gives, she gives, just doesn't use her brains much and gets blinded easily 😆

Bhalla Ji's hurt was clearly visible in his expressions. I know he's come across as the father discriminating between his kids, listening to half-baked stuff and reacting impulsively, but somehow I feel like sympathizing with him just a li'l bit. From my personal family experience, Ego, at this age, plays a huge role in decision-making. It is almost equivalent to teenage. When you're a teenager, you're dependent on your parents, but you're also exploring your own independence. There's an insecurity fuelled by parental constraints and peer pressure (Adi-Vinni case). Similarly when you're in your late 50's, or early 60's, your kids have their kids, they've grown up, become responsible and started taking authoritarian tone. You feel a li'l lost, suddenly your family stops taking your advice for small issues (or minimizes it), your kids start taking decisions for the entire family which is not wrong, just that you're mentally unprepared because it is that phase of life. Unaware, an insecurity creeps in. What if my kids think I'm of no use? One word, one action is enough to add fuel to this fire inside your brain. Raman's one phrase - "Main ye ghar chalaata hun, yahan vahi hoga jo main chaahta hun" was that fuel. Yes, he's said that multiple times in the past. Yes, he's said it to multiple people. That is where the plot inconsistency comes in. But from Bhalla Ji's POV, his son has suddenly started feeling like he runs the house, he's started ordering married siblings to get out of his (Raman's) house, he's started hitting his younger married & with-a-kid brother - All on the basis of his reputation, or the fact that he does actually support the household. In his heart, he still knows that this issue has now gotten out of hands, but that is where his patriarch & male ego is stopping him from accepting his own mistake, stopping his son's family or bringing him back to his home. No matter how much I rant about his character being butchered, there's still a touch of realism that I am able to connect to.

Coming to Toshiji's inconsistency, when has she not been inconsistent 😆😆 But before bashing her left, right and center, I'd like to praise her one bit - She DID ask Bhalla Ji the same questions she asked Raman. How could he let Raman & Ishita & the kids go? Why did he not stop them? If Raman had said something, why did he not forgive & forget being the elder one? But her husband's words and his tearful eyes are what swayed her away. Wives, especially home-makers, are so emotionally connected with their husband's person and identity, that sometimes they cannot see beyond that sphere. She was logical, until the moment she saw her husband hurt. Her life-partner, who she's supposed to grow old with, who has given her 4 wonderful kids and a lifetime of moments to cherish. For her, his self-respect & tears are at the forefront. Also, again, the old age insecurity comes into play. What if her husband breaks down in this age? Who will support her throughout her remaining years? And I'm not talking about financial support, but emotional support, because that is what is needed at this age. Inconsistent behavior, yes, but with a tinge of realism.

Please don't throw chappals at me because I, at some level, can empathize with Sr. Bhallas 😆😆

But hitting Raman in front of his in-laws, at his in-laws' home, was a strict NO-NO. What if Raman now takes offence at this? Will they again call him high headed now? Thankfully, he considers the Iyers his family, but as Appa once said during MiMi track, "ek aankh ki sharam toh rakhni hi chahiye."

There are 2 people that really, really disappointed me today. One is Simmi, who chose to stay quiet after Bhalla Ji ranted to Toshi ji. The other is Ishita. She walked out of Raman out of obligation of being his wife, not because he's right. In being the great DIL & Bhabhi, how could she ignore his disrespect and the hurt thrown at him, at them. For it was her, who he was trying to defend 2 times out of 3. NO, Raman was NOT wrong in leaving the house.


Edited by -Nidoo- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#32
RES.!!!

There was so much I wanted to say from day 1 about this track but didn't have the chance..

But the Ans is NO.!!! 😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
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haven't seen it- but what bothers me about this track is how they're showing ishita AND how they've got romi (so far) realizing raman's worth. raman's more than just breadwinner- he's also the eldest son who's been there for each of the family member whether it was to get romi out of his many pangas to letting param stay for simmi
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Ramblings updated on page 1. 😃
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I read quite a few takes on this episode before watching and thought the worst but I am glad it wasn't as bad as I thought. What i think they were focusing more on was raman leaving the house and ignoring the reason why he left. Maybe it was for extra drama that everyone kept quite about what transpired before he went. I am hoping toshiji finds out and we have a proper realisation from Mr bhalla that he wasn't fair on Raman and both Mr and Mrs bhalla deal with both Romi and Rinki for disrespecting their elder brother and his wife, although olv are showing something else ..Maybe it will be better than what was shown.
I actually really liked ishita and toshiji conversation,I ignored the 'ego' word and how nothing of what happened was spoken about, but like i said before, that i think is the CV's idea of adding extra drama, even thoughh it kind of ruined the followup from last week.

In the real world feuds like this mostly never get resolved, it's like a domino effect which continues and bitterness is always there and even when people show they moved on, months or years later someone will bring it up again.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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updated the post...sorry got distracted by the 'surrogate' spoiler 😡
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi Gan,
Beautiful you have captured Raman emotions very well.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Gan - your collage gives me even more pheels.

Today's episode really had some gems in terms of expression & acting especially of KP, DT, & the kiddos!

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: mayasundar


Hi Gan,

Today was an okay episode for me. For most of the parts I did not like it but for the story to move on they need these types of episodes

I will start with things I did not like in this episode.

Ishita was definitely wrong when she said Raman took this decision based on EGO. I agree she was partially correct when she said he took the decision based on anger and the next word should have been HURT not EGO.

Toshjii acted like a wife not a mother. I am okay with that but I am not happy when she questioned Ishita why she stood by her husband when she can say nothing matters in the world except Bhallaji why doesn't the same rule applies to Ishita.

Bhallaji said that Raman went out because of his ego and doesn't care about his siblings and parents this shows he did not even understand his son and he did not tell what has transpired entirely to Toshjii. I gave him benefit of doubt during Rinki because fathers tend to protect the daughters more than the son. I would have been okay with him when he supported Sarika as a DIL without knowing the full information if he had supported Ishita when he was there from the start so for me it still feels that Raman transferring the company in Ishita name is the main trigger for him to hate Ishita and to have his insecurities surface up again which turned into a ego clash with his son even when the son tried to apologize he did not listen and one word from him Raman would have stopped from leaving instead he went inside the room and know blaming Raman for leaving the house in unacceptable.

I was okay with Toshjii coming in and slapping Raman because as a mother she has the right but she should see the place and people surrounding him he is not just a kid but a full grown man with a teenage kid on his own and she is also a wife who could not see her husband crying because of him but once she vented out her anger she should have found at the root cause of the problem but still I am keeping my hopes tomorrow she will get to know all of it if she does not and still blames Raman I am going to be mad. On a side note if Toshjii can act on her impulse and be angry with Raman why cannot Raman be short tempered.


Things I liked in the episode.

Raman even after getting slapped from his mother in front of his in-laws in their house did not say a word what made him take the decision but took all the verbal and physical slaps he got from his mother burying his hurt and respecting her. I was wondering when Toshjii said Bhallaji never says he his hurt to anyone I was wondering is she the same women who told Ishita and Bhallaji Raman never shares his hurt only his pillow know so why can't see understand him now for him to move out something major must have happened in her house.

Ishita suppressed angry look to Romi when she asked him to leave the room. I hope she keeps the suppressed anger on Romi and not forgive him easily. I also liked the fact she asked Simmi to leave and asked Bhallaji to leave with a please.

Ishita saying she wants to unite the family as she knows Raman won't be able to survive without his family but for once I want her to stand up for her husband hurt against her nature. She easily forgives everyone this time around she takes a stand for husband and not forgive his siblings easily that doesn't mean she does not do the deed of a perfect DIL she can do that but stop forgiving people easily and loving them.

Adi and Ruhi conversation was the highlight of the episode how a younger sister can bring in peace for her elder brother turmoil even though she has the same worry in her heart but in contrast to the adult Rinki who is the younger sister but bringing in trouble for her elder brother.

In answering your question Rama was not wrong in leaving the house but I hope at least Simmi will tell the whole situation to Toshjii tomorrow as she has been shown as the neutral one because Bahallji, Romi,Rinki and Sarika are all baised and IshRa won't open their mouth against any of them even when they know all of the them are wrong because that is how much they love them.

Toshjii should know the entire situation before she forms any kind of opinion and not just try to patch up the kids without making the younger ones realize the need to speak with elders with respect and Raman to control his anger and Bhallaji to be fair.


CV last week has shown a wonderful episodes starting of this week is not so great I seriously hope they give justification to Raman hurt instead of making him at fault for leaving the house.




Great post Maya .. Even I didn't like the use of the phrase 'ego' .. Raman did not leave because of his ego.. But because of his hurt, like you sad.. The man who grabbed onto Ishira for comfort was completely devastated by the actions of his folks.. It was not his ego.

I still liked the episode because frankly emotional outburst of Toshiji is very realistic in Indian families where it's kinda expected that children will be blindly respecting their elderly parents.. As if it's their duty to do so and actions like Raman's , irrespective of the reason , is seen as a disrespect for that institution of unconditional respect. Sorry if I sound sarcastic but I truly felt bad for Raman today.. Especially being slapped in front of in laws
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: s_kavya



Raman was not Wrong leaving the house ...

Gan agree with you and Bang on points you have written .. all are enough to justify Raman's action of leaving bhalla house... if a man even after doing so much for family.. loving his siblings and taking care of there every little thing fulfilling there each demand gets rude behavior.. MU and blamed for no fault then what he supposed to do ? Ok agree Raman shouldn't have talked to bhalla ji in high tone.. but then what Mr bhalla done with Raman was Not at all fair first he reacted against Raman without knowing entire matter what happened between Rinky ishu.. he reacted on Raman about to slap Rinky and telling its his house. And that expenses.. ok there he gets benefit of doubt that he was just knowing half truth but then did he tried to know what actually happened .. No... here also Raman let out his ego his anger and tried to apologise to Mr bhalla but he didn't paid attention...

Other scenario when Adi got slapped by sarika(she may slapped him by mistake) there also Raman was right defending Adi as Adi didn't done anything intentionally it was by mistake.. there also without knowing entire matter Mr bhalla took sarika's side as she is bahu now.. then why he didn't uttered a word when romi was talking to ishu in such rude manner when he was insulting ishra why he didn't said anything to romi ? He was totally unfair to Raman and ishita... Raman didn't take a impulsive decision he forced to take that step as his siblings his father were not listening him or not understanding him.. what can he do when his wife get insulted.. what can he do if his wife get questioned without any fault of her ?

Even when ishra were leaving the house they were watching at Mr bhalla with the hope that he may stop them but he instead went from there.. today Mr bhalla said Raman don't care for his family his siblings .. he has ego and blah blah i was like 😲 what he is saying does he know his son really ? Raman taking care of everything in this family .. what romi has done till now ? Again Mr bhalla was really disappointed me..

As for Toshiji first she have to know entire matter.. how ishra got insulted by romi Rinky how they got unfair treatment by Mr bhalla.. she slapped Raman its ok(Raman doesn't deserve it) being mother she thought his son did mistake and done that .. and being a wife her husband's tears may have hurt her as she said anyone doesn't matter to her more than Mr bhalla.. she was panic.. angry.. hurt cause of whatever happened but I hope after knowing entire matter she also make bhalla ji understand that he was unfair to Raman.. and Raman ishra were not wrong.. and please one tight slap on Rinky's face that girl is really getting on my nerves 😡 going by precap she knows what Rinky's intentions are hope she teaches good lesson to Rinky...

I am looking forward for coming Epis.. and I totally support Raman's Decision of leaving bhalla house and ishra here 😳


@ bold I truly hope do kavya... I want her to give Bhallaji a lecture about 'ego's and Romi a refresher course about the past kaands for which RaMan had to side with Bala and mihir,, because that was more of an automatic choice of being on the right side... As Romi truly deserved to be jailed in both the kaands. It was Raman who though punishing him, ensured he gets forgiveness from both Bala and Mihir ..

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