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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: fullhouse

Loved it loved it loved... Very good episode.. Showed the elements of a parent-son relationship.. Absolutely awesome episode👏👏👏



Full agreement on your quote.. And all Toshi ji said to Raman was 100% correct.. Bhallaji is the head of the family... So what if Bhallaji misunderstood Raman (although all his accusations over Raman are correct like Raman being rude), Raman's ego, self respect cannot be above his father..

Raman actually is suffering.. He needs treatment.. Toshiji is right that in the moment of heat, he just goes crazy, takes wierd decisions and expects his family to tolerate him.. I hope after this incident CV's do show raman having some control over his anger
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: zackey_boy



Full agreement on your quote.. And all Toshi ji said to Raman was 100% correct.. Bhallaji is the head of the family... So what if Bhallaji misunderstood Raman (although all his accusations over Raman are correct like Raman being rude), Raman's ego, self respect cannot be above his father..

Raman actually is suffering.. He needs treatment.. Toshiji is right that in the moment of heat, he just goes crazy, takes wierd decisions and expects his family to tolerate him.. I hope after this incident CV's do show raman having some control over his anger


I agree Raman gets angry and sometimes reacts impulsively. But I do not agree that Bhalla ji was correct. In any OTHER situation if he pointed that out I would agree also. But did Mr Bhalla see how his younger son Romi reacted.The words he spoke, the accusations he made. We give him a leeway for not scolding Rinki because he didn't hear the whole conversation. But when Romi barged in and insulted all and sundry he never spoke a word.

He in this track has in a way been one of the main causes for not just Rinki to believe she's right, but even for how Romi behaved. If he had been fair and trusted Raman,this wouldn't have happened.

After all Raman has always been given all the duties and he does them all without a flinch. With duty, comes authority and he has always taken on the role and Mr Bhalla trusted him then, so why not now?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Anku-

Just wanted to add. It's just been one episode since Toshi has come and although I don't trust her with her decisions at all. For now I am trying and keeping faith in the track. They are showing a lot of elements in this track, from parenting, to family feuds, to younger siblings taking the elders for granted, the miscommunication between father and son etc. Nothing is going to solve in one day it seems, and there might be times that it'll get worse too. But for now the track hasn't really disappointed. It's only impressed.



I am in agreement...They have not messed up till now in this track...While I don't agree with Toshiji's words...her reaction was not out of the blue...Toshiji is like Raman or rather the other way round where they react from their emotions and express what they feel in all honesty without mincing the words. It's a debate whether we agree or not with her words, but it was within her character sketch. For me that is more than enough as we have seen months of illogical tracks...this track has the heart and the feel of real...which makes me a happy customer.

Sorry I'm not being able to respond in order or everyone now...as it's work hours ..😳

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Posted: 10 years ago
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First time everyone agree that Raman was not wrong
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: zackey_boy



Full agreement on your quote.. And all Toshi ji said to Raman was 100% correct.. Bhallaji is the head of the family... So what if Bhallaji misunderstood Raman (although all his accusations over Raman are correct like Raman being rude), Raman's ego, self respect cannot be above his father..

Raman actually is suffering.. He needs treatment.. Toshiji is right that in the moment of heat, he just goes crazy, takes wierd decisions and expects his family to tolerate him.. I hope after this incident CV's do show raman having some control over his anger



I'm sorry I dont agree with you...every individual has right to self-respect. Raman was not reacting from his ego, that was more Bhalla-ji's reaction based on the assumption that Raman was acting like that because he pays for everything. And head of the family is NOT god that they cannot make mistakes...and if and when they do, it is also their responsibility to make amends to keep the balance of the family intact.

While I agree Raman has anger issues, what I dont agree is he takes weird decisions based on that...If you feel he does, please list those decisions? Infact he has always been shown to side with fairness, sometimes going against his family for that...and also standing by his family when they needed his support.




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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Gan-



I am in agreement...They have not messed up till now in this track...While I don't agree with Toshiji's words...her reaction was not out of the blue...Toshiji is like Raman or rather the other way round where they react from their emotions and express what they feel in all honesty without mincing the words. It's a debate whether we agree or not with her words, but it was within her character sketch. For me that is more than enough as we have seen months of illogical tracks...this track has the heart and the feel of real...which makes me a happy customer.

Sorry I'm not being able to respond in order or everyone now...as it's work hours ..😳


Totally. I do not agree with Toshi ji's words AT ALL. But I do understand where her anger stems from. She was disappointed and she vented. And in doing that she did exactly what she accused Raman of in a way 😆 Now we know where Raman's anger comes from..

I was just trying to find a valid explanation for her behavior and for now I seem to understand it. Although I do not agree with anything she said.

Raman has always taken on every duty and never left his siblings/parents to feel the brunt of any pain or tough times ever. He's always been a dutiful son, brother, father and now husband. So for both the parents to just lament that he left without discussing what lead him to do so is disappointing.

They expect a bit too much out of him. He should solve all problems, pay and earn for everyone, take on all the duties and then at the end not do or say anything at all? That's not how it works. There's only a limit till where anyone can bear anything. And if Raman reached that breaking point no one can hold him for that.

So yes I give her the benefit of doubt for the way she reacted, but do not agree with many of her statements.

And please don't be sorry. I completely understand. 🤗
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I am really loving this discussion in this thread... well i may be frustrated by bhalla 's unfair treatment towards Raman .. but then remembering Aani's post where she said how YHM showing different aspects of parenting be children are kids or adult .. first how they showed ishra learning to parenting growing up teenage Adi.. and now this Mr bhalla and Raman .. its nice to see CV 's throwing light on such realistic issues in joint families... this track have been Amazing till now .. enjoying the Epis.. Hats off to DT.. KP.. and entire cast who taking this track to another level with there brilliant performances 👏

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Agree with you, today's episode and toshi's rants were not appropriate as Raman was not wrong. Only small concern against Raman is they shouldn't have left the house.
Coming to the episode at least Toshiji should have been told what the real scenario was rather than blaming raman. Poor thing after all injustice shelled out to him he deserves his loved ones understanding what he is going through and standing by him because he is right and not only because he is their loved son and husband. But I guess these finer points are often overlooked by the cvs.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: beckysharp

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Hi Gan,
Was Raman right in leaving the house ? Absolutely. There is only so much a person can take. He had reached the end of his tether, what with continuous accusations and insults being hurled at him and his spouse. Being misunderstood by not only his younger siblings but also by his parent, who had previously too (when he was married to Shagun) stopped speaking with him due to Shagun's manipulation.

Was Toshi right in chastising Raman for leaving the Bhalla house ? I can understand her chagrin. Because she knows her son. She knows he is the only one on whom she can rely. Raman has his faults but, his whole family knows he can lay down his life for them. Toshi also knows, that Raman is the only one she can rely on as support for Mr. Bhalla and herself in their old age.

Were Raman and Ishita right to keep quiet when Toshi was giving them a piece of her mind for leaving the house ? Absolutely. Because under no circumstances would Toshi have listened to their explanation. Rather than aggravate the matter, it was wise that they kept shut and listened to her rant.

Is Ishita right in wanting to speak with Toshi and get the family together ? Absolutely. Why ? Because she realizes that Raman will only be happy once he is back with his family. He is your quintessential family man, who lives and breathes for his family. For all his so called anger and rude behavior, Raman loves his family. He is unhappy being away from them. The family is unhappy that they have left the house.

Raman and Ishita, both are very similar in their love for their family. If Rinky walks up to Raman and apologies, Raman will definitely forgive her transgressions. He is that kind of a person. He loves his wife, parents, siblings, children so much.

The only outcome that I want from this track is that the whole Bhalla family, realises the value of Raman. What he stands for. Who he is and what he does, to which extent he can go for them.

The only two people who really know and understand Raman are Toshi and Ishita. That is why, in my pov, every time Raman screams at her, Ishita forgives him and does not take it too much to heart is because she knows for all her aggressive, abrasive, nasty words, her husband is inherently a good and wonderful man and human being.

Finally, puttar fangirl in me rises to the fore ! I tweeted a lot of nonsense in Gujarati to Puttar in hopes now he does not block me !

I actually tweeted Hallelujah to him for cutting his hair !

My reaction to puttar and his haircut ! Hallelujah !






I think the best post I've read in days. @Beckysharp - I've never asked you your name. I'd just like to say, that I love reading your posts and you have one of the most balanced and unbiased view points. 👏 👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Bhallaji's ACTIONS made Raman and Ishita leave the home and he is absolutely NOT WRONG. I stand by him. He and his wife bore all the insults that was thrown lately and without hearing their part, everyone insulted and maligned them.

Toshiji lectured without knowing the TRUTH, so I would not say anything, but I still stand by Raman.

As you say, Parenting needs to be fair at any age...

My most fav today was Ruhi-Adi conversation. How the little girl controlled her brother's turmoil by hiding her own worries and fears. A mini Ishita I could see. This is what I call maturity at a certain age. Rinky should learn this rather than create fights and misunderstandings everywhere just by listening to her "firangi" dost! Sick Rinky.🤢

IshiMa-Ruhi conversation was just <3 :* *emoticon not loading*!

I liked that fact that Ishita and Toshiji are planning to reunite them, but I would also want everyone to know the REAL TRUTH and not assuming stuffs.

I liked the Precap...!

Puttar cut his hair.. OMG!!! Khushiii momenttt! Yayayya!😳😳😳

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