What was Ishita expecting in the CCTV footage ? - Page 3

Originally posted by: serendipity.

i totally agree, maybe in the hurry that i was in, i didnt put my point across that well. Raman is wrong, again... VERY wrong, my point is... and this is directed to the writers and CVs... they have ALWAYS shown Raman to be like this... him saying this yet again was a disappointment but nothing too surprising whereas Ishitas sudden behaviour towards Adi... definitely surprising. Yes, i dont relate to Ishita... many a times i dont... but then, many times i do... and whatever this is... WHO IS THIS ISHITA? shes WEIRD, i dont know her 😳 her actions ESPECIALLY as a mother are not justified. Two wrongs never make a right, since the onloc had come two days ago, i was only discussing with friends how BOTH deserve an apology from each other, both SHOULD... HAVE TO apologize.. but we never get that :) its always either its all buried under the hatchet, like it never existed... or Raman kinda apoligizes... i dont want either! especially the former! But again, my point stands... what Ishita did is just unacceptable. its crazy :/ and i hope she realizes that... & Raman needs to realize too, he cant be doing this each time and get away with it

Also, why Ramans action or words didnt affect me more was because, im sorry, even ishita doesnt properly EVER react. Again, the writers fault. You said ishita is the most 'sensitive' about this... tell me WHEN has she reacted the way she was supposed to? she has always been so understanding and forgiving.. i would want her to stop being that and for once be a normal woman, a normal lover, a normal WIFE... i want her to be hurt, to actually give her husband the proper silent treatment he deserves till he realizes, feels guilty & apologizes... since it doesnt affect Ishita herself much 😆 now that ive seen it enough times... why would i overreact at or overanalyze his words?

Originally posted by: -K.13-

Truthfully if Adi does do some kind of kaand now - it won't surprise me, but it will be the result of this CCTV. Raman has been lenient & ignore the maternal angle to raising Adi, but if Adi started to make dumb decisions bc of just that - it would take a little longer to build up that "my dad is okay with it" mentality.

Adi has hands down made mistakes in the past, but by secretly putting up a nanny cam...Ishita pushed him away from her. He felt guilty about the fake phone call, which shows he does have some introspection. He is a 12-13 year old boy, and the fact of the matter is he will not understand Ishita's POV. Maybe later on he will realize why she did this, but if things go on like this...their already fragile relationship may be too far gone for repair.

Ishita needs only to apologize to Adi & talk to him. I understand what Indu was saying that by not involving Raman, she almost showed distrust to him too...but Raman has always been harder to work with so I can understand her not wanting to go to him. Unfortunately Ishita & Raman both need to learn that parenting isn't a one person show.

Originally posted by: -II-

@bold - You are right about Raman, Krishy. Ever since the party and Vinni issue happened, he has been constantly brushing off Ishita and disregarding all her concerns saying she is overreacting, so I see what you mean there. And Raman would have never agreed to act upon the thought. My perspective probably comes from my own personal outlook as a parent of a tween. I cannot relate to a scenario where I would consider hiding stuff from my husband, especially a matter as big as this.

I agree with you, parenting is definitely not a one person show, and being a parent is the hardest job you will ever have. Raman and Ishita need to realize that they both are in this together. Disagreements are bound to occur. They need to understand and respect the importance of each other's contribution to the children's upbringing.

Like I have mentioned in my earlier posts too, just because Ishita is in the wrong it does not invalidate or discount Raman's mistakes. He was absolutely wrong to hide things from Ishita and encouraging Adi to think that it was okay to do so. Just because one makes a mistake does not mean the other's mistake can be overlooked. Both are wrong in this, and I really hope each of them realizes and acknowledges the severity of their mistakes.

They have always shown Ishita to think as a mother first and then as a wife. She has always priortized her children's matters in front of Raman's desires. Many a times I have wished to see her giving more importance to Raman, to be more expressive about her feelings for him, like he is with her, but this is just who she is. Keeping that in mind, when I think of Raman's words to her in anger from the precap scene, it saddens me so so deeply..my heart goes out to Ishita.

Lol..at this point of time I would like to blame the newspaper article..😆😆 but even I couldn't quite get what she was trying to do by placing a cctv camera in the room..snoop on the kids..maybe situation and circumstances made her misunderstand but what she did was wrong..I dont want to defend her..whatever the reason was,it was wrong..but neither was he right in the way he blamed her..he was way too harsh..and as always went overboard in being rude..Not calling her a mom..when clearly she was the one who just saved his sons life a few days ago..Both are at fault..As usual CVs will make a mockery of feelings and make it resolve without even discussing it.. And if this is the way preparation for big C is being done..I must say its quite apalling..😕😳

Originally posted by: beckysharp

Hi Gan,

Once more a disclaimer... I have not watched the episodes so I am just winging it from the posts and various discussions. I am sure to receive chappals from all for this ! As I have a very divergent view !Becks you know Atleast in this thread divergent views are not given chappals 😉

May I put forth my perspective ? Yes, Ishita is extremely wrong in putting the nanny cam in Adi's room. 100% wrong. But is Raman right in hiding things from her ? Lying to her and sending her to the spa ?My take on this has been very clear... Both sides have done what they thought was right from their perspective... That's why I said after yesterday that their actions were counter-sync with each other.. And I saw it as human error but I could get where they were coming from .. Ishita was being over protective as she wanted Adi safe and Raman was trying to give his pre-teen son some breathing space. But today the nanny cam was too extreme, as they say the punishment should fit the crime... Yes Adi lied .. But for that a nanny cam to monitor him? That's extreme to me by any standard .

Until now, who has been at the receiving end of very devious planning of Adi ? It has been Ishita ! And how did he end up putting Ishita into trouble every time ? At the instigation of others.

Do we recollect all of Ishita and Adi interaction's ? They began with Adi manipulating Raman into getting Ishita to apologize to Adi n Shagun ! To being unrepentant for almost killing Amma, to sending Ishita the incorrect address of the bachelor party to burning himself and getting her thrown in jail, to taking overdose of Toshi's medicine, etc.

Let's put ourselves in Ishita's place just for a second ! Even if I am the greatest jagat mata I will forgive him yes, but will I forget it ? This cctv/nanny cam is drama yes ... But, until now we used to keep saying ishita is jagat mata, when she is being a very fallible human too she is getting brickbats !

Yes, Ishita and Adi's relationship is very new... They are just learning about each other... It needs to build but if you were in Ishita's shoes would you so easily trust this boy ? I get that in the past Adi did all those kaand's and Ishita had been at the receiving end of all thoset... But then their relatiinship also has evolved since then ... I get that Ishita's doubts are legit .. And I would have been totally at peace with her being over protective if she had not acted cool in front of Vinny, or had she asked them to sit at the family area and do their work...had she not had second thoughts about her using the nanny cam.. Yes it is for drama ... But I always react to what's shown onscreen .. And though till yesterday I related to Ishita, today I couldn't. I understood her perspective, but how she acted on it was not relatable. And I always find Ishita and Raman as interesting because they make mistakes... That gives them the human edge...about brickbats .. That some people will throw no matter what.. That's how the forum works .

Raman wants to be a cool dad is absolutely fine, but not at the cost of his relationship with his wife ! He only pays lip service when he says he wants her to be his ishima... He actually doesn't.. he gets angry ... Could he not try to explain his point of view the same way ishita explained the need for psychiatric help for Adi ?

Does being immature n impetuous solve anything ? Does asking your wife to get out n not come back is right ?

Does rubbing it in that she is not the biological mother right ?

What does Ishita have to do to prove her worth in the eyes of Raman Kumar Bhalla ? Conceive a child ?

Raman has a blind spot where Aditya is concerned... He does not want to lose him after getting his custody... I get it all... But not at the cost of Ishita, who as shagun rightly pointed out is nothing but a glorified ayya / nanny !

No disagreement there ... Raman was out of line and needs to curb his tongue before it costs him his marriage ...

Adi needs strict discipline... There are children who need to be tightly reined in and adi is one such child... N if ishita has to be over protective so be it.

I speak from experience, if my mom had not kept me on a tight leash I would have been a total lost cause ! Not that I am a goody two shoes just now, I am not... But I am not as bad as I could have been if my mother had not watched me like a hawk !

I hope not .. Adi was shown to have redeemed himself and since then has acted as a normal pre-teen... even in this case he had tried to come clean... Based on what they have shown till now, he seems to be a normal kid since his change... The cvs might turn him back to Shagun's evil spawn to fit some theory ... But for me Adi till now seems ok.. Yes he needs guidance as all kids his age do... Rebuke him for lying .. But at his age they are also curbing their own niche... So they need a bit of breathing space too... Raman and Ishita together need to set some boundaries and let him know that on a one on one basis... Not in front of his friends... That's embarrassing for kids his age.

Now I am ready for chappals ! Make sure you guys throw a pair and may I request a pair of either louboutin, or Jimmy choo ! Disagree we may but chappals Hell no .. Come on you know us this much . . Great post :)

I haven't watched the episode yet and I don't intend to.
Seeing the reactions, I have a fair idea of how ridiculous the episode would have been.
First, Ishita. She is very much wrong. The cctv thing is definitely wrong. Her concerns and all are relatable but just that one action of her putting cam is somewhere down the line not her. It's very unlike her to be so disrespectful and negligible towards a kids feelings when she is shown to be the most sensitive and caring towards children. So yes, it's very disappointing to see her resorting to such stuff. But I'm glad she is making mistakes, makes her human enough and not DEVI as some people say. Though now I am curious to see how this effects Adi and Ishita, it will be good to see her apologizing. The action was dumb and impulsive but not out of bad intention. So that's that.

Secondly, Raman. It breaks my heart when he utters such words. What's the difference between his harsh words and Subbu's mom.? :( Ofc, I am not comparing the characters but just the words :( Others use the word "Baanj" and puttar says it just more subtly. But it implies that she can never be a mother. At one point, he says he wants to give her their child, why she is not the biological mother of his kids then says stuff like this. Why man.?? Yeah he has been shown with anger issues, it's his character to get angry but it's NOT his character to hurt her the most brutal way he can. Mocking her motherhood.
No, that's not my puttar. I will give it to his anger, yes he's justified in getting angry because her actions are wrong but not uttering those words. He had his way of dealing with Adi, he disagreed with hers, it could have been put a better way. Yelling would still be tolerable, but the words like " Tum Maa Nahi ho " it's not right.

There as another thing I didn't like ever, never will. Their hiding business. They never discuss. She spies on the kid and he hides stuff from her and supports the kids by sending her off to a spa. Why can't they just discuss for once.? Would it really kill someone to show them discussing Adi issues.
Somewhere I get them both, he wants to give Adi his space but then waving her concerns off as over reaction is not right either. So in a way, her not telling Raman about the concerns are relatable knowing he may just loose his cool.. but like I said, the cctv action is not :(

Both are wrong for me, her actions and his words. If she took it a level, he took it to another again :( And now I am not even expecting a talk between the 2, knowing we never get any. So I'll not expect, will hurt less.
We have the Vandu baby now and then C night, so let's forget today's episode happened for our own sanity.

Besides that, the crazy fan girl in me is as usual waiting for their big night. Yes I'm Hopeless.. LOL.!!

Parenting was one side of the issue and the other to me was the love he has for his kids. I am not doubting RKB's love for his kids and he would bring the stars for them but its all about the difference between Ruhi and Adi.

When it comes to Ruhi, puttar is fine with the decision Ishitha takes and also takes decision like sending Ru to Shagun for once not thinking about Ru and her feelings. All he wanted was Adi to stabilize well. He for once did not care about the heart of a 7 year old. That was the only thing I could think about after raman's outburst. From this perspective, there will be a lot of difference if they have a baby together. He loves Ishitha but the love for his kid. Will it be as the same one as he has for Adi or Ruhi ?

Coming to parenting issues ... If Ishitha went overly secure and breached all degrees of parenting and placed the camera, puttar was no less when he speaks those words. Adi is not your kid ?? really ? Are you reiterating Shagun's words that "Ishitha is this glorified Nanny" ? I loved it when she asked why do you make me an outsider whenever there is an issue. WORD. It was no less than calling her bhaanj in Shagun and Bala's mother's words.

I pretty pissed with puttar for using those words and my anger fades out when they romance the next day. I am hopelessly lost in their world. CVs will not give a patch up scene but this time I want something different. With more exciting ones around the corner I wuld want to swallow this 🤢.

Done with my not so coherent rant 😆

There's just this another thing I want to write because I did read this a few times here and there..
Just because Puttar doesn't mean the words he utters doesn't make it okay for him to keep saying the same things again and again.
No offense, its a very weak argument. Because to me, thats not his character to say such brutal things, Atleast now, when their at a different stage of their relation altogether. If we were talking about the initial Puttar, I would still be in some agreement with that point, but he has come a long way since then.

Just because i don't mean anything doesn't mean i will hurt someone with the most harsh truth of their life. Again, I haven't watched the episode yet, so please correct me if i am wrong. If he did say about her being Ishima, this will be the third time he mocks her motherhood. That really is heart breaking when you think of the times he has wished her to be the mother to his kids.

Not playing the devil's advocate here but just saying, even Ishita didn't mean to hurt Adi or Raman with her action but she did. it was in impulse and out of over protectiveness she did what she did, so that doesn't make her actions right because she did go over the top with it.

That was one thing i forgot to add in my previous one, so just posted again.

At the end of the day, I cant even stay mad at these 2 for long but would only pray and hope they sit and sort the mess out. They need to. She needs to give herself some more respect by stopping him from uttering harsh things and he needs to have a grip over his words in anger!

Only their concern and anger respectively can be justified, not the action and the words.

Sorry for the second rant G, somethings just get me and I find this the only sane place where one can have a proper unbiased argument. 😳 😆

Originally posted by: crazy_bholi

Yes Gan ...i simply couldnt get ishu today...and even vandu who is elder to her didnt explain the consequences...Raman is harsh that is his character but he is not wrong in questioning her regarding CCTV...I am still laughing😆

I was amused and pity kids...real MOM didnt care and step MOM cares 2222 much...poor them...🤣

And Romi you are messed up and will be completely thrashed in future by ACP

I love when they show puttar remembering their moments even when they were not in LOVE...I loved that Rose tucking scene

GAN can u make a collage of putttar and Biwi scenes today

Sometimes I feel like the CVs play a competition as to which lead can manage to tick off viewers more...