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Posted: 10 years ago
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One of my friend lucky (always_a_TV_fan) made post long time ago about show product and customer trp aunties related.

Link of my friend topic


http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4187734


As a fans we are emotionally attached but as a makers they are more than emotionally they are attached financially. For us its show but for them this is product which they introduce in market and working on them for long term life in tv market. Trp is their return

When this show started at that time ekta kapoor gave us assurance that this is unique show and for urban audience wherr male and female lead including other caste all will get deserving share in this show and she proved also to us. Show was good and different and positive which i don't need to explain anyone because we all know already how was 11 pm yhm and how is 7.30 pm yhm.

After changing time show started to leave it's uniqueness and turning into trp audience show. Doesn't makers have confident on their own product that same 11 yhm will work for 7.30 pm audience too? as far as I know this show was popular at old slot and with different story. It was just that timing was late so didn't get current trp but it was no less popular compare to today. Only difference is that popularity and quality was together now they are separated in new slot.

If they did try to give same product on new slot and show was failed to garner expected trp than I can say it's not makers fault. They tried to give different show but didn't accepted by audience so they change product but here problem is thatv they didn't tried to present same product on new time and adopted all old formula And show lost its uniqueness and reality touch and become too much melodramatic show where is mostly negativity is there.

Note: this is not ishita vs raman post or bashing post but just a normal question which i am having from long time.

Why makers didn't try to use old product and formula?
Why didn't makers had confidence on their work?
Why makers didn't show confidence on their cast and give them quality work?
Why didn't makers show confidence on old yhm viewers who will be there in new time slot?
Doesn't makers have confidence on their own ability?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Buddy tweet this tagging ekta, taklu and other actors of yhm... So that they will know...
Im glad I could read this...
Pls tweet them dear..
Its a request... You will be retweeted by many... Im sure...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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CVS r TRPs bhukkad...They r running back of TRPS...Not thinking about the viewers...
we really miss old yhm...Time slot has brought vast difference in the story line and most of the characters r missing ...They buthchered all the characters...


No more expectation from cvs...


YHM is on the top due to us...If they will start to torture us with this kind of unnecessary Drama...sure it will be out from top 5...



good post jaya ji...🤗 🤗
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Posted: 10 years ago
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This is a perfect post with probably the key question plaguing many of our minds! The makers didn't even bother showing our YHM to the 7:30 audience. They dove right into constant drama with no light moments.

YHM used to be about conflict & drama, but good would always win. We would see a focus on small moments in different relationships, but now it's a mess. Once in a few episodes they will show is a meaningful scene with relatable emotions, like before.

It's a disappointment to see how much they have compromised the characters & storytelling method to fit the new slot. All these tracks they have show us, except Mihika-Ashok & Mihir-Rinki actually marrying, seem to have been pre-planned, but they continually botch the execution because they are trying to be "flashy" (aka OTT drama).

The reason I think the overall track themes (including the current one) were planned early in the show is because the theme of the track is actually deep & meaningful. Plus during one of the celebrations, KP said they had enough storyline for 1000+ episodes, which I can believe. They just changed their execution of these tracks which have compromised almost every character and a lot of the honest emotion. Since the time slot change, I looked forward to most tracks they showed us, but then within a week of the track, crap would hit the fan and I lost my excitement thanks to shoddy execution,

We used to see meaningful dialogs & scenes that either served a purpose or had a positive spin for the viewers, but now every dialog and scenario appears to be crafted for the next annoying kaand. There are 100s of example over the last 2 months of scenes & dialogs looking too forced.

Finally negativity has overtaken in the show. Their execution has been botched because of the constant negativity they shove down our throats.

We fell in love with this show because even with drama, it was positive. We would rewatch episodes because they made you feel good, or they were so emotionally powerful that you couldn't help but rewatch it.

It's a real shame how low this show has plunged despite the fact the makers can clearly fix things. They have given us a handful of good, old-YHM episodes over the last 6 months, which shows that they are capable of creating magic.

We can only hope they realize this and save this show before it sinks too far.

Sorry for rambling, but your post is something I have felt for a while & even more so over the last few weeks!

Thanks for opening up this dialog even if it doesn't matter at all to the money-driven CVs, production house, channel, stars, & other invested parties of this show!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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You have made the perfect post. Absolutely concur with you on every point that you have made. They have such amazing talent in the form of cast and the story progression earlier before the time change was top notch.
It is 400 odd episodes and the leads have turned into bumbling fools ! There is no coherence to the story.
The writing is so shoddy, I am amazed that they are even getting trps ! And I am more amazed that I am still vested in this show and keep hoping that things will change !

Stupid stupid me !😆😆😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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You made excellent points and I wish the television industry would truly wake up and one courageous producer becomes a true trailblazer by launching a drama that is not so farfetched!

Frankly I am also sick of seeing the same old plots, All that needs to be done is interchange the artistes from serial to serial and actually nothing will change.


I agree with all points but what confuses me is
Why so?! Why negativity attracts ppl?
Why ppl like to watch such negetive drama ?? Why this show still getting high trp???


I.cannot believe that audience like to see such drama. same people watched better shows earlier but patronise rubbish and accept it as a way of life. Viewers seem to have been conditioned to accept trash now. Dragging is necessary, saas bahu is needed etc.

IMO shows should have fixed story beforehand. Not change according to response. Different subjects be there. They ought to be finite Only Indian show makers have the privilege to change their product mid way.
As a matter of fact they should air finished products only.

In the 90s also, there were shows on channels like Doordarshan and Zee, in which women led an independent life, raised kids on their own..husband supporting wife.

So why can't such stories be shown now?

Instead of showing issues of infertility , divorce, remarriage custody of kids adoption, identity crisis, confusion, effect on psyche, lost childhood and whatnot, they are hell bent on making it like pathetic drama.

All becoz of trp system people are being conditioned to keep their mental horizons this limited!

I believe the 80s and 90s generation is the last one to have seen good shows. The 2000 one has been pelted with worst trash and dumbing down agenda ever!

Someone should throw out this trp system.. It completely destroyed Indian tv. No one dares to take up new story everywhere same pathetic drama n situation is so bad that ph n story writer doesn't even leave mythological stories. Even in them they want to introduce unnecessary drama n pathetic tracks
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Panoramic


So why can't such stories be shown now?

Instead of showing issues of infertility , divorce, remarriage custody of kids adoption, identity crisis, confusion, effect on psyche, lost childhood and whatnot, they are hell bent on making it like pathetic drama.

All becoz of trp system people are being conditioned to keep their mental horizons this limited!



You make such a good point. I'm not in India, but I've watched a lot of desi shows & no matter what they all follow the same gissa-pita formula.

Truthfully I think it's insulting of these so called creatives to belittle the Indian television viewing society so much. By constantly churning out deviations of the same crap, all these PH just prove they don't think the Indian soap viewing society has the ability to appreciate something different. I refuse to belive that the "TRP" junta is not willing to accept something different on TV because no matter your education level, you can find beauty and connection to a well crafted piece of art.

I believe there is both TONS of greed & some real psychology behind why the OTT drama shows ended up beating out well crafted shows of the past.

For money, they clearly can compromise creativity and respect for their viewers. Not only that but overworked actors rarely speak out against the stupidity on their shows out of fear of being replaced by the bosses. Such a disappointing culture of the Indian television industry.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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bang on post 👏

ofcourse makers dnt have confidence on thr own prdt ..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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i don't know what the hell cv's are doing. I don't watch the episodes, follow the discussions or read the updates anymore. all in all, I pretend this show does not exist but it's really sad what the cv's did to this wonderful show in their thirst for trp's. that is why i don't think about the earlier days of YHM, because it is genuinely disappointing. Creatives are obviously responsible for this mess but I also think a lot of it has to do with starplus, the channel heads constantly pressurize the show runners to bring in melodrama and ott drama for trps, and writers have no option but to oblige. we may be emotionally attached to this how but writers are not, it's easier for them to butcher the characters and original premise. those who write for YHM also write for other balaji shows, so they have no time to get emotionally attached to the shows--instead they work like machines to churn out episodes and fill air times. sometimes when their brains are not working properly, they just write crap to fill up 20 minutes. it's all very robotic and business-like, I doubt they care much about the shows they write for.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Jaya...first of all Fab Topic...

The question that you have raised , is something I am also wondering why the makers /Channel dint tried to show the 11 pm YHM to 7:30 slot.
I am totally baffled at this . But This is my perception behind it.

I remember during 11pm alot YHM had trp in between 3 -4 .
Once they shifted to 7:30 , It was Mani Track going , they got TRP more than 4 and it remained constant .
Thou They made butchered Ishita character to fit in Raman's Insecurity Angle teh track still I'll say was Good..It was the End that made it W*F**kery.
I am still clueless what made them end Mani Track in such way...
Then came teh Shagun Track...YHM was 2nd there..with hardly diff with Leading DABH. This was the Game Destroyer.
The Makers wanted to reach the TOP slot...and hence It was Shagun wedding track , they started drama pe drama, with the quest to reach the Numero Uno Position .
I remebr KP, DT ,Mihika saying in their Interviews arnd 300 Epis Celebration that We'll reach the Top Position . I guess the Entire Team was just way to focussed to attain that
top position . when Shagun wedding drama dint worked they decided to attract with Confession , promos stating raman-Ishita to Confess were publicized .
The TRP did increased but not to the level that it will beat the top , they were still at 2nd Position .
And finally they last nail in the coffin Sauten Drama...result they slipped from 2nd to 3rd ...
Channel and YHM Makers are mostly cashing on 7 pm show Audience . Also they have Simar show at 7:30 as Competition .
According to me , It's the hunger to Attain the Top Position that made them take a Negative Route .
Ultimately they still have't achieved that POsition and I guess They wont stop till they Achieve it and once Achieved they'll keep throwing some or other shit to
keep that Position Maintained.In short There are ABSOLUTE NO CHANCES of Old YHM returning back .

--Wished Star Plus/Balaji had been Bold Enough to change the TV age old style to Story Telling .
--Wished they had onced thought about Delivering Quality the Quantity .
--Wished they had onced tried to show Faith in thier Product , They dint even gave teh enough Time to Audience to Test it and decided its Faith.
I have left al Hopes of YHM , RKB returning Back...

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