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Posted: 10 years ago
Thank you so much for this post giving insight into ramans plight

Wit a fear of being stereotyped here it's noticed mostly that the male leads feel no emotions. N my only concern wit te writers of this show is why do ul show ishita sensitive to all but her husband. Even yest m sure ramans body language n drunk state n replies said a lot. Why show Raman in a total contrast to where he started. Why can't they show him The real RKB the 11pm one not a make shift fitted for TRp 7.30pm male statue.


Coming to the episode Raman is living in purgatory

This track started wit a noble intention of a father wanting to hv his most affected child of his parents divorce under the safe cocoon of a very abled ishita to take his Broken son and nurse him with tender love care like a a mother wud like she did for his ruhi. He knew come wat ishita will never Ill treat m use adi for her gains like shagun

For tht matter he chose to hid the deal of 4lacks per month
Pardonable ? I wud say tht sooner or later he wud mention it. A man always accused directly or indirectly of being te cause of his wife's misery chose to keep one away. Was he wrong? Probably as a parent ya but the intention was not.

When ishita eloped wit ruhi all he hoped was their safety not once did he accuse her. He lost his world again his life was crumbling again wen he found them he was relieved. Again this track of eloping n coming does hv missed parts. However.

Raman tried to make things right for ruhi n wen Vora letter came n he was on cloud 9 his bubble burst his teen son was contemplating suicide. Wat a blow to any parent that their child is contemplating suicide n te reason is Somewere the parent n his feeling of being unwanted that's a terrible feeling to experience,

It's psychologically proven tht the rate of suicide is higher in this age grp also wen the person has a history of emotional disturbance. For adi it is some one who's was living for the 1st 6 years of his life in a environment filled wit love in the cocoon of home safety. He was pulled out of if to unsurity for the nxt 6. All he knew was his father was horrible human and so was his family his onli family was his mother shagun. However he wanted his mother father again he reliased tht aftr the ashok incident he was a pawn in his mothers game to win a life tht she can enjoy. Now wen he's realising he can get back his home father sister n extended fly he is hit wit the reality that Somewere he is the cause his kid sister is away. Wen ur attachd to someone(shagun) n learn u were wing used u break n Thts wat is happening to him. So much emotional trauma n he NEEDS ishita aunty Raman n bhallas collectively to help him out n live a life her truly deserves. However evil he has been in the past the circumstances made him act so n he wasn't thinking straight.

Ruhi got all nurturance from the bhalla clan n protection from te big bad world tht adi didn't get post moving out.

Raman wen he entered his room yest his body language showed he was in for a conversation. Wen Ishita spoke of ruhi comin back he said sorry I FELT THAT SORRY WAS THE STARTING OF RAMAN GOIMG TO SPEAK TO ISHITA OF ADIS MENTAL STATE AND SUICIDAL TOUGHTS. But BFr he cud continue further ishita apologised n spoke n moved toward the couch wit the paper. He cud hv pursued the matter further but Here ramans rational mind gave up.

Wat he did yest may be seen as a way to distract ishita to get the papers or as his way to feel tht love and warmth one last time BFr hell wud break loose the nxt morning. He was so broken yest tht all he wanted was a few minutes of love to fell good. Tht things will get back to normal.

Don't we all feel low horrible and need some sort of comfort? So is Raman na. Ppl say he used/ tricked ishita agreed but can any one question the love the guilt n need of being lioved in those eyes, tears and face? I doubt. Ishita will feel cheated n may fear intimacy is yet to see but she can fr sure feel the difference between the feel a person gves. Tht award night ramans intimacy attempt and lasts nights are by far differnt by a yardstick.

Ishita on the other hand surrendered herself to her husband so innocently. Raman has nvr experienced such love so pure.

Raman started this mess n Raman will only clean it. He lives for his children n loves both equally. Every parent prioritises the sick child more than the stronger one. A talk work ruhi about how this is will help but thn this is a show n has to go on so for drama this logical step will be ignored. N the more u feel for ruhi the trps help. Tht the catch.

I hope as a viewer there is some sensibility that can be shown as uneducated masses worship the leads.
Hv the leads making mistakes as this makes them near to raealuty but gve them a chance to mend it.


I really hope atleast for a few days Raman gets some real happiness in his life in the fom of his wife n kids BFr tragedy strikes in the form of nxt track.

Last hats off to KARAN for a flawless performance Raman tht just strikes the emotional chords n makes u overlook the poker straight look ;)
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: iffanvidz

I don't find any thing wrong in this episode...

it's natural...
why we react more is bocz of spoiler...
only spoiler made us to think negative side of raman...
Though his intension is to divert ishtiha...
love was genuine and natural...


Exactly... He loves her and that's all that matters. Thanks for commenting...
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: vraizada

Intention is for an individual.

Action is for the society for all to see and follow.
Intention cannot be bigger then action.
Action is many fold larger then intention..
Last night's episode .. Intention and action both entered the room hand in hand..


Had something happened before the whole family, i would agree with this. Within the confinement of 4 walls, intentions hold more importance than actions.

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: ishruhi

I dont have anything else to say than your post.I was having double mind when the olvs came.but last 2 episodes touched my heart and I can say that I cant stop watching this show.yesterday's raman-I dont know how to explain,but I could connect with him...I was thinking to avoid reading posts as all will be having puttar bashing..but thanks to your post...dont know where this track will end.but hoping for the best


Thanks a lot for liking my post and commenting on the same.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: CrAZiVrAzI

Thank you so much for this post giving insight into ramans plight

Wit a fear of being stereotyped here it's noticed mostly that the male leads feel no emotions. N my only concern wit te writers of this show is why do ul show ishita sensitive to all but her husband. Even yest m sure ramans body language n drunk state n replies said a lot. Why show Raman in a total contrast to where he started. Why can't they show him The real RKB the 11pm one not a make shift fitted for TRp 7.30pm male statue.


Coming to the episode Raman is living in purgatory

This track started wit a noble intention of a father wanting to hv his most affected child of his parents divorce under the safe cocoon of a very abled ishita to take his Broken son and nurse him with tender love care like a a mother wud like she did for his ruhi. He knew come wat ishita will never Ill treat m use adi for her gains like shagun

For tht matter he chose to hid the deal of 4lacks per month
Pardonable ? I wud say tht sooner or later he wud mention it. A man always accused directly or indirectly of being te cause of his wife's misery chose to keep one away. Was he wrong? Probably as a parent ya but the intention was not.

When ishita eloped wit ruhi all he hoped was their safety not once did he accuse her. He lost his world again his life was crumbling again wen he found them he was relieved. Again this track of eloping n coming does hv missed parts. However.

Raman tried to make things right for ruhi n wen Vora letter came n he was on cloud 9 his bubble burst his teen son was contemplating suicide. Wat a blow to any parent that their child is contemplating suicide n te reason is Somewere the parent n his feeling of being unwanted that's a terrible feeling to experience,

It's psychologically proven tht the rate of suicide is higher in this age grp also wen the person has a history of emotional disturbance. For adi it is some one who's was living for the 1st 6 years of his life in a environment filled wit love in the cocoon of home safety. He was pulled out of if to unsurity for the nxt 6. All he knew was his father was horrible human and so was his family his onli family was his mother shagun. However he wanted his mother father again he reliased tht aftr the ashok incident he was a pawn in his mothers game to win a life tht she can enjoy. Now wen he's realising he can get back his home father sister n extended fly he is hit wit the reality that Somewere he is the cause his kid sister is away. Wen ur attachd to someone(shagun) n learn u were wing used u break n Thts wat is happening to him. So much emotional trauma n he NEEDS ishita aunty Raman n bhallas collectively to help him out n live a life her truly deserves. However evil he has been in the past the circumstances made him act so n he wasn't thinking straight.

Ruhi got all nurturance from the bhalla clan n protection from te big bad world tht adi didn't get post moving out.

Raman wen he entered his room yest his body language showed he was in for a conversation. Wen Ishita spoke of ruhi comin back he said sorry I FELT THAT SORRY WAS THE STARTING OF RAMAN GOIMG TO SPEAK TO ISHITA OF ADIS MENTAL STATE AND SUICIDAL TOUGHTS. But BFr he cud continue further ishita apologised n spoke n moved toward the couch wit the paper. He cud hv pursued the matter further but Here ramans rational mind gave up.

Wat he did yest may be seen as a way to distract ishita to get the papers or as his way to feel tht love and warmth one last time BFr hell wud break loose the nxt morning. He was so broken yest tht all he wanted was a few minutes of love to fell good. Tht things will get back to normal.

Don't we all feel low horrible and need some sort of comfort? So is Raman na. Ppl say he used/ tricked ishita agreed but can any one question the love the guilt n need of being lioved in those eyes, tears and face? I doubt. Ishita will feel cheated n may fear intimacy is yet to see but she can fr sure feel the difference between the feel a person gves. Tht award night ramans intimacy attempt and lasts nights are by far differnt by a yardstick.

Ishita on the other hand surrendered herself to her husband so innocently. Raman has nvr experienced such love so pure.

Raman started this mess n Raman will only clean it. He lives for his children n loves both equally. Every parent prioritises the sick child more than the stronger one. A talk work ruhi about how this is will help but thn this is a show n has to go on so for drama this logical step will be ignored. N the more u feel for ruhi the trps help. Tht the catch.

I hope as a viewer there is some sensibility that can be shown as uneducated masses worship the leads.
Hv the leads making mistakes as this makes them near to raealuty but gve them a chance to mend it.


I really hope atleast for a few days Raman gets some real happiness in his life in the fom of his wife n kids BFr tragedy strikes in the form of nxt track.

Last hats off to KARAN for a flawless performance Raman tht just strikes the emotional chords n makes u overlook the poker straight look ;)


That was fabulous...Couldn't agree more...Thank you...
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: sunitas123

Kri, such a wonderful post. Then I saw 10 pages on your thread in such a short time and thought am I that late? But voila- most of it was puttar gushing-owning-drooling, etc😆

I actually think this is the most important track of the show. I was hoping it would come much later, else what will they show us after this super climax?

Yes the show at times does go OTT, but there is a basic story which the Cvs r telling us, leave aside the legalities and the logicalities😆

We all want Ruhi to be back with Ishima, but if that happens tomorrow the show will shut down faster. We need to sit back and enjoy the journey rather than jump to the destination. It is like we have just walked in to see a movie and we want to see the end first😆

So I like your post since it has that theraav, which can calm over-excited viewers. I am liking this track since I can finally see the end of Shagun and her manipulating the kids... I am also sure Adi will have a huge role to manaav Ruhi once she gets angry with Ishima.

I was never too much against Ishita when she took Ruhi away neither am I against Raman for what he did. If their hearts are in the right place even the sometimes wrong looking actions dont feel that wrong after all!

But yes every day with Shagun is going to be tough on Ruhi.

See the irony of it all- the biologocal mom leaves no oppty to harass her kids and keep them away from their happiness and security just to score revenge points - first it was Raman and now it is Ishita. Shagun has not been able to come to terms with the fact that Raman loves Ishita.

I am enjoying this track too. I know Ruhi cant hate her Ishima for long. Adi was willing to help earlier too, now he will definitely help. and am sure even though Ishita is not expecting it, he will start calling her Ishima soon. What a huge change from the time he had sent her to prison and tried to get her out of the house?

I was also tired of "Ishita loves only Ruhi, she will leave Raman", etc... just coz one says something when one is angry does not mean they mean it or will do it! I guess this track will also be a response to all Ishita bashers that is if they want to see the light...😉😆

See you on Gan's thread.

Love, Cheers!

Nice post sunita..ya..i am also tired of ishu loves ruhi more and she doesn't love raman as she eloped with ruhi..i am ok with ishita eloping with ruhi as a mother her mind got numb but the action dat step is wrong..i also decided to quit the show and wen heard about spoilers and sbs whr poor soul ruhii is crying as ishru is the base of the story dat i cannot tolerate their separation..i am ishra fan..i bash raman wen he commit mistake and same with ishita..after kri's post i watched that scene in her perspective and here i am liking this track..as per sbs ishu leaves ruhi for raman..i thought this wil b eyeopener for ishita bashers dat who says she don't love raman..but i was wrong..i saw some posts whr they r bashing cvs dat to glorify ishu they degraded raman's char..
ok watever may be i was looking forward for the track..
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: manan09

Nice post sunita..ya..i am also tired of ishu loves ruhi more and she doesn't love raman as she eloped with ruhi..i am ok with ishita eloping with ruhi as a mother her mind got numb but the action dat step is wrong..i also decided to quit the show and wen heard about spoilers and sbs whr poor soul ruhii is crying as ishru is the base of the story dat i cannot tolerate their separation..i am ishra fan..i bash raman wen he commit mistake and same with ishita..after kri's post i watched that scene in her perspective and here i am liking this track..as per sbs ishu leaves ruhi for raman..i thought this wil b eyeopener for ishita bashers dat who says she don't love raman..but i was wrong..i saw some posts whr they r bashing cvs dat to glorify ishu they degraded raman's char..
ok watever may be i was looking forward for the track..


Today's SBS was splendid... Ruhi is angry...That's all... She doesn't hate her Ishima. She can't hate her too.

I don't understand this love scale. Loving someone more or less. Just hope i could understand that one day.
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Posted: 10 years ago
Kri...fabulous insight on the scene. Have been out of touch the past few months, just got on board today. I agree intentions are different than actions. However actions are the outcome of intentions... Raman's dilemma is heart wrenching; KP's acting...hu la la...awesome
However, look at if from Ishita's POV...she is going to be shattered when she finds out. In yesterday's scene, she was day-dreaming about ISHRA relationship...Gosh...

Ever step of the way, Raman has betrayed Ishita for Adi. Ishita has borne it all for the sake of Ruhi. Raman had to choose Adi for the time being as the child is seriously in need of some stability, Raman needed Ishita's comfort before hell broke loose, what about Ishita and Ruhi?

Wouldn't Ishita question Raman's intention in future whenever he comes near her? Ulterior motive... I would. Yes, Raman will be with Ishita to bring his children back but for me he has an uphill task with Ishita...unless CV's make Ishita a mahan...then, it's all forgotten and forgiven.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: JazzyM

Kri...fabulous insight on the scene. Have been out of touch the past few months, just got on board today. I agree intentions are different than actions. However actions are the outcome of intentions... Raman's dilemma is heart wrenching; KP's acting...hu la la...awesome

However, look at if from Ishita's POV...she is going to be shattered when she finds out. In yesterday's scene, she was day-dreaming about ISHRA relationship...Gosh...

Ever step of the way, Raman has betrayed Ishita for Adi. Ishita has borne it all for the sake of Ruhi. Raman had to choose Adi for the time being as the child is seriously in need of some stability, Raman needed Ishita's comfort before hell broke loose, what about Ishita and Ruhi?

Wouldn't Ishita question Raman's intention in future whenever he comes near her? Ulterior motive... I would. Yes, Raman will be with Ishita to bring his children back but for me he has an uphill task with Ishita...unless CV's make Ishita a mahan...then, it's all forgotten and forgiven.


Thanks for liking my take. Raman didn't do any mistake for Ishita to forgive him. He loves that woman a lot. Even if something Ishita utters something in rage, i am sure that she won't mean it that way. She knows that Raman loves her. Ishita saw love in his eyes else why will a woman surrender...that too the same woman who pushed him when he forced himself on her. That night, he had other priorities too but that doesn't refute the fact that Raman loves Ishita. There was so much of love in his eyes...

Thanks for commenting...
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: krikumar.91


Thanks for liking my take. Raman didn't do any mistake for Ishita to forgive him. He loves that woman a lot. Even if something Ishita utters something in rage, i am sure that she won't mean it that way. She knows that Raman loves her. Ishita saw love in his eyes else why will a woman surrender...that too the same woman who pushed him when he forced himself on her. That night, he had other priorities too but that doesn't refute the fact that Raman loves Ishita. There was so much of love in his eyes...

Thanks for commenting...


Agreed...no woman in relationship would allow intimacy unless they feel strong about their partner...I would have liked it better if the CVs had taken a woman's perspective in doing the scene. Raman could have taken the document next day, in front of Ishita, tore it to pieces, then, the night before intentions, actions would have had its own meaning.

Yes, Ishita would understand the situation, she might shout in fury but would support him, forgive him, the nuances of a relationship is important...but then, this is drama...everything is ok for TRP.

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