A question for those who believe Raman should not be forgiven

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Janaki

@RamKiSeeta

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Posted: 10 years ago

This has been gnawing on my mind ever since I've seen this forum erupt into topics about sexual harassment and woman's dignity following Raman's recent actions (which are wrong, no doubt about it).

My question is for those who believe Ishita should never forgive Raman and divorce him. I agree sexual harassment is wrong and what Raman did (or almost did) to Ishita can indeed be seen as sexual abuse.

HOWEVER, has everyone forgotten the time when Ishita was drunk at the Iyer party and Raman defended her since it wasn't her fault, and Ishita slapped him? Doesn't that construe as physical abuse, domestic abuse, and shouldn't that be an unforgivable? But I did not see ONE post on man's dignity or domestic abuse in the forum.

Why is it that when a woman abuses a man, it is totally forgivable and some women even applaud it as "daring" and a sign of "women empowerment"?

But when a man abuses a woman, it becomes such a serious issues and all the feminists in the world cry for that man to be given life imprisonment or whatever.

Maybe this is the reason why I don't like to be labelled as a feminist. Being a woman, I totally believe in gender equality and women empowerment, but to me, so much of today's feminism seems like another form of male chauvinism. Feminists only care about women and chauvinists only care about men. There are very few people who actually care about gender EQUALITY.

It should NOT be right for a woman to abuse a man. I've seen women unnecessarily slap their boyfriends/male classmates and get away with it by a gentle reprimand, but when a man slaps a woman he is suspended or even expelled. Why this bias between genders? Where's the gender equality in all this?

Why has Ishita been forgiven for slapping Raman and playing on his insecurities (both of which are different forms of abuse), when Raman should not be forgiven for almost molesting her?

Either both should be forgiven and move on or both should be punished and get a divorce. I hate this gender bias of portraying Raman as the villain and Ishita as the damsel in distress.

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Nisha0604

@Nisha0604

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Posted: 10 years ago

Only a woman needs protecting...

Great topic BTW

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sammywammy

@sammywammy

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Posted: 10 years ago

Slapping someone and molesting them are two completely different things. I can't even comprehend how you can even compare the two. She gave him one slap, she didn't beat him up.

She's weaker than him, he tried to take advantage of her to satisfy his sexual frustrations. I don't even understand why can't raman just ASK ishita or confront her about Mani. Instead of going crazy with his overdrived imagination.

I don't think Ishita should divorce him over this but Raman did very wrong and needs to repent and apologise. His behaviour was disgusting.

I also think that ishita is overly friendly with mani. Why can't she see that Raman is jealous. Both characters are behaving ridiculously.

Ishita gave him one slap Raman is always taunting her and manhandling her.

Edited by sammywammy - 10 years ago

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Imane

@The_Imane

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Posted: 10 years ago

I agree with u, living in big city as paris, n being a woman, i belive that woman and mens should hav same rights, neither womens shud have more neither mens, which is 95% accomplished for my city ncountry, but seem like in sope undevelopped countries, peaple had made a whole other signification of the word FEMINISM

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Imane

@The_Imane

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Nisha0604

Only a woman needs protecting...

Great topic BTW

sorry but why is that?? Cant a woman protect herself on her own?? Thats the point ur making womens more wekear andthats maybe why in some countries womens depends on their father or husband or brother and not on their own, no offense 😳

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NaV

@SIKinLoVE

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Posted: 10 years ago

lovely post... its a thought that's been in my mind since the physical assault took place.. and the forum has discussed it.. because since the episode of the 'assualt'.. which has made raman the bigges jerk alive on the planet in many viewers eyes... i too have been thinking the same thing... why is it when she slaps.. raman or romi for that matter, its not abuse.. abuse is abuse! but because he man handled her... we are screaming violence.. and all hail ishita... how dare raman do what he did, and yes! raman should have gotten slapped by ishita at that point for man handling her ..because that's standing up for yourself.. and protecting yourself..

and there are many types of assaults.. physical.. emotional... mental... i feel ishita's pulling the last two on raman... and she really did that in yesterday's epi... when she continued to thank mani by holding his hand and making him seem as if the world didn't go round without him... so why is that not taken into consideration as well???

either way they are both wrong... to some extent... the thing about raman's wrongs is that he realizes and he apologizes.. or he feels guilty as he did, when he woke up the next day.. hoping and wishing he hadn't done wrong with ishita ... at least he realizes he is wrong...

where as ishita.. can just do no wrong... maybe when she's calmed her self down a bit.. she'll see that she too is to be blamed but wishful thinking

great post 👏

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Tamanna .

@YhmCraze

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Posted: 10 years ago

Nice post I so agree too .

Both IshRa should be forgiven and should move on . Just because of these misunderstandings , They should not be separeted . Everyone person does mistakes and should realise their mistakes too. Here , Both IshRa will realise what they've done . So , Divorce word ? No use of this word for IshRa at all . I'm sure that after this misunderstandings , IshRa will have Trust in their bond . If not , Then they should think about their mistakes again .

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NaV

@SIKinLoVE

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: sammywammy
Slapping someone and molesting them are two completely different things. I can't even comprehend how you can even compare the two. She gave him one slap, she didn't beat him up.

She's weaker than him, he tried to take advantage of her to satisfy his sexual frustrations.
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a slap is a slap, whether its 1 or 10... sometimes one is all that's needed to break someone... and just because she did the slapping, doesn't make any it any different then if it was him, who would have

did he try to satisfy his sexual frustrations?? or did he try to tell her THEY are a couple...that he is her husband and she is his wife! and now more than ever... he was ready to lay claim and he wanted her to lay claim on him... and he felt she wouldn't because she's too busy with mani

yes he manhandled her.. no one's ignoring that..and it was wrong... no one's ignoring that either and why is she the weaker link??? cuz she is a women??? what if a woman had roughly handled another woman.. then who is at fault? and why do we assume all women are weaker than men...

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sammywammy

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Mrs. SIR

a slap is a slap, whether its 1 or 10... sometimes one is all that's needed to break someone... and just because she did the slapping, doesn't make any it any different then if it was him, who would have

did he try to satisfy his sexual frustrations?? or did he try to tell her THEY are a couple...that he is her husband and she is his wife! and now more than ever... he was ready to lay claim and he wanted her to lay claim on him... and he felt she wouldn't because she's too busy with mani

yes he manhandled her.. no one's ignoring that..and it was wrong... no one's ignoring that either and why is she the weaker link??? cuz she is a women??? what if a woman had roughly handled another woman.. then who is at fault? and why do we assume all women are weaker than men...

I didn't say all women are weaker than men. But physically ishita is weaker and Raman is a lot stronger. You can't deny that, I recall when ishita slapped Raman he took control of the sito and grabbed her from the face and threatened her. He can protect himself and defend himself. He was about to RAPE her, it's sickening that people on this forum are defending him. I'm not saying ishita is a saint or anything but with this situation Raman is at fault solely. Why is it that when a man doesn't get what he wants he resorts to molesting and attempting to rape a woman?? I think it's ridiculous that TV serials show such tracks, glorifying the male lead attempting to molest a woman, especially when we have countless rapes in India. It's not a good message Ekta is portraying to the Indian audiences. It's almost normalising the situation.

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anjs

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: Mrs. SIR

a slap is a slap, whether its 1 or 10... sometimes one is all that's needed to break someone... and just because she did the slapping, doesn't make any it any different then if it was him, who would have

did he try to satisfy his sexual frustrations?? or did he try to tell her THEY are a couple...that he is her husband and she is his wife! and now more than ever... he was ready to lay claim and he wanted her to lay claim on him... and he felt she wouldn't because she's too busy with mani

yes he manhandled her.. no one's ignoring that..and it was wrong... no one's ignoring that either and why is she the weaker link??? cuz she is a women??? what if a woman had roughly handled another woman.. then who is at fault? and why do we assume all women are weaker than men...

very well said 👏

unfortunately star tv wont agree