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Posted: 10 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: RomComFan

AGREE! AGREE! AGREE!👏that's all i have to say really...

i just can't believe some of the words being tossed around to describe both Ishita and Raman these days.

I am emotionally invested in them too but some of the name calling in defense is a bit much...

@ the end of the day this is a show and they are characters that we all know are going to get back together stronger and more committed.

You can't take those words back, these jumping to conclusion terms says more about society's views in these circumstances then anything else ... and that just makes me sad!😕


thank you dear😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: JUHI.HI


buddy..pls read my post clearly..esp d bold.. whr my post isnt restricted to oly a girl..i clearly said HUMAN BEING..i u cant regard a man as human being, then i cant help it...

@bold :again u cant justify the wrng by pointing out another wrng..ishu got the rapist home..agree..i ws the first one to get disappointed n evn pointed it out also.. n if i remember, i guess i oly posted the on loc video!!!..

one cant justify a wrng by doing wrng!!!!

galat galat hota hai BAS!!! :)



By saying DT I meant Divyanka :)

I'm saying for those who just suddenly jump into the world of feminism without considering the whole context.

@Bold: That's the saddest part. If you call it feminism, sanity or individualism; Ishita uses it selectively.
She won't explain herself just because she's FEMINIST. How lame is that. Then a wife who cheats her husband can use the same excuse. Feminist approach is not fruitful everywhere, just like male empowerment isn't.

Ishita can brought a rapist back, can force Romi to marry a woman whom he doesn't want to marry and own their child; here feminism doesn't get hurt! It only hurts when her husband asked her to explain, right?

Ishita practices selective feminism,sanity or individualism, whatever you may call it. It turns off for Param and Romi but suddenly turns on for Raman. 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: Mrs. SIR

im just wondering why you're assuming that the person who posted that quote is saying ishita did whatever she did and what happened to her was just right! (which is the physical abuse in this case) unless that person clarified it.. or stated just that.. why would you jump to such a massive conclusion?


what if the person just meant that she got treated the way she did by Raman.. in situations such as.. ditching her before going for the event... not thanking her when he went to make a speech... not trusting her and assuming she's done him wrong...not going after her, even though he had hurt her... alll those statements can mean the same thing.. treating her without respect where he felt (under the given circumstances), it wasn't deserved..

[act like a bitch, you get treated like a bitch] ... and JUST because the quote states the word bitch, i don't feel anyone (unless i missed it) is actually calling her a bitch... 😕





@red...
perfect post...esp ones @red...!! this is wht i said in my post here pg 6..!! i am one among tht who supported tht post which apparently ppl here hv thought as v r sayin physical abuse is right..!! how can any girl evn beleive/think physical abuse is right?none of us meant tht...!!but no lik show mein raman ws bein blamed for no reason by u knw who...here also v r being blamed for things ve nevr evr thought...😲😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#54
Thank you for this. A needed post.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: Nikki_Titli



@red...
perfect post...esp ones @red...!! this is wht i said in my post here pg 6..!! i am one among tht who supported tht post which apparently ppl here hv thought as v r sayin physical abuse is right..!! how can any girl evn beleive/think physical abuse is right?none of us meant tht...!!but no lik show mein raman ws bein blamed for no reason by u knw who...here also v r being blamed for things ve nevr evr thought...😲😆


Lets say I agree with you guys that's not what the commenter meant. then but the person who wrote that comment should have used better words to get their meaning across because like you guys have said its is or could be misinterpreted. The words treat others the way you want to be treated would have better words then the word bitch.
Edited by cocololo123 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: Pooja_Chavan



By saying DT I meant Divyanka :)

I'm saying for those who just suddenly jump into the world of feminism without considering the whole context.

@Bold: That's the saddest part. If you call it feminism, sanity or individualism; Ishita uses it selectively.
She won't explain herself just because she's FEMINIST. How lame is that. Then a wife who cheats her husband can use the same excuse. Feminist approach is not fruitful everywhere, just like male empowerment isn't.

Ishita can brought a rapist back, can force Romi to marry a woman whom he doesn't want to marry and own their child; here feminism doesn't get hurt! It only hurts when her husband asked her to explain, right?

Ishita practices selective feminism,sanity or individualism, whatever you may call it. It turns off for Param and Romi but suddenly turns on for Raman. 😆



ok where was her feminism when she wanted to punish shagun 😕 she din think even about adi

her amma is woman and shagun ?
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Posted: 10 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: Nikki_Titli


PERFECT post...n ppl should know NONE...absolutely NONE is saying "its ok to manhandle"...!! Raman ws wrong there...but our prob is...Ishu IS wrong too which ws PERFECTLY explained by Janki here...!! taali ek haath se NAHI bajti...!! but here CVs r treatin Raman's char as if only he ws responsible for failure of IshRa marriage,only if he ws responsible for all wrong things b/w IshRa now..!!

its funny how ppl saw comments n jumped to conclusions without knowin fact...tht ws just a quote...n i ws one of them who liked it...but i NEVER meant...i am OK with physical abuse...aur na hi anyone...i dnt think evn the one who posted would meant tht...!! I for one can definitely say..!! hv said in posts too...so where did evn this thing of "physical abuse is right" came...i hv NOT seen a single comment saying or evn indirectly saying physical abuse is wrong...so makin post lik this n treatin ppl DID SOME SERIOUS CRIME n they cant evn be called humans is AWFUL n UNCALLED FOR..!!



agree the TM or u (as u say) i dint mean.. fyn.. i agree wid it...bt calling ishu characterless n siding fr watevr happend to her is ABSOLUTELY WRNG...i hav seen may comments stating "COMPLETELY AGREE" just bcz her fndship crossed the line ( n the quote is frm dat post oly..i dint wana open up, bt u opened but was left wid no choice)... IS DAT RIGHT???

characterless word isnt a JOKE!!!.. n ppl esp GIRLS siding wid it...its a big shame!!!..no one is characterless..okay..if i hav to use dis word i wud hv used it fr a RAPIST!!.. IS ISHU DAT BAD??

frget ishu... can a woman be dat bad jus bcz she crossed frndship ka line..n one calls her a CHARACTERLESS woman..???
Edited by JUHI.HI - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..

No human being deserves to be abused, man OR woman. If Raman physically abused Ishita, Ishita emotionally abused Raman and for me, both are EQUALLY wrong. Just because you're a man doesn't mean you can be abused or that you can't cry out against abuse like a woman, and neither does a woman deserves disrespect.

I have seen many biased posts in this forum. Those who are saying that Raman's behavior is unforgivable are forgetting that Ishita has emotionally scarred Raman with her behavior, and yes that is abuse too, and no one has a right to abuse a man just like a man cannot abuse a woman. It goes both ways. Ishita's recent behavior with Mani goes far beyond that of best friend. Raman was totally cool with Ishita and Mani's friendship in the beginning. He joked about them but never felt jealous at heart. It was only when Ishita and Mani's behavior became over the top did he become jealous, and honestly, who can blame him? Just because Raman is a man, he cannot feel hurt when Ishita tells Mani she will leave her husband and child? What if their roles were reversed? Would Ishita, who easily believed a stranger Sanjana over her own husband about their so-called "affair", have felt totally fine if Raman's long-lost (female) best friend came into his life and started monopolizing his time and attention? No way. Ishita would have lectured Raman about how he doesn't respect his wife, how he doesn't spend time with his family, blah blah blah. Ishita has become so accustomed to lecturing Raman and pointing out his faults, that she believes herself to be a Goddess. Raman is Ravankumar, but she behaves as if she's Sita.

This issue has gone way beyond a woman's right to have a male best friend. This is no longer about having friends of the opposite gender. It's about maintaining one's dignity after marriage. BOTH man and woman have a responsibility towards their spouse after marriage, and yes, their best friends should come second in their life. After marriage, neither man nor woman should be as touchy with their best friend as before, because any spouse, whether it be wife or husband, would be insecure about that, and that is their right. Ishita has brought this situation upon herself. She does not deserve Raman's abuse, but she certainly plays a role in bringing it about. Just because she's a woman doesn't mean she's always innocent. Even women make mistakes. They're not angels.

I'm not supporting Raman's behavior, but lately I am really frustrated with the CVs for portraying him as a villain, Mani as a hero, and Ishita as an ideal woman who can do no wrong. Ishita is no Sita, and neither is Raman a Ravan. Both are simply flawed human beings, and if the CVs equally placed blame on both of them where it's deserved, I or other people in this forum would not have felt so frustrated. Naturally, we feel defensive of the character who is wrongly blamed for basically everything that's happening in the story. It's hard to feel sympathetic for Ishita when she has been reduced to such an annoying brat. I dearly miss the old Ishu who was strong, independent, but at the same time intelligent and fair. The CVs have murdered Raman and Ishita's characters beyond repair. Many people are not watching only for Karan and Divyanka.



excellent post RJ

i have seen no one is supporting his abusive behavior.
Reason to make raman evil is because writers saw lots of support for even raman's MU . this was not in case of she MU raman in sanjana case. am telling by seeing quantity of posts made to support respective characters in both cases.

its not about even on IF. I am seeing same thing on other social sites. so what if internet viewers do not contribute trps but their feedback defo matters

none of us who I know neutral and raman fans have supported raman for physical abuse. its very offensive to target us
Edited by Colt.Pixy - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#59
juhi...u made this whole post coz of tht quote...nw u r shifting to others?
i hv definitely prob with Ishita-Mani frndship n the reason i quoted Janki's post here ws her reason of y she dnt lik ishita-mani frndship as it exactly same for me..!! i hv seen extreme bashing posts on BOTH raman n ishita...i hvnt supported them as far as i can remember...but the quote which u finded offensive n evn made this post without knwin facts is wht look offensive to me n hence i commented as i thought this atleast i should speak..!! rest i cant go n change ppl's perspectives towards neither ishita nor raman..!!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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To some here, I too visited that post.

That post directly said that she is characterless cos she kept a friendship in a more open way. The Raman's janwar part was brought to defend him comparing Ishita as characterless. She may be characterless from Raman's pov and the post said it all from whose side that post was written. I guess, character word has changed its meaning. I am sorry, I don't know the new meaning. Anyone will inform me please😆?

And, the quote about which Juhi told, do we know really when the writer commented that she dint think it in negative way? As I said, if you think from raman's pov you will find Ishita characterless and even bitch for some people. So, those lines can't be justified cos you dint think like that.
Edited by DivAniTanni - 10 years ago

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