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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hello

Beautiful sensible post and pics mid of all nasty things around.

Raman feels that ishitha loves Mani and not him ,so he is changing into that teenage lover boy trying all stupid things in a wrong way to pull her back to him.This guy all wants to is to claim her in return wants ishitha to exert her rights.
Its all about both fighting out for their rights in relationship,why are they being name called.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Finally got around to it, done! 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: nebuna

Hello

Beautiful sensible post and pics mid of all nasty things around.

Raman feels that ishitha loves Mani and not him ,so he is changing into that teenage lover boy trying all stupid things in a wrong way to pull her back to him.This guy all wants to is to claim her in return wants ishitha to exert her rights.
Its all about both fighting out for their rights in relationship,why are they being name called.


Thank you !

I really don't know why people are fighting like Raman and Ishita 🤣 here too.. The only difference is atleast Raman or Ishita do not have the complete picture... So they are fighting because of their wrong perceptions... Once they know hopefully they will sort it out between themselves .
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Eyes-Wide-Shut

G, Loved the quote! What an apt fit for the episode and your collage!

What a heart breaking but a necessary episode. We saw an aspect of marriage that is ugly, messy and very unflattering but is part of reality. There was a glimpse of possessiveness, ownership, rights and relationship boundaries in Ishra's relationship.

Raman started spewing words of possessiveness and ownership as soon as he saw his Ishita with someone else. All of a sudden Ishita become meri biwi, and he became a husband up all night looking for HIS wife, funny how he didn't even realize when Ruhi's Ishima became HIS wife. The wife he thinks he owns because now she has became an object, that is threatened to be whisked away by a stranger. Ishita now has became a thing' he wants to own, an exclusive thing he wants to himself, and a thing he wants to love. Puttar needs to realize love isn't a commodity he can own, he needs to feel it and express it.

Ishita, obviously is in love with her husband but is so hurt that her ego takes precedence over the calm and composed wife. With disgust in her eyes, she refuses to even look at his eyes, she sees him speak words but nothing registers because she is so preoccupied by the hurt.

Last night, a lot of talking was done at each other instead of talking to each other; as soon as these unfortunate lovers start talking TO each other the misunderstandings will vanish.

"The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." - George Bernard Shaw

Let's hope they talk to each other today!


"Needs to feel it and express it" .. So true ... He basically was reacting to the dread in his mind that he might lose Ishita to Mani.. So he skipped the part about expressing and was obsessing on the part of trying to hold on to her at any cost...not the ideal way... But extreme measures of a desperate man in love.

"she is so preoccupied by the hurt." .. That's Ishita alright ... She had really opened herself up and was looking forward to finally declare her feelings for Raman.. Only to have her hopes not only dashed but that too publicly. And then she came home to face his accusations which probably made no sense to her.. And then Raman trying to exert his 'marital rights' on her... Just pushed her away to a place where she hurt really bad as she felt she's not only in love with the wrong person but also a person who could hurt her dignity as a woman.
MU just created a vacuum between them where all that was said got lost and nothing reached her.


I don't know when will the talk happen... It truly is needed to establish a dialogue in their relationship ...to create a good foundation of understanding as a couple

Thanks Doc for staying up late to respond . 🤗

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Posted: 10 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

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Gan I am not sure what I love more today - the quote, the collage or the title..the title I think wins it for me more cause it just describes the way he feels for her to the T. This is JUNOON - through and through - not in a creepy, obsessive, stalkerish way of course 😆 but the kind where Love, true love is limitless.

I have always been of the mind that Raman' feelings for Shagun were that of a boy - somewhat more like an infatuation and the fact that he was this geeky guy and she such a beautiful girl always reigned supreme on his mind, he wasnt an equal in that relationship - he was the passive partner, the follower and she ruled over him...he was in love with the idea of being in love with her but slowly that idea started diminishing as he got acquainted with the truth of what Shagun is as a person as he got to know her yet he let her dominate him scared of losing her, scared that who would want him...he always had assumed it was too good to be true that someone like him got someone like her and the idea that his thoughts would translate into reality scared him, though once that happened he realized - he was foolish enough to indulge in fantasies, to consider that life is a fairytale or a bed of roses and the good guy always win in the end or that love conquers all..because in the end, where he was concerned the bad guy won, love failed..or the idea of love failed.


He once said to Ishita - pehle pyaar ke maayne sabke liye alag hote hai - to me it always said - his first love, his true love in fact the only love of his life is Ishita - she is the love of his life and no one can take that mantle from her.

The boy had become a man by the time he met her and was jaded and became a cynic, he had lost out the notion that the world is perfect or that life is or can be beautiful. He assumed he knew it all - only to have him questioning his new found faith and beliefs - she made him fall in love with her. She was everything he wanted always, everything that he looked for and never found in the one he thought was meant to be his forever.

Raman Bhalla truly fell in love when he met her - a man fell in love with a woman, this was not a boy' fantasy but a man' reality.

Now that he knows what is at stake he cant afford to lose her. He cant lose what brought him back to lfe with her and will move heaven and earth to not lose his love - if this isnt Junoon I dont know waht is.


" Raman Bhalla truly fell in love when he met her - a man fell in love with a woman, this was not a boy' fantasy but a man' reality."

That is so true... With Shagun he was in the notion that he was in love...with Ishita he started realizing what being in love is. I loved how you compared the difference between his feelings for Shagun and Ishita... Shagun, he fell for the packaging and Ishita won him over by just being Ishita...he might complain openly but deeply the man loves everything about her. And it's no wonder the mere thought of losing her to someone else pushed him over the edge to this state of possessiveness where he would go to any lengths to claim her, have her only for himself...

Yesterday's raman was obsession personified.. The more I was thinking while typing my thoughts .. The more that emotion stood out to me.. Hence the title 😳.. I'm so glad you liked it.

Thank you Aani for sharing your wonderful thinking here .🤗
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thank you Kri😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
#47

Thank you 😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Liashna

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Raman ko haq hai 😳

RES

Ah I'm in love, with your edits and the quotes you use to describe Ishita and Raman. 😳

Raman wants both of them to exert their rights on each other. He wants to make this marriage be complete, in all senses. He loves her and wants to get rid of and fill every missing place that could complete this puzzle.

Raman is clouded by what he saw to see the love and care she holds for him. And Ishita is too clouded by the hurt she face due to his words at and after the party to actually realise the meaning and aim of his words.
It's misunderstanding from both sides.. Hopefully pal pal bare yeh hain mohabbatein 😆😳

Love your posts as usual 👏




"Raman wants both of them to exert their rights on each other. He wants to make this marriage be complete, in all senses. He loves her and wants to get rid of and fill every missing place that could complete this puzzle. "

That is the emotion that I felt yesterday in Raman that was driving him.. his method might be not ideal but his intentions rooted in that desperation...

Cloud of MU needs to be removed to give them a clearer perspective about each other, about their relationship ... And this pal is also a pal of mohabbat.. As it would lead to their marriage solidifying with better understanding.

Thank you for the lovely comment about my posts. It means a lot

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Posted: 10 years ago
#49
updated page 7 ! thanks for being patient with me !
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Posted: 10 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: rajji-cutest

res (bookmarked the topic as well !)

UNRES !

Ganu ! 😃

loved the collage !! i watched the episode in a rush, so i didn't notice Ishita's reaction (right top corner) at raman. All i see was her contempt towards him and i was taken aback by it.
But at first, she was not mad at him, it's when he started spitting venom at her that her behavior changed.

The rest of the collage focuses more on Raman : him being worried first then a bit lost to see ishita and Mani again. And then the confrontation takes place.
He is hurt and mean and angry. He has visceral hatred towards mani, and he is hurt beyond limits by ishita. but the way he looks at her (bottom left) shows that he is still expecting something from her. He is not letting go and never will !

I loved the collage a lot !

And the quote... where did you find it ? It's PERFECTION for both of them. It's exactly Raman talking in this quote ! Hats off to you dear!

loved this part of you analysis the most : "A lot was said today, by Raman. If his speech had not opened a gaping hole in Ishita's heart, if his extreme actions and words trying to hurt Ishita for her 'betrayal' had not happened in their bedroom the previous night...if the wall of misunderstanding that stood tall in between them were not there... Ishita would have listened to the plea from his heart, felt his anguish, his desperation and understood that those are not the words of a man who is insensitive but of her Raman, who is not tied to his ex...but is suffering from the woes of his present, which is tied to her. "

thank you ganu for such a beautiful post !

Thank you Rajji🤗
most of my quotes I get from goodreads...it's a treasure trove for quote geek😳
She was upset because he started acting all aggressive. Which probably appeared unnecessary from her pov...he had his reason to be upset and she had her own...all because of their stupid 😆
MU..
thank you sweetz!

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