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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Aeryn

Bhallas and Iyers have shifted to new homes. Those look less homey-ish, cosy...

The helplessness and sadness over the loss was well portrayed by Mrs Iyer and Mrs Bhalla.


This misunderstanding is getting tiring. Don't know till when I will be able to watch

They made Raman act animalistic just to give a basis to her anger, to justify Ishita and wake up her self respect as woman...it's disgusting and so disappointing

I liked his dialogues though. Ishita is not innocent, she too has a big hand in current situation. Those dialogues made sense in this context (just didn't like the part where he said he will take the haq that comes with their status)

Raman has by now said more than enough for Ishita to at least ponder and start self introspecting.
But rather than that we again see her involving Mani in family matters *sigh* one would think that the parents should be the ones getting to know that their son is in hospital first but nope here heroine think it wiser to call outsider...

Going by precap nothing can be done, Ishita is lost...seriously after so much has been said, she will still sit on her high horse giving lectures on how he shouldn't point finger at her coz of the despicable way he behaved
For once Mani had the decency to back off but it's ishita who will make him stay

Whole drama is pukeworthy




Aeryn

It is indeed getting tiring


To justify ishita anger and hurt


They have reduced Raman to lowest level

He has said it loud many times

Now if she is original ishita

She would analyse about reasons for his behaviour and acknowledge her mistake

But no this is new ishita


She will only blame Raman
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: jay_bpm

Well I still stand correctly, Raman & Ishita are idiots - all to show Mani as greatest person😆

If Raman was like person with brain he would stop to think ok everything he saw between Ishita and Mani makes him think she is cheating. But then on other side she still attends to household stuff, kept karvachaudh, wants to exert few thing on him and looking at her past other thing doesn't make sense ! So need to get clear picture and talk to her directly !

If Ishita was like person with brain she too would stop to think why sudden change in Raman's behavior? He was fine during karvachaudh but then after his mood been off. Why is he drinking so much and crying at night. What is going on? Need to talk to him directly !!

But no CVs are not interested in showing these 2 as regular people so not thinking too much abt it😆





Agree with you

Sorry for language

But writer is a bigger idiot


She thinks audience are fools


And they will accept any shit they show

But can't blame them as some ppl have been giving them good feedback
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: aimf

I rarely post anything anymore, but today I wished to share some
thoughts with you all. With the forum justifiably erupting into a
volcano of emotions, I have written something about Ishra from the
psychological angle, discussing the trajectory of their growth.

Although
the current track is rather unpopular, primarily because of Ishita's
obtuseness regarding the cause of Raman's anger, the CVs of YHM have
proved once again that human relationships are complex,
not only because of the complexities of the personalities involved, but
also because the people participating in the relationship are not static
beings, but are growing, sometimes even due to the relationship. If we
take a step back from seeing the entire situation in black and white,
from trying to decipher who is right and who is wrong, there is a lot of
undercurrent material that lends itself to a profound story of two
insecure individuals although brought together by circumstances, are
unaware that they transcended the very exigencies of the situation
(Ruhi) that brought them together, but are yet to understand how to
relate to each other.

Ishita:
For
a long time after the marriage, Ishita was in denial about Raman's
thoughtless acts
arising from the hurt of his first marriage. No matter how much Raman
would insult her, Ishita would bounce back very quickly and act as
though everything was normal, leaving the forum vaasis to wonder what
was wrong with her. It was not that Ishita was being too mahan or
forgiving, as some of us mused; rather the denial was her coping
mechanism through which she
could continue staying in the marriage. We saw this resilience after
every mishap, be it the holi dance, or the Pervmeet track. Denial is
Ishita's comfort zone or has been till recently. Therefore, she is
unable to see that her husband is crazily smitten with her. Unable or
unwilling? Perhaps both. Unable because of her denial, unwilling because
she then has to let go of the hurt of her past of not being wanted due
to her infertility.

With the Mani track, we suddenly see Ishita, more confident of herself, more willing to stand up for
herself and her rights. We see her less willing to compromise, less
willing to give in, a development that saw its culmination in
yesterday's episode. Is this development is a result of her increasing
comfort with Raman --finally Ishita is feeling safe enough in the
relationship to feel unsafe? Or it is new boost in her confidence the
result of Mani's reentry into her life? Perhaps it is a bit of both.
Regardless, for a people-pleasing person like Ishita, although painful,
this is a much needed growth spurt.

I do not fault Ishita for
having a male friend. Ishita has always been the kind
of person for whom it is easier to get along with, and confide, in men
rather
than women. We have seen this in the special bond she shares with her
father, with Mr Bhalla, and with Bala. I do however think that her
dalliance with seeing a jealous Raman has had dangerous consequences.
The reason for Ishita's heavy dependence on Mani (other than for the CVs
to drag this track along), is because perhaps the greatest thing that
she misses with Raman is what Mani gives her very easily: a kind of a
companionship for Ishita's samaj-seva instincts, where she can go help
people she loves, where she is not challenged. Rather than being a
friend, Mani is more of a yes-man, a personal super genie of sorts with
riches and contacts who can make things happen the way Ishita wants them
to happen, be it solving the Romy-Sarika fiasco, or retaining her
husband's business tycoon title. The reason Ishita chooses not to
confide in Raman is because he challenges her, and forces her to pay
attention to herself and her needs, instead of running around trying to
do good in the world with an impulsiveness that has only proved, at
times, to be too costly.

Raman:
For Raman, too, the
current
track is an opportunity for self-growth and for emerging out of his
painful past. It is interesting to see that he idolizes Ishita even as
he is rehearsing his hatred for her. He cannot stand her; yet he cannot
let her go, symbolized by the bracelet that he keeps throwing away only
to remorsefully retrieve it afterwards. Raman cannot deny that Ishita is
the cause of all the ways in which he has changed and become a better
person. Raman's ego wants to conquer Ishita's heart, but he is yet to
understand that conquest in love cannot happen without surrender.
Additionally, Raman has to see that he is responsible for his own
growth.While Ishita can support and inspire him to grow, she cannot
accomplish
it. This is something that Raman has to choose to do for himself.

It
is
said that one cannot love another fully until one has dealt with
one's own issues. This is exactly what is happening in the lives of
Ishita and Raman. They are going through the internal angst of battling
their inner demons, and in the process have developed tunnel vision so
that they only perceive things in accordance to their assumptions. They
need to set aside the glasses of their past and clear their vision of
cataracts of suspicion and frustration.

Also on the main forum: https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/ye-hai-mohabbatein/4207572/ishras-growth-and-the-current-track




Thanks for posting


A very interesting analysis


Wish if cvs could do it like you have done


I don't think anyone is questioning her right of having male friend


Even Raman didn't question her


But there is method to madness


And her current methods have brought out current situation


If I could decode properly regarding mani ishita thing

You are saying she likes being with mani as he does not ask questions and does what she wants


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Posted: 10 years ago





Yes nichu


He did not go beyond his limits


Agree with you though Raman has tendency to correct his mistakes which ishita hasn't so far


Yes reality can be worse

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: MERARAI

To Mani (when he wanted to go and to Raman and tell all) Ishita stopped him. She then told him she only did it for his happiness and didn't matter if he didn't acknowledge her.

Today she is upset bec' he didn't even look at her. What does she really want from Raman? She needs to sort out her own demons and insecurities before she goes around calling Raman out on his behavior.

Raman has always been the taunting, angry young man from the day she met him. He learned a litle from Ishita and made changes in his life and got closer to Ruhi. Ishita went from the honest woman to one who lied and hid things from him. Even if Raman was not the man with a bad marriage behind him, her recent behavior would have got the attention of any husband who gives a toss about his marriage even if it's not a normal one.






Very well said


Her current behaviour had clearly gone beyond limits of friendship


Though unintentionally


She too needs to introspect and regret
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: MERARAI



Before Mani came to town she went solo in her jasoosi missions. Now she's enjoying having a team mate while she rejoices in making Raman jealous of her friendship.😕

well said
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Posted: 10 years ago
Ishita I think is self absorbed person who is only interested in seeing things from her side and not from any other angle


totally agree to this
raman has a reason with him for his angry tone. Though wrong, but he thinks his wife has an affair...whereas I dont understand why Ishu is bickering him so much
she never once thought calmly
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: ...EhSaas...

Thanks MERARAI for answer

Vyas
Now writer and maker won't justify mani character but their intentions to bring this character for ishra and ruining raman and ishita beyond repairs. After this track they will start ishra same as before no growth. After ishani torture they will give us sharam torture. Story wohi kirdar naya. We will bash and criticise raman act with shagun and adi. Nothing is going to change. Let see how long trp aunties will tolerate this mani crap




Absolutely jaya


They won't justify mani


Hopefully they see light and correct things
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: ankitasidana

Ishita I think is self absorbed person who is only interested in seeing things from her side and not from any other angle



totally agree to this
raman has a reason with him for his angry tone. Though wrong, but he thinks his wife has an affair...whereas I dont understand why Ishu is bickering him so much
she never once thought calmly





Yes


She should try to understand why he is behaving strangely
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: mnr123





Thanks megha


Glad he didn't force himself on her




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Glad


He didn't force himself on her


Well I have less hopes on her thinking rationally


Yes you have a point confession still hasn't happened

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