Vulnerability of a marriage - Oct 20th - Page 5

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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Nisha

Sorry for a tardy in my reply, first things first gurl you seem real angry at Ishita to a point that while reading this I was fearing for your keyboard and your blood pressure! 😆 just kidding! You have said a lot of things in the post some of which I agree and some I do not. Like Gan said in her post, it's all about perspective and that's the beauty of this show. There are no absolute rights or wrongs it's just a matter of perspective.

Your biggest gripe against Ishita seems to be that she lied to Raman, was it the right thing to do? NO, but is it fair to label that ONE lie and call her insensitive who isn't doing anything for marriage or that she doesn't care/love Raman?

I do not like comparing people in relationships because relationships aren't account books where things need to balance, but here I go nonetheless. Raman has lied to Ishita on multiple occasions during Adi-Amma case, is it not a husband's duty to come clean to his wife? Forget that this case was about Ishita's mom even if it had been about a random person, is it not Raman's duty to come clean to Ishita? Do you remember that scene where Raman is in despair about lying to Ishita and his family, Ishita goes down to the bench and tries to make Raman feel better, tells him not worry and that things will work out. He had the opportunity then but did he? In that situation I couldn't blame Raman nor could I blame Ishita, similarly here I can't blame the two. Yes no one should be lied to but it happens, and here she is lying because in her mind she is trying to help HER man, HER HUSBAND out so he doesn't lose that much coveted Asia business position. Also I think lying goes against her character but for some reason the CV's are hell bent on planting a seed of doubt in Raman's head and hence are making Ishita do things that she would never ever normally do, like lie or ignore Ruhi and be on the phone. She may ignore Raman but she would never ignore Ruhi. These are the creative liberties that the CVs are taking to plant that doubt in Raman's mind. Do I agree with this storyline? NO, but do I blame Ishita for not caring and loving her husband? No to that as well.

Ishita has done a lot for Raman apart from the palak paneer, she made that pasta for him just because he was staring at a picture, she dresses the way he likes, she accompanies him to every party that he is being celebrated in, being there as a supportive wife gleaming in pride of her husband's achievement, even though she will have to face Shagun and his past. She stays up when he comes late and eats with him, when he was upset, she called him and dropped by for impromptu lunch at his office explaining Subbu doesn't mean anything to him. All of this knowing that Raman may never love her, she still did this out of love for him. And I am not writing down what Raman has done for Ishita to save my fingers and save you from the length of this post, we all know he has done more than enough for Ishita and actually in yesterday's episode, Ishita said to Mani 'Raman has done a lot for me and I am not going to let anything happen to him or anyone tarnish his reputation'. All of us define Romance as different, Raman compliments her with his classic one liners, Ishita blushes and does something meaningful and says something endearing almost nonchalantly. Remember the incident when Raman opens the drawer of delicates and calls himself stupid, Remember what Ishita said, Don't' call my husband stupid' for me that is Romance!

The other point that comes across your post is that you are terribly upset with Ishita that she took that call knowing Raman has been hungry, from what I remember, 1) Raman tells her to take the call 2) Mani cuts her and tells her listen lady this is important and 3) more importantly she was so touched by his fasting that she didn't have words to describe her happiness and we saw that in the 1st 2-3 minutes of the episodes. Both their eyes did so much talking. I wanted to see Ishita care for Raman a little more yesterday but again creative liberties of the show. During the var lakshmi puja, she fasted stayed hungry all day for him, he comes back and they fight, and what does he say later, Itna toh Shagun ne bhi mere liye kabhi nahi kiya' Are you kidding me right now Raman, you are comparing your monster witch of an ex wife who left you high and dry to your present wife! Forget being thankful for her fasting this is what he thinks and that is followed by, madrasan ne mummy ko impress karne ke liye fast kiya', But I can't blame Raman or Ishita, they are humans and they err, none of us are perfect in our relationships otherwise how boring would our lives be!

And I completely agree Raman ka gussa bilkul gayaz hai, and Ishita is in the wrong here for ignoring her family but that in my eyes doesn't translate into her being callous and not loving Raman. She in her mind is doing this to save Raman from Ashok's yet another devious plan. She is trying to save HER man from yet another heart break. We can question the manner in which she might be doing things but we can't question her motive.

Chalo I took a study break in the morning to type this, now afternoon I have to hit the books hard! Hopefully Ishita redeems herself in your eyes soon! And like always feel free to let me know where you don't agree with my post, I will pakka reply.

Hoping for a great episode today!

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rusira

😛 Wow so beautifully written


Thanks Rusia!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Amii90


I get so lost in your beautifully written posts that I forget about the inconsistencies and some flaws of the actual episode and the recent track! I actually don't know what I feel about this recent track - its just meh! I see the intent behind this track but somehow it is not working like it feels like they are out to bring out feelings of the characters by hook or crook! I agree with your reply above to some post that Subbu's entry would have been more impactful and perhaps served the purpose better!

Mani's entry as a friend to bring playful jealous moments etc would have been just fine- but nothing more than that! It just does not connect to me to see his character being root cause of problem in Ishra's relationship! Even both Ishra in the show have expressed the same that Mani is just a friend so there is no need for Raman to be extra conscious of him or to spy on his wife and nor does Ishita should feel the need to hide stuff about Mani from Raman! But it seems like they are just presenting situations at hand which makes both audiences and characters think otherwise! (Do I even make sense lol? )

Yes at times you need an external force as a catapult to bring out those feelings vocally that you won't do otherwise because we take people and relationships for granted many times; however, that should also come along with something called self realization! Waiting to see that happen with a full fledged scene of a deep conversation of both of them where they give voices to their feelings, insecurities, fears, etc!!


Thanks Gurl! You are right there so many inconsistencies in the show. I agree this Mani track had a lot of potential had it been done right, and lately they are making Ishita and Raman do things that usually they wouldn't like for example Ishita lying to Raman today, it didn't go with the storyline or Ishita' character but it was done conveniently to plant that seed of doubt in Raman's mind. And I think a third person was needed especially for this couple and more importantly for Raman because he would have never realized that there is a potential that he could lose Ishita, for Ishita the treat of Shagun always persisted. I think they had realized that they care for each other above and beyond Ruhi ke liye, they just needed that push. And how I wish they had Subu return instead of a half baked character called Mani who sprung out of no where.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: swathibalan

Wonderfully written Doc.. No beating about the bush.. to the point. Amazing

Ghalibs poetry took it to another level..👏


Thanks Swathi!!! And I am so glad you like Ghalib! I was telling Gan I was not gonna use it but then couldn't stop myself.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Beautiful review of the episode 👏👏👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thank you Dipsi!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: v_ani_patel

Beautiful post ...

And completely agree with u..
both love each other ..both did so many things in the name of family or ruhi ke lite ..now they have to actually move on to become hubby-wifey..both have expectations from each other..ishita is an initiator of their relationship ( unknowingly) but Raman's insecurity of past marriage is stopping him to step fwd in their relationship.. He has to come out of this then only they can start his life with ishita as truly married couple..till now he gave mixed signals to ishita so is confused.. And till she will not get clear signal or direct words from Raman she will not step fwd..and Raman needs someone other then his close ones to push him out of secure zone of friendship..both will pass through a painful phase of their life to get happy life ahead..
I'm very much interested in this track ..looking fwd ..


Thank you!! I couldn't have said it better, that this couple needs to move forward and needs that push! I am just hoping that the CV's handle this track with care and do not make Ishita or Raman do uncharacteristic things like Ishita ignoring Ruhi during breakfast, other than that let's see how this track progresses. I can't wait when Ishita finds out that Raman is upset with her friendship with Mani, I wanna see how she makes amends.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Beautiful review of the episode 👏👏👏


Thank you very much! I myself am a fan of your writing! After my exam, I am gonna take out time and stalk all your writing 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Doc,
Will you agree this is all inching towards somehow being RAMAN'S fault? Raman turning out to be a insensitive jerk? Ishita being all mahaan only trying to HELP RAMAN's family with her bestestest friend?

Raman is somehow being demonized in all this

Maybe a 7:30 Bhartiya Naari slot effect, but this stinks...
In a week we will have Raman apologizing to her, and trying to make amends all over again... while she goes off to another none of her business venture

I suspect this is a Ishita canonizing venture...
I cringe even thinking about Mani and her finding a drunken Raman on the street. Is that fair to him?
I mean he was being SO NICE to her, he was FASTING for her... she will go find him... with her bestestest friend... and Raman will have to listen to another lecture about how horrible he has been in suspecting his "Devi jaisi patni"

I am hoping for CVs to surprise me, but having watched Desi soaps for a decade and a half I know it aint comin
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nisha0604

Doc,

Will you agree this is all inching towards somehow being RAMAN'S fault? Raman turning out to be a insensitive jerk? Ishita being all mahaan only trying to HELP RAMAN's family with her bestestest friend?

Raman is somehow being demonized in all this

Maybe a 7:30 Bhartiya Naari slot effect, but this stinks...
In a week we will have Raman apologizing to her, and trying to make amends all over again... while she goes off to another none of her business venture

I suspect this is a Ishita canonizing venture...
I cringe even thinking about Mani and her finding a drunken Raman on the street. Is that fair to him?
I mean he was being SO NICE to her, he was FASTING for her... she will go find him... with her bestestest friend... and Raman will have to listen to another lecture about how horrible he has been in suspecting his "Devi jaisi patni"

I am hoping for CVs to surprise me, but having watched Desi soaps for a decade and a half I know it aint comin


Really? How is this Raman's fault and how will Raman be an insensitive jerk? I do not think Raman is being demonized and Ishita is being Mahan. This is as much Raman's fault as Ishita's fault for doing a poor job at defining her relationship with Mani, if anything Raman is only reacting to the situation he sees albeit clouded by his past.
And here is how I look at Raman being drunk, he used to do it when Shagun hurt him. Now Ishita has taken that spot in his life and he cares so much and is affected by her so much that he takes to drinking in despair. Ishita may react to him drinking in a manner that you or I won't like but that again is being done for drama and TRP.
I actually love drunk Raman, and this only proves how much he cares or dare I say 'loves' Ishita that he is drinking away his 'sorrows'

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