Raman Kumar Bhalla: Broken & Still Mending (Updated: Pg 2)

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I lurk silently around this forum and know most of you, though it is likely you do not know me.

I haven't penned my thoughts like this about a show in over a year...bear with me. I am too moved today to not allow myself time to reflect. This might turn out to be a long post...

Raman.

How frustrated this man must be to carry the burden of his emotions deep within him and find that he is simply unable...too afraid...to emote.

He hung his head as if ashamed of himself for not looking after her better when the doctor was saying she shouldn't be fasting.

Words can't express how moved I am after today's episode...I'm so touched at the beauty and depth of his love for Ishu...a love that's silent and strong, and yet unknown to him.

How did he get here? To this place where he's rooted just outside her door, unable to take his eyes off of her, breaking under the assault of her weakened, near-lifeless form, longing for a reaction, any reaction, from her. My heart stopped when he pressed his hand up against the door. The door, a metaphor for the invisible wall between them...the barrier, that both are perhaps too afraid to cross. We haven't heard the male version of the BG score in a while (in fact, I can't remember when we heard it last...am I making this up? Are we hearing it for the 1st time? I could swear I think we've heard it before...), but it was perfect in that brief moment...where it was just him, and her, and his heart, pleading with hers, to hear his silent request, and respond accordingly.

"Tumse jhagde bina mera mann nahi lagta...utho meri Jhansi Ki Rani." His plead to her, his consistent, silent prayer to whatever higher power there is...it was all evident in those few moments as he stood rooted outside her door. He said those words to her then, in the safety zone...for if that barrier was not there, he may not have the courage to show his vulnerable heart to her.

[...allow me to digress for a moment. We've her him call her meri biwi plenty of times, but hearing him say "meri JKR" today tugged at my heart. This is the first time Mr. RKB has tagged her as HIS in such an endearing way. My heart can't take it. I'm so touched.]

Ahem, coming back...
Hence the outburst when he DID cross the threshold of her room when he was told she finally regained consciousness. Or was it? You'd think he again protected his heart and masked his fear the only way he knew how...by covering it in a blanket of anger. But really, that wasn't the case at all. This time, he wasn't hiding his fear. He was voicing it. Loud and clear. "Navratri khatam hote hote tum khatam ho jaaogi." ...If anything happens to you, what will I do?

His anger was not misplaced at all. In fact, don't we all do the same? When a loved one is injured or unwell, after the initial "are you ok?", we become angry with them for not taking better care of themselves, for we couldn't fathom if something were to happen to them. That anger was his love, fear, guilt, all rolled into one...and his inability to conceive what he would do if anything were to harm her for she, as he said, was his strength...

Rewind to that scene.

He sees his brother and saali openly declare their love for each other, share a warm embrace...and he is moved to tears because he misses her. They've never shared such lovey dovey moments as the one he's just witnessed between MiMi, and yet, he finds himself reminiscing about moments with her that he didn't realize were special for him...moments that would perhaps seem mundane to an outsider, but for him, it was those small mundane moments with her which he cherished.

That was all it took. That small realization that he felt for her...and the floodgates opened. Suddenly, he was broken under the weight of his pain, fear, guilt, frustration. It was all too much to bear and every emotion flowed out of him in the form of his tears.

We've seen RKB break down before, in a drunken stupor, for his child.

But we have never seen RKB break down like this...in a fully conscious state, for his wife.

My heart went out to this broken man today. A man who was left so devastated by his past that it has lead him to be unable to show his loved ones how much he cares. (How shattering it must be to be unable to tell the one person that has come to be the center of your world, just how much they mean to you...how frustrated he must be with himself to be unable to just voice it...) Hence the unbearable guilt of the harsh words and teasing he's thrown her way, and the display of indifference...the guilt of only taking from her, his strength, and not being able to give anything in return. His final statement, "kuch nahi hoga usse", was perhaps his testament to her giving nature...she was his strength...and she herself wouldn't take that away from him. She'd be okay because she had to know...he needs her.

Cut to Mani...I'll make this quick 'cause I don't wanna spend too much time on him (he's not worth it).

I have to just say it. Who the heck is this guy?!?! He makes me so mad. I was enjoying Raman's realization when he initially showed up, but now, he's just unbearable. He's done what he came to do, and now I'm ready for this guy to pack his bags and exit. What authority does he have to tell Raman how to behave - that too, in front of his kid and wife. I was miffed...

...and so very glad when Raman walked up to him and said "we need to talk".

Those words from Raman were music to my ears. Finally, two mature adults, having a mature discussion...or so I thought. I so wanted Raman to give Mani a piece of his mind...but the conversation didn't go as I expected at all.

I was under the impression that Raman would simply say "I appreciate your help and concern, but I can take care of my wife, so I'd appreciate it if you'd say within the limits of your friendship." Never had I expected Raman to try and prove himself as a good husband to this man, and quite honestly, I don't think it was needed. He simply does not owe this character, who showed up yesterday, any explanation what-so-ever. He preaches to Raman about not knowing his own wife, about manners and relationships, while simultaneously judging a man he doesn't know a thing about.

I've had enough of Mani. He left a horrible taste in my mouth today.

But back to Raman feeling the need to explain himself...and I'll end with this. I simply don't think the explanation, the need to prove anything, was warranted. Now whether Raman is trying to prove himself to Mani or lay his own guilt at ease by recounting the moments in which he's been there for his wife as a silent pillar in her moment of need, I simply don't know. Mani voiced something Raman was already aware and afraid of today..."what have you given her in this marriage?". Perhaps he was simply answering that question for himself...to validate that he's not been a total failure as a husband...It's possible, and if that's the case, I can understand; but I don't want Raman to be so threatened by this outsider, and have an inferiority complex so deep as to feel he needs to prove himself.

My heart went out to Raman today. He's still so broken under the rubble of his past, but with the help of his JKR, he's on his way...finally, after 6 long years, his heart is mending, albeit slowly...perhaps as it should. His rediscovery of love where he least expected it, this journey he's set upon is simply beautiful. I look forward to seeing where it will lead.

Last but not least, Ru and her Ishima today. *sigh* What a beautiful bond of unconditional love.

Thanks for bearing with me and allowing to indulge myself. Happy Tuesday, Everyone!

Love,
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PS: KP is brilliant. He out-does himself with each consecutive performance and embodies the very essence of RKB. He is a master of his craft...his boundless talent is flawless and unparalleled.



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beautifully written... raman's reaction was so natural n heart wrenching...
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Beautiful post Payal👏...worded the emotions of the man called Raman Kumar Bhalla so well...😊. Yes he is broken...and mending...and the journey of this man...along with Ishita and Ruhi is what has made YHM what it is for the last 10 months. .
Res for now...will edit soon..lot more to say😊
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Very beautfully written my heart did go out for Raman and I am a huge KP fan so such a heart touching performance !!!
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Could'nt have said it better myself :-)..I have feeling that Mani is on his way out so let him stir up the pot while he leaves right?


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I loved the post, but I have two opinions, bear with me, I have become extremely opinionated lately. I loved Raman today, and my heart went out to him. His outburst at Ishita not eating too was justified, I have reacted like that with my sister in the past when she was being an insolent child. He is slowly understanding what she means to him, something he always kind of knew but did not express.

Though, Mani never told Raman how to act in front of his wife and kid. In fact he wasn't even planning to until Raman confronted him. The confrontation was required. Raman knows he is wrong somewhere deep down, for not giving Ishita his full love and attention, for neglecting such an important thing as her health, and her genuine efforts to fit in, by means of jokes. I have never said that Raman did not care for Ishita, he does. But I feel that, he has gotten used to being bitter and pampered by his family. Everything he does is most often deemed as okay, when sometimes they are not. Raman swivels a lot in his behaviour towards Ishita, which was getting a bit much for me to bare. Raman started off by saying Mani was not a good friend, and he has always been there for Ishita, he justified himself, because somewhere he knew he was guilty. He knew that he could have been better, but his ego doesn't let him see that. Mani has not been a good friend, and should not be commenting, but he was provoked, and when provoked, he told Raman what he thought, which from his eyes was correct. He has not seen Raman being caring towards her, he has only seen his rough side. He is going by what he has witnessed, which is why he says he has failed as a husband. He was the voice of reasoning to Raman today, much like Raman vs. Raman the other day. We have a part of our mind that rationalizes our actions for self preservation, and it tends to overpower the our ability to evaluate ourselves fully. Mani was that part of Raman's brain, that showed him that

Hey, you have done a lot for your wife, you do care, but then you also take her for granted sometimes. You might have feelings, but you never show it. Look what other people see, look what you might be doing to her. You need to be softer, kinder because she has not had it easy either. You need to control your temper for the sake of the person you love. To me, I ignored Mani as a third party, because I knew he was temporary, I look at him as Raman's conscience, simply encouraging him to be better. He has never insulted him in front of his family, nor has he said anything to break them up. He spoke to Raman in the confines of a solitary room, when Raman's inherent guilt caused him to confront. I saw it as rather poetic. Where Raman's guilt forced him to confront his conscience, and question himself.

My view is don't take Mani seriously, he is not here to create a daraar, but only make Raman realize his love and break down the walls his ego and his past has built over the years. I have been watching this show since the start, and tbh the way the writers have handled it, there was no room for self-realization, because they have been through so much, yet no fire. A catalyst had to be brought in.

Also, do realize that Ishita has had her share of pains as well, she has been hurt and insulted for things out of her control. She doesn't show it, but it still haunts her sometimes. We need to understand that both our characters have barriers on their hearts that they themselves refuse to lower. This track has done well thusfar to help bring those down through an external force.
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I haven't penned my thoughts like this about a show in over a year...bear with me. I am too moved today to not allow myself time to reflect.

Raman.

How frustrated this man must be to carry the burden of his emotions deep within him and find that he is simply unable...too afraid...to emote.

He hung his head as if ashamed of himself for not looking after her better when the doctor was saying she should be fasting.

Exactly, it was like he took all the blame upon him, and then looked over at Mani to see if he shared that blame (to not have been a better person to her all this time) but obvisouly Mani didn't. Mani is back in her life for only a few days, so he can't feel what is Raman feeling right now. Loved the difference of bodu language in that scene : raman lowering himself and mani sitting straight, unphased.

Words can't express how moved I am after today's episode...I'm so touched at the beauty and depth of his love for Ishu...a love that's silent and strong, and yet unknown to him.

Totally agree, and with this unspoken love, there is a deep need for her in his life. Not as his wife, or friend or as the mother of his child, but as Ishita. Raman needs Ishita, purely and simple. It's not about what she can do for him, or WHAT she means to him, she just is someone important to him and he needs her.

How did he get here? To this place where he's rooted just outside her door, unable to take his eyes off of her, breaking under the assault of her weakened, near-lifeless form, longing for a reaction, any reaction, from her. My heart stopped when he pressed his hand up against the door. The door, a metaphor for the invisible wall between them...the barrier, that both are perhaps too afraid to cross. We haven't heard the male version of the BG score in a wile, but it was perfect in that brief moment...where it was just him, and her, and his heart, pleading with hers, to hear his silent request, and respond accordingly.

Exactly. That door was both a barrier and a shield at the same time.

"Tumse jhagde bina mera mann nahi lagta...utho meri Jhansi Ki Rani." His plead to her, his consistent, silent prayer to whatever higher power there is...it was all evident in those few moments as he stood rooted outside her door. He said those words to her then, in the safety zone...for if that barrier was not there, he may not have the courage to show his vulnerable heart to her.

First I thought that maybe this "MERI" was forced our way from the cv's so I was rejecting it. But then I looked back at it and accepted it : raman has been putting up a front of a man who doesn't to love or to be loved, but in that moment, he allowed himself to whisper out loud for the first time that Ishita was HIS [insert anything you want]. They may fight a lot, but it's THEIR little fights, he taunts her a lot too, but he taunts something that is HIS. Ishita might have been a lot of people's friend, she even almost became someone else's wife (subbu, and the second fiance whose name I forgot) but she is HIS JKR only. Basically he admitted that Ishita meant something to him and not on the base of the "sirf ruhi ke liye" contract, not even under the wife status, Ishita means something to Raman.

[...allow me to digress for a moment. We've her him call her meri biwi plenty of times, but hearing him say "meri JKR" today tugged at my heart. This is the first time Mr. RKB has tagged her as HIS in such an endearing way. My heart can't take it. I'm so touched.]

Totally understand the way you feel ! By saying "my wife" he gave her a place in his life under the status of the woman he married (which is quite limited when you look at it). By saying "my JKR" he gave her a place without any condition and under no status.

Ahem, coming back...

Hence the outburst when he DID cross the threshold of her room when he was told she finally gained conscious. Or was it? You'd think he again protected his heart and masked his fear the only way he knew how...by covering it in a blanket of anger. But really, that wasn't the case at all. This time, he wasn't hiding his fear. He was voicing it. Loud and clear. "Navratri khatam hote hote tum khatam ho jaaogi." ...If anything happens to you, what will I do?

Raman was at first totally calm, he told her "no more fasting" and he considered it like a sealed deal but Ishu surprised him (and myself) by saying that she would continue the fast. I WANTED to shake her out of her fast but that's not the way to treat a patient right? so if I had been in the room with her I would have CONVINCED her to eat, but Raman has a short temper so he started to shout. I'm not surprised by his outburst at all. The more she insisted, the more he got angry and tensed up because he was reminded of all that happened, like when he says "behosh hogayi ho!"

His anger was not misplaced at all. In fact, don't we all do the same? When a loved one is injured or unwell, after the initial "are you ok?", we become angry with them for not taking better care of themselves, for we couldn't fathom if something were to happen to them. That anger was his love, fear, guilt, all rolled into one...and his inability to conceive what he would do if anything were to harm her for she, as he said, was his strength...

"Do you even realize how worried I got because of you?" Raman's voice, and his expression... MASTERPIECE. The light tremble at the end of his line showed how genuinely affected he was and how it's painful to even think about it, even now that Ishita is "awake and fine".

And that "Bas!" he says that to her about her fast but also to himself "Bas. Stop thinking about all that, she is fine now, let's move forward." And I'm pretty sure he was teary eyes at this moment.

Rewind to that scene.

He sees his brother and saali openly declare their love for each other, share a warm embrace...and he is moved to tears because he misses her. They've never shared such lovey dovey moments as the one he's just witnessed between MiMi, and yet, he finds himself reminiscing about moments with her that he didn't realize were special for him...moments that would perhaps seem mundane to an outsider, but for him, it was those small mundane moments with her which he cherished.

I wished they had picked the dance in the rain instead of the trip-catch-eyelock scene because I'm pretty sure this moment was more meaningful to Ishita than him. You could argue that it probably meant a lot for him but he didn't show it but I think it's more Cv's/editors laziness that is in cause. They picked up the first scene they thought of...

That was all it took. That small realization that he felt for her...and the floodgates opened. Suddenly, he was broken under the weight of his pain, fear, guilt, frustration. It was all too much to bear and every emotion flowed out of him in the form of tears.

SO TRUE : he felt. There is no need for a noun after those two words. Now here it is the flooding of tears. I wondered why you didn't mentioned it above.

Karan's acting : 👏👏👏

We've seen RKB break down before, in a drunken stupor, for his child. But we have never seen RKB break down like this...in a fully conscious state, for his wife.

👏👏👏

My heart went out to this broken man today. A man who was left so devastated by his past that it has lead him to be unable to show his loved ones how much he cares.

Hence the unbearable guilt of the harsh words and teasing he's thrown her way...the guilt of only taking from her, his strength, and not being able to give anything in return.

His final statement, "kuch nahi hoga usse", was perhaps his testament to her giving nature...she was his strength...and she herself wouldn't take that away from him. She'd be okay because she had to know...he needs her.

THIS . ALL OF THIS.

Cut to Mani...I'll make this quick 'cause I don't wanna spend too much time on him (he's not worth it). 😆

I have to just say it. Who the heck is this guy?!?! He makes me so mad. I was enjoying Raman's realization when he initially showed up, but now, he's just unbearable. He's done what he came to do, and now I'm ready for this guy to pack his bags and exit. What authority does he have to tell Raman how to behave - that too, in front of his kid and wife. I was miffed...and so very glad when Raman walked up to him and said "we need to talk".

I've stopped paying attention to Mani for now. All I know is that he is meddling to much in Ishita's life (notice how I said ISHITA and not IshRa's life. Mani is too much onto Ishita to begin with.) Why does he behave like that when he knows Raman is around ?

Those words from Raman were music to my ears. Finally, two mature adults, having a mature discussion...or so I thought. I so wanted Raman to give Mani a piece of his mind...but the conversation didn't go as I expected at all.

Those cv's know how to ruin our expectations !

I was under the impression that Raman would simply say "I appreciate your help and concern, but I can take care of my wife, so I'd appreciate it if you'd say within the limits of your friendship." Never had I expected Raman to try and prove himself as a good husband to this man, and quite honestly, I don't think it was needed.

That was literally painful to watch. "I did this ... and I did that... what did you do uh?" SERIOUSLY RAMAN?

He simply does not owe this character, who showed up yesterday, any explanation what-so-ever. He preaches to Raman about not knowing his own wife, about manners and relationships, while simultaneously judging a man he doesn't know a thing about.

Yes, he didn't need to do that

plus it made it feel like he was making this whole matter about him when Ishita should be the main concern of everyone.

Also I didn't like that he insulted Mani and Ishita's friendship. Friendship, even from afar, even when you don't assist to your bestie wedding, is still friendship. Raman was unfair to mani (I'm not defending mani, I'm defending friendship) : mani wasn't here so Raman is judging him, and now mani is HERE and raman doesn't like it... MEH.

I've had enough of Mani. He left a horrible taste in my mouth today.

But back to Raman feeling the need to explain himself...and I'll end with this. I simply don't think the explanation, the need to prove anything, was warranted. Now whether Raman is trying to prove himself to Mani or lay his own guilt at ease by recounting the moments in which he's been there for his wife as a silent pillar in her moment of need, I simply don't know. It's possible, but I don't want Raman to have an inferiority complex so deep as to feel he needs to prove himself.

Agree.

I'd add to that, that under all of it, there was a hidden message from Raman to Mani, and it was "YOU'RE FAKE AS HELL !" : "bohot natak dekli, bohot baate sunli teri", "you're an angel to the madrasan, but you don't phase me." And that I liked !!

My heart went out to Raman today. His rediscovery of love where he least expected it, this journey he's set upon is simply beautiful. I look forward to seeing where it will lead.

Try not to have too high expectations, just in case cv's ruin it all...

Last but not least, Ru and her Ishima today. *sigh* What a beautiful bond of unconditional love.

Thanks for bearing with me and allowing to indulge myself.

🤗It takes time to write such a long post so thank YOU for putting the effort and sharing it with us .🤗


PS: KP is brilliant. He out-does himself with each consecutive performance and embodies the very essence of RKB. He is a master of his craft...his boundless talent is flawless and unparalleled.

So So right. I was wondering why you didn't mentioned it above. but here it is !

Edited by rajji-cutest - 10 years ago
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Very well articulated 👏
Raman - and KP- truly was phenomenal yesterday.. 👏 and the whole mending/healing process has been brought out fabulously so far.. Yes Raman has to heal, but along with Raman so does Ishita... and it's brilliant writing as pointed out by several others on this forum via awesome posts that the healing of both of them has been brought out in tandem.. now he also knows her and her hurt.. as does she.. hereon their journey is going to be more beautiful..

Mani may have said a Lil too much but Raman did need it.. and Raman is only going to be a positive influence on their relationship -or so I believe as of now..

Ruhi.. is a born performer... nothing else to add.. 😊


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Today raman was not a broken man because ishita was ill. He was a broken man because, he realised in a SMALL small way how he has NOT been a good husband. This made him angry and he went to take it out on someone else. Usually its ishita. Today it was mani, who bless him didn't just say...kuch bhi hain...but when yelled at by raman with...its ME who took care of amma...ME who...me me me...where were you as a friend when ...1... 2...3... he told raman a truth as he had seen thus far.

You are right raman DIDN'T need to justify anything to mani. He was justifying it all to himself and he needed to do that...trying to make himself feel better. Just as he tried to make hiself feel better when he blamed romi in yesterday's episode for stressing ishita. Raman had stood behind romi who was painting a wrong picture to toshi and not only didn't he stop romi, or correct what romi said, he ENJOYED the rollocking toshi gave to ishita.

Raman was ALWAYS broken. He didn't break because of ishita's illness. He needs ishita, he has since day one. Cos if no ishita then no ruhi and also no one to take out his verbal diahrrea on. Today's and yesterdays episodes merely gave raman a reality check that he better start treating ishita somewhat like a human being and not a verbal punch bag IRRESPECTIVE OF WHETHER ISHITA PUTS UP WITH IT OR NOT.

Even in hospital its ...his fighting with her that he can't do without. He admits it. Except its not been a fair fight for a long time has it? Ishita calls him ravan kumar in jest, what else does she say?. He call her kachra, tells neighbours her choice is sadoo from beginning, that her face is darravna, she is bewakoof, madrasi is used as an insult. And lets not forget the shreaking and screaming, which yes, Mani was bang on right to point out to raman. Why? Because even his own daughter knew what would happen ...papa phir gussa honge...whether mani said it for ruhi's said or ishita's or both...SOMEONE needed to say it.

As for the convo where raman tells mani to back off...well like I said in some other post, raman asked for what he got to hear from mani...coz he said to mani "we need to talk" If you demand to talk to someone then you get to hear something too! Its just that our puttar is not used to getting any heat back and even this time he didn't. All mani said was...you have failed in building a relationship, which is true! Even raman knows its true.

As far as mani having rights or otherwise...he never felt he had the right...like I just said...raman went and demanded the conversation...its just that it didn't go raman's way😆

One good thing everyone seems to have missed...raman demanded...where were you when subbu dumped her etc etc...Now we will get to hear mani's story and so ishita's too in greater detail.😃 Why wasn't he there for her prior to raman turning up. I don't think its going to merely be that he was out of the country, too busy or that he didn't care.

Sometimes we are our own worst enemies and we made our own and others lives a misery while blaming some past incidence in our lives and take it out on other ppl. Such behaviour is no reason to feel sorry for someone doing that. Raman's tragedy is so far no one has stood up to him when he is out of order and so he sorts himself out. Plenty of men's wives leave them for another man and vice versa. Yeah its a major thing and its painful but to use that as an excuse and justification for the way raman behaves most of the time? Yeah the show sells it that way coz they have to givea reason for the way he behaves..now mani can be the reason why he finally stops. Mani is definitely worth it and we should thank him.

Sometime the medicine we need doesn't always taste nice.😳
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^^^^^ Clearly if Raman is such a wrong Man then Y is Ishita falling in love with such a monster?
It wud b better for her to leave him n live her life in peace.


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