Thanks for the responses guys, I will come back and repsond to each of you individually later when time permits, however, I felt the need to clarify my stand with Mani.
I was telling Rajji yesterday that I absolutely loved the episode, mostly, for one reason: Raman, was shown the mirror yesterday, and it was very much needed. The two things I loved about yesterday's episode were: Romi told Raman that he treats Ishita like crap, and, Raman realizing in the conversation with Mani and the doctor, that Mani knows more about his wife than he does. These two incidents were IMPERATIVE for Raman. Someone needed to show him the mirror for him to realize that maybe he does go overboard in his biting remarks towards her and, that maybe, she was right when she said "you dont' know me at all".
This realization came crashing down on Raman like a ton of bricks yesterday, and hence, I'm not at all surprised that he broke down today the way he did.
My point it, Mani did this. He brought Raman to these conclusions about his equation with Ishita, and it was, indeed, very much needed.
That said, maybe I wasn't clear in my post, the words of Mani that left a bad taste in my mouth where the ones he uttered in Ishita's room as Ruhi was feeding her mother. When he said "anger doesn't solve anything". I just didn't think those words from him were needed then. In that moment, when Raman was shedding a tear over the beauty of Ruhi-Ishita's bond, I found it to be a snide, distasteful remark. That is what left a bad taste in my mouth, and that is why I am having a hard time digesting Mani now and wouldn't mind if he returned to Turkey. - Not because he again showed Raman the mirror today...I'll get to that.
Coming to Raman's confrontation with Mani today, I was disappointed because it wasn't an adult conversation, which is what I would have preferred. And yes, I realize it's because Raman lashed out at the man. I was actually disappointed with Raman in how he handled it all, which is where my frustration with the whole thing stems.
I wanted Raman to simply draw the line for Mani, not going proving himself, because I didn't want Raman to take an offensive stance; rather, I would have preferred he act maturely.
So yes, I agree, Mani was provoked. And I also agree, that it was needed because he showed Raman the mirror again today. But I also found his remarks to be a bit judgemental...he doesn't know the Raman the way Ishita does...he knows nothing of this man's plight. So why pass judgement?
Back to being shown the mirror - I did mention that perhaps Mani voiced what Raman already knew and was afraid of when he said "what have you given her in this relationship?". And perhaps Raman was simply answering that simple question for himself, validating to himself that he has been there for Ishita in times of need, and if that's the case, then, yes, it makes perfect sense. However, if he was doing it to justify himself to Mani, then I think it was simply uncalled for. I don't want RKB to have to explain himself to anyone that's not intimately aware of the relationship he shares with his wife. So outside of Ishita and their immediate family, he owes no one any explanation.
Coming to his plight vs. Ishita's plight, I could not agree more. I am in no way standing up for Raman in his hot & cold behavior towards his wife. Which is why Romi's accusations yesterday were needed. Raman needed someone to make him realize that he does go overboard in his biting remarks towards her.
I said this to Rajji yesterday, and I will copy-paste it here:
I feel like Ishita has repeatedly been introduced to Raman's plight, but not vice versa. What I would give for Raman to really be introduced to Ishita's plight as a whole. I mean, sure, he's seen her break down when she's jabbed at about being infertile, and he's seen her reminisce over the love she had for Subbu, but beyond that, what does he really know about this woman, her pain, turmoil, healing process, and the most importantly, what she's hiding behind that 24-7 smile. There's so much depth to the character and its all uncharted territory...I wish they'd probe at it a bit.
I would want nothing more than for these two to have a heart to heart in which Raman does become intimately aware that she too has been through it, she too is broken, and still mending.
I do believe that this track, and MANI, were much needed. I think all of this is only helping Raman realize he he needs to soften towards her, and I'm thankful for that, because lets face it, without that bit of a push, RKB would never have gotten here. In the end, it will draw them closer to a point where, perhaps, they will be able to share the burdens of their hearts with one another...when that happens, Its going to be a sight for sore eyes.
I hope that made sense...Thank you!
~P
Edited by -Payal- - 10 years ago
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