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Posted: 10 years ago

#31

Originally posted by: Blue2020
I completely agree! I like this story line. Mani is a true best friend. I think they are showing this the realistic way. This track is to show Raman his feelings towards ishita. He will realize the importance of having her in his life.
I don't see anything wrong with the new on location video (when mani and Ruhi are feeding ishita).

I find this track/storyline so exciting 😊

I love this track too. @Bold, from what I saw, it was Ruhi who convinced Ishita, not Mani not Raman, so Ishita hasn't budged from her character.

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Posted: 10 years ago

#32

Originally posted by: kuhu_d
brilliant post-intact also i njoy the mani track. n i m much more confident now, that after some tutu-meme raman n mani will become great friends n mani is in fact the person who will make raman realise how much he actually loves ishu. n i agree wid the post, this way of jealousy track is soo soo much more mature than in any other serial. in those the leads get jealous n then confess BUT here in YHM the cvs r trying to make raman realise his love by believing that he knows nothing about her as mani, n that he is not good enough for her...

Exactly, its not a typical jealousy, its realistic. Realizing love wouldn't have been complete if they came back to tutu mai mai after it. It needs to be a complete transition from what they are now, to what they were before, for that he needs to realize how little he knows of her, and how much she means to him.

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Posted: 10 years ago

#33

Originally posted by: PyaarDostiHai

I just hope he doesn't end up giving her up. Typical Ekta track then 😭

Its likelier that Ishita will give Raman up to Shagun that this, dw.

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Posted: 10 years ago

#34

Originally posted by: Reina1

Okay, this is a good view of the other side. Because so far, I have only seen senseless bashing. Yeah I am kind of tired hearing Mani, but gosh its ten times better than 'Adi ke liye' and shagun shagun shagun. Its high time Raman's past take a backseat. We know enough about him, I think its important to see Ishita's past too. I don't think Raman's character is being compromised. He doesn't have to become Mani, Ishita wouldn't even like that. He just needed a major wake up call to realize that he needs to treat Ishita like a human. A love story does happen between two humans, and I wouldn't have enjoyed them falling in love if he continued to treat her that way. That being said, yes the bloopers have gotten ridiculous day by day. Thank you for the wonderful reply sweetie, I am so happy to hear a sensible response from the opposite side, I was so afraid of having chappals thrown at me.

Hehe thank you for replying so sweetly as well. 🤗Trust me both "sides" have gotten out of control. And contrary to popular belief it's not "Mani lovers" v "Mani haters". Mani is a temp character meant to move the story along and give Raman the wake up call (as you aptly put it) that he needs. It's more of a "Raman lover" v "Raman hater" thing. I wish we could go back to the times when we all loved YHM and just came here to talk about how much we love the show.

AND OMG YES! I've been waiting to here more about Ishu's past and her pain as well. A lot of people are like "Oh she's over it" but I really don't think that's true. She may be over Subbu but some part of her isn't over the pain of being rejected or being infertile and I've been waiting to see something about that. Enough of Raman's past (ie Shagun 🤢.. Anita is very pretty but way too much shagun...). Let him see Ishu's pain for once.

Btw I'm Mia. Is your name Reina? I keep talking to people without knowing their names and it's very weird for me 😆

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Posted: 10 years ago

#35

Originally posted by: .ProperPatola.
Thank you for the post...agree with every word...i am just shocked at the height of overeaction and hurling of abuses...though i shouldn't be, considering how the forum has turned in recent times
If we can bear Raman siding Apshagun...then why not the same with Ishu and Mani.

Exactly, I felt that somewhere, there was a double standard that stems from an innate love for the hero that people seem to have. ...Girls can have exes, and pasts and good friends too.

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Posted: 10 years ago

#36

Originally posted by: -Garima-
Reina! I can't thank you enough for posting such a sensible post that makes complete sense! People are hell bent on bashing Mani left right and center, when in actuality he's the reason for Raman's reality check! Raman needed this for the longest time! He needed to learn how to value Ishita and not take her for granted.. and in my opinion this is a great way to help Raman realize. Bashing Mani and as well as bashing Ishu will not get us any where.. we should seriously just trust the creatives and let them tell their story. The know what they're doing and have known ever since the show started.
Once again thank you so much Reina for posting a much needed and positive post! :)

Thanks Garima! I haven't been saying much, but I saw the outbreak on the recent on location video, and I was utterly confused. Then after posting this I surfed the forum and found a lot more of it. People are saying how Raman should have realized ishita's value on his own, without mani. But how much more does Ishita have to do for him to value her? How much more obvious does she need to be, and how much more can she deal with his indifference. Lets be honest, a guy like Raman needed a blast from the past. And by that I mean both Ishu's past, and a mirror from his own that would make him insecure. I trust the creatives, they haven't screwed up too badly just yet.😆

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Posted: 10 years ago

#37

Dont worry dear I will not throw chapals at u. I completely respect ur opinion n viewpoint n wud appreciate if u understand mine.

I absolutely agree that Raman realizing Ishita's worth is necessary, but so is Ishita's. So far the way things r shown it looks like only Raman needs a reality check n then un-necessary glorifying of Mani n showing Raman as a loud, angry n insensitive husband who behaves rudely at the hospital. As if the makers r trying to show a contrast between the two human beings. Again when Mani was shown explaining Ruhi her mother's condition, what was the point of that ? It cud have been done by Vandu too.

While the audience want to see Ishra love story, we get Mani jaap n Mani shown on the screen for 80% of time. I agree RKB is not a perfect Man but to prove that he is not perfect we dont need to see a Mani who is Mr Perfect. If RKB is flawed then so is Ishita in so many ways, we as an audience wud hate to see if another woman is brought into the picture to put her down (Shagun is no where near that perfect woman hence keeping her out of this equation).

If this track is about realization of Raman to be "the man in Ishita's life". It shud not b shown this way by showing him down, clearly there have been times when Raman has stood up for Ishita n shown his sensitive side to her in the past too. Also is Ishita really ready to be " the woman in Raman's life"? When she clearly misinterprets his words n thinks that Raman has loved only Shagun in his life n not ready to give love a 2nd chance. Ishita says to Raman "u dont understand me" but same applies to her as well.

The track wud have been wonderful if lets say Mani was not in the picture at all. Ishita faints n is really serious, Raman panics n knows that Ishita is going thru all this n has all these medical complications. He yells at Romi u dont know ur Bhabji's age, Romi yells back at him who r u to tell me all this when u urself r always taunting to her. Raman realizes his mistakes n is caring towards her. Ishita sees Ramans sensitive side and their story progresses.

I guess by adding Mani factor story is being concentrated around him. So far we have not seen him acting as a catalyst which brings Ishra together n if one fine day both Raman Ishita have n Eureka moment n if they show that Mani was only playing along in getting these two closer, it will not help.

This is just my opinion, hoping u wud understand it.

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Posted: 10 years ago

#38

Originally posted by: Reina1

@Bold 👏 yes. Their relationship is actually pure, and Mani is a good person. I guess its annoying that he is painted so perfect, but I think it just appears that way because he is placed against the flawed hero Raman. Mani has no ill-will, he only has his friend's life and happiness in mind. Any true friend would do the same. I am on mani's side because he is doing what any good man would. And amen to your last part, why can't he just be NICE? I know he's been through so much, but great way to hold on to your wife man...hey I will raise hell for this woman, but I will still continue to be rude to her. He needs to calm down. Ruhi is and always has been Ishu's voice of reason, but people are too caught up with bashing mani to see that.

Exactly! The thing is the on location video is messing with peoples minds. Mani and Ishita are friends that is all, and Ishita specially said that Mani respects that Ishita is married! I mean the fact is Ishita had food because of Ruhi, not Raman or Mani. Mani was just more tactful in making Ishita eat through Ruhi. And besides Ishita's heart beats for Ruhi! She will pick Ruhi over anything or anyone. Its a cute mother and daughter scene, and it also contributes to Raman realizing Ishita's important in his daughter's life yet again. I think people are just upset because they were expecting romance, and well there is no romance yet. RKB needs to be nicer, the minute he turns just a tad nicer he won't heave a reason to be insecure, because he will understand Ishita's importance in his life by then. But dude seriously if there is anyone who is to be insecure its Ishita, Shagun and Adi are always on behind to ruin anything good that happens in her life. I like how this time Raman is feeling insecure but in a positive way. We have to remember Mani is a POSITIVE character. Our ISHRA will come out with flying colors people! I would pick Mani over Shagun and drama company any day given!

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Posted: 10 years ago

#39

Originally posted by: PreciousPri
First off all Reina ... very well written dear and thank you for making this positive post 👏

After watching today's epi .. this is what I have to say

I swear ... I felt super bad for RKB ... he is going through a hard time...but this was needed... a reality check

Whether it was the convo cum argument with Romi...he needed to hear how his behaviour is at times... though he does not mean it ... have no such intentions at all... but this is how it comes across for the person receiving it and to a spectator

RKB's helplessness was so evident today esp while answering the Doc's questions ... this was a punch in his guts... as much as he wanted to do something for Ishita...help her... he couldn't ... and nothing can be worse than this type of helplessness !

It hurt him and it hurt us to see him like this...but I feel with this he will see Ishita and their relationship in a whole new perspective...for the better ...and for that I do thank Mani

Mani is here to bring back Happy Bhalla... but not turn RKB into Mani... rather to amalgamate Happy Bhalla with the standard typical RKB we know...

Why bash/hate Mani 🤔

So I am going to enjoy this track... let the CVs tell their story who are aware of what they are doing... I have faith in YHM

Pri I love how you put it. Yes I feel bad for him today, but somewhere there I didn't mind it, because he is so caught up in his own world, that he has never considered Ishita a person. I am sure she knows all his likes and dislikes and teeny details, because she cares. Today, Raman realized that just harboring feelings in your heart is not sufficient, you need to show it once in a while.

@Bold Mani is not here to morph Raman into him, as I said, even Ishita wouldn't want that. He just needs to care, and learn how reckless he has been with Ishita's heart. We would like to see some sensitivity in Raavan Kumar for a change.