Inconsistent and comprised story writing and characters-DT NT Pg7 - Page 12

Originally posted by: redwine1

Aaah dude ... ur one disgruntled customer ...

Well lets c .. the first time Ishita spoke about getting over Subbu . its in the episode where she convinces Tandon to Let Neel & Trisha get engaged .. her words ..

I also lost my first love ... & it took me a long time to get over that first love

Note she says .. GET OVER ..

in the next sentence she says ... Raman has not yet gotten over his first love .. so she was very clear where she stood ..

Next scene ... when she speaks to Raman about Subbu .. she cudnt have put it more equivocally about the fact that she is over Subbu . she says that man is OUT OF ME ..

now i know ur a man .. so let me explain this as a woman .. when a woman says .. i HAVE TAKEN THIS PERSON OUT OF ME .. it means .. i am over that person .. this person has no sway over any of my emotions . whether happy or sad .. one becomes indifferent to that person .. it means that chapter of the life is OVER ...

Now the writer has dedicated a 2 very important & LONG scenes to Ishita getting over her past .. for a character who has NO ACTUAL PHYSICAL PLAY in the story .. but as a mythical past .. i think its a scene to many ...

Now about .. Ishita gushing around Mani ... whoa dude .. have u ever met a school friend after years & years ... girls are exactly like this .. u rediscover ur youth .. a time when u giggled instead of smiled .. a time when u gushed instead of clenched ur words .. a time when u talked a mile instead of thot before uttering a single word ..

This is what Ishita is rediscovering .. she is rediscovering her youth .. & any viewer who has ever reconnected with his / her past friends specially school kinds would be able to identify with it ...

Just a kostin .. since i am one of the people to gush over "layered writing" .. did u by any chance wonder what is layered writing ... ? lemme know maybe i cud help throw light on it ..

lemme try helping u here what is layered writing in reference to what u have written about Ishita being "mature & level headed" well heres a woman who is clearly over the moon to meet a best friend since childhood ...she is gushing giggling et all .. just like a young girl ..

the next scene they show this same woman single handedly handle all the rituals of her household .. rituals she has no clue about ..

the next scene they show this woman talking to her husband about an issue pertaining to his ex .. which could potentially impact their 2 kids ...

Thats called layered characterisation ... this is a complete woman . she is an everyday woman .. one who wears many faces .. she is fun when the occasion demands ..she is responsible when responsibility is on her shoulders & she is the PERFECT PARTNER when the need arises ...

Originally posted by: redwine1

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#0000ff">Ahem these are legal papers .. which need to be registered & notarised .. also stamp papers ( believe me its not simple to get Rs. 100 stamp paper in India ... its not always readily available) need to be procured from a courthouse .. its not as simple as reprinting the paper ..</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#0000ff">This as Suraj rightly said .. could take days ..</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#0000ff">sometimes in our need to look for ILLOGIC in every daily soap since it comes from the Indian telly land .. we actually miss out on LOGIC ..</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#0000ff">Kostin ... did Mihika say she would not be able to use the clip in the Phone (i must've missed that dialog) .. also isn't she still using the same phone ...😲</font>

Originally posted by: always_a_TV_fan

@bold... U know this is d reason m loving Mani... The track is just not about jealousy.. It is smthn more... It is the phase that will bring Raman closer to ishita...

V have seen a lot of Raman till now his past his nature his fears almost everything... N I think its high tym dey do same wid ishita... V got very less of ishita till now... N Mani track is doing that job...

So at least till now m again saying ki Mani is harmless😆

Originally posted by: yyy

I would blame CV's for the confusing the viewers when it comes to Ishra's feelings for each other .In order to delay the confession they are playing see saw game where one day we see them getting closer and the next day they are back to square one.

I am might come across as a strong supporter of Ishita as I can relate to her.I am enjoying the current track and I have no complaints .Ishita is being herself she was always someone who was happy go lucky types who will hide her pain behind her smile .With Mani entry she has got back her college days and she met her old friend who genuinely appreciates her and with whom she can talk without any hesitation .Raman is not able to provide even such simple things to her.They cannot have a conversation without any taunts or arguments .It's not easy for a anyone to deal with a person who is always bitter .Raman might care for Ishita but that doesn't compensate for his mood swings.He can really be nasty when he is in a foul mood.

Ishita has always been the same.She behaves the same way with Bala too but people never complained as they knew that Bala can never come between Ishra .

I have a question to Raman's supporters ...Is it fair to expect Ishita to put up with Raman's nasty behavior all her life just because she married a divorcee with a painful past .Doesn't she deserve a some kind of love without being taunted in front of her parents,neighbours and friends .Whenever she sees Mihika or Vandu she might miss a normal life they have.

People claim that Raman has moved on and he no longer loves Shagun then why is he still so bitter ?Why does he still have concern about his ex wife's marriage ?Why does he get angry on Ashok when he gets to know that Ashok is two timings Shagun. This is not concern for his mother's kids ..he still has some feelings for Shagun and cannot stand when someone hurts her .The same Raman who is so bitter towards Ishita can normally talk to Shagun and Adi without taunting or losing his patience.This reminds me of Raman's famous dialogue to Ishita that she is getting what she deserves ..does that mean Ishita deserves a bitter Raman whereas Shagun deserves a loving Raman?

In one of the post someone had mentioned that how can Ishita sympathize with Shagun after what she has done to Raman .I can understand that as Ishita has never gone through that and she can never completly understand how much it pains when your spouse is having an affair behind your back .Subbu left her and then married someone ,he was never involved with another women when Ishita was in his life.

My question is how can Raman sympathize with Shagun even after going through the pain?He is being mahaan now or he can never stop loving Shagun even if she kills him.This cannot be justified with Shagun being mother's of his kids ...

As a viewer I still feel Raman has not moved on and he is being unfair to his present wife due to his past .

Originally posted by: Loveforlife

I think the question is not about supporting Raman's character or Ishitas's character... It's about the characters getting butchered in the process of creation of tracks. It's about the creatives going back and forth between what they have already shown and what they are showing.