Ishita Character Analysis and Ishra Journey

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Ok heres a take for Mancity i.e Vyas's challenge that he posted in his Rajma Daily Rantings to make a positive review out of Monday 29th September's episode. 😉 and also a take on Ishita.

I guess people were too upset on the spoilers that we got recently, Ashok mihika marriage and SHagun trying to get closer to RKB n hence we were not able to enjoy the episode telecasted yesterday.

My POV was that yesterday's episode was nice and laid down the future tracks nicely.

I agree to the point that CV's have made Ishita as a mystery on the show. We seldom get to hear what exactly is going on in her brain 😆 It is really difficult to deduce and also feel for the character, say the way we feel for RKB. Because what exactly RKB feels is shown to viewers properly.

I was super pissed at her for meddling her ways in Simmi's(meeting Param alone), Shagun's n then Sanjana's business. She erred big time in not sharing things related to the above incidents with her family and taking decisions alone on their behalf and working the solution out.

But I went back to how her character was since the beginning of the YHM. This is what I have deduced.This is what I have written in RI post too.

I think she was always Meddlesome, egoistic, Mahaan, selfish and an hypocrite right from the beginning.

She was Mahaan in roaming on Delhi streets in night time to treat patients. She was Mahaan in marrying a man she hates for the Kid she loves.

I saw her being meddlesome when she went to defame Raman after her parents were jailed while he was being interviewed for CEO of the year award. It was none of her business to go in front of the whole world and give lecture to RKB showing that he is not a good father. Just because he insulted her n her family in front of people it does not give her any right to do so. Just because he was wrong, doesn't mean that her wrong is Right.

She sided with SHagun without knowing the whole truth about Shagun when the nari mukti morcha came at Raman's doorstep n she gave Ruhi away to SHagun like a toy, without even realizing the whole affair. She just thought she is doing good to Ruhi, without realizing she is hurting rKB, Ruhi, all Bhalla family in doing so.

Did she ever apologized for these mistakes? NO.

But we(viewers) accepted it coz RKB was the insensitive careless jerk towards Ruhi since the beginning only during DNA track we saw him accepting her even if she was not his daughter n his love for her.

She was always expecting too much from her Husband, when Prateek said that if she can't say sorry to Raman instead of talking out the differences she broke her engagement with him. I m not saying that ki that Prateek guy wasn't a jerk. But every human being have some flaws. Ishita didn't accept it then, she is not ready to accept it now too RKB for the way he is. She wants her husband to behave or act according to her wishes. While prateek was ok if she was meddling into RKB's daughter n RKB's life but she could not accept Prateek for his one flaw. Call it hypocritical, selfish or plain egoistic. But she is just the way she is.

She was always selfish for falling for Ruhi, coz Ruhi somewhere filled her void of having a child. I agree she has done a lot for Ruhi, but so has RUhi done a lot for her (when Ruhi calls her mA, n when she says Y was I not borne out of U).

She was shown as Manipulative when she refused to believe Shagun although Bhallas hid an imp fact about Adi during Marriage. She lied to Shagun that she will not marry Raman n went on n married him. 😳

So all in all Ishita was always in her character when she did stupid things. N all her Flaws and virtues make her a Human being and as real character as possible 😊

Basically when Mani said that I waited my whole college life for that phone and now m regretting, its a great wake up call for both Ishita and Raman, they need to move past their problems, their egos and nature and start giving their Love much needed push. rather than waiting for the other person to let go and come n confess, they shud take it up on their sleeves and do it themselves.

So when she says that Y can't Raman b like Mani, it just means she always wanted a sensitive and understanding Husband as we have seen in Prateek case.

When she is happy about the fact that Raman has kept her photo as screensaver n wallpaper on his phone, she is enjoying the attention that her husband or say a person whom she loves is showering on her.

When she discusses the things she heard at the party were clear indicators of how she wants to discuss things related to Shagun that might affect her marriage She could have easily gone ahead n meddled again in Ashok n SHagun's life to solve the differences herself in her Mahaanta. but she chose to involve her husband in problems, that is a great step in working towards the marriage.

Ideally Mani should not b the person asking her if she loves her Husband or not. But the problem is she herself is truly confused about it. SO far whatever image she has made of Raman it is based on the facts that she has chanced upon or investigated not on the basis of having a heart to heart talk with Raman.

She expects Raman to be sensitive towards her, but she taunts him saying I didn't ask mohabbat from u but just a favor, if only she could have sweetly asked him once that can u come coz I want u to come? No her Ego comes in the way.

Again writing a take on what I feel about Ishra in YHM discussion thread.

We as viewers know that both ishra love each other subconsciously. but they r not showing it off on each other's face. They hide behind those nok jhoks or taunts.

Its a mixture of their ego, insecurity and also fear of rejection. They think that if the other person says NO it will b difficult to put up with this marriage ( its an marriage n they have to put up with the other person all their lives). Hence they think that they r happy in the place that they r currently.

They hardly talk to each other although both call themselves as Friends now.

I think this Mani character is exactly like a catalyst as per spoilers(Dictionary meaning catalyst - a substance that increases the rate of a chemical reaction without itself undergoing any permanent chemical change.) So he is going to speed up the process of making Ishra understand that they are falling in love with each other without letting Harm Ishra or coming in between Ishra love story.

Unfortunately couples like ISHRA who r egotistic on the surface need this physical push from outside to realize their true feelings.

These two call themselves as friends, but how many of friendly interactions have these two really had. They r clearly hiding their real feelings behind the veil of Friendship, sirf Ruhi ke liye conditions. 😆

Basically both of them, Ishita and Raman too are waiting for confession from other's side and they think that then they will give the other a chance of being loved. 😆 After Sanjana track I wanted a proper closure to their confusions, they just went ahead to being lovey dovey and flirty with each other. While Raman teased her about her feeling jealous and prodding her to accept the fact that she loves him. She went ahead and said I have nothing to say to u about her Balcony talk. Trying not to let him know about her true feelings. Then Raman gives it back to her that one day u will come to me n tell me about ur true feelings. 😳 Not once he tries to say that I like u or I liked what u said lets give our marriage a chance. not once she says I think I have started liking u.

This Shagun Track drama started with Ishita coming and telling Raman truth right in the beginning so I am hoping that in future they will solve this mess together.

According to me ishita thinks uni dimensionally- she only thinks from the affected person's POV (like Sanjana Track she thought of sanajana, but didn't think that she might hurt Raman) and Raman thinks Multi- dimensionally like in accident track he could relate to the hurt he was giving to ishita. But ultimately they both r right and wrong in their own ways in handling the circumstances that they face.

If they combine both their methods I think they will be able to do greater good. 😳

Just my pov on the current track - please feel free to agree or disagree with my comments😉.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Well i dont agree much on ishita's character analysis
I'll edit my reply later !
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi! Megha,
Love you

But couldnt disagree more sorry!

Will edit later hon!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Wow that was long and super in depth...wanna write my dissertation for me?! Lol

But honestly you made some awesome points, Ishita has always been kind of annoying (meddlesome and mahaan 🤢 )...I probably was the only one who sided with RMan when she pulled that stunt in the beginning...taking Ruhi to emerg after the medicine fiasco. Raman was right to call the cops on her and the fam...she took her neighbours kid out of the home in the middle of the night!!! Stranger Danger!!! Lol

I was like she's crazy...sure she saved Ruhi's life but that could've been accomplished without the creep factor if she had notified Toshi auntie...or anyone else in that house...but nope she just took the kid and dashed...I found that whole thing so weird!

Great post:))
Edited by sunny303 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I think you make some really good points except I don't think cvs actually create the character with so much in depth. I feel that every time a track is badly executed Kekta cvs make the woman Mahan and every time it's a thought out track each character behaves normal. In kektaaa shows the only thought out tracks are the ones written for gaining TRPs - like the 7:30pm slot change and the initial 50 episodes becos the cvs put I am feeling more time in it.

I have zero expectations from Indian TV shows, the daily format produces bad writing. Bad writing will also never have good deep characters

If they do a Ashok mihika track I shall be watching ishra online I like the mani chap I don't mind watching his interaction with ishita
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Great Post. I think both Raman and Ishita are flawed , its almost like they take turns.. I definitely think Ishita was totally wrong when she brought Param and shagun home, Actually more than the fact that she brought them home , the fact that she brought them without informing Raman is what bothers me. During Param fiasco, Raman was clearly upset that why couldnt she bring it up to him, did she think he wouldnt support/believe her.Inspite of that she went and brought the param guy home. The same goes with bringing Shagun home. She could have at least told him before hand but no she did what she felt was right. But at least she told him Sorry the next day though she could have apologised better. Again Sanjana fiasco , she went ahead and believed what ever she told, but they somehow managed it by having Raman say that she was jealous. And today her listening to Ashok though some find it meddlesome, i find it normal given her past history of meddling. I mean if she could bring a molester home by going in the middle of night, her feeling pity about Shagun doesnt surprise me at all. But the good thing is she spoke with Raman about it that's is a BIG step in Tele serial work according to me .
None of the tele serial characters can be potrayed realistically always, at times they need to go the illogical route for the sake of Drama and TRP. Though no women in real life would do things that Ishita does, but the fact that they make her do mistakes and sometimes make her take small steps to rectify is it by itself a big deal. Again those are very small steps which probably is nothing compared to the mistakes she did, but its still some what realistic. Again coming to Raman, though his character does have a realistic feel, there are so many things that he does/talks that no way would a man/husband do in real life. I mean my husband does make fun of me all the time, but oh boy if he does call me Kachra, he is going to take the wrath from me. I do understand that you know he is a short tempered guy and his ultimatum that if she meddles in other's life she will be out of his life , he probably doesnt really mean it in that sense, but it does come across very rude, and no women in real life would accept that, but again its a tele serial , so we will have to take it fictional character with little touch to reality 50% of times and illogical the remaining 50% of the times for our own sanity, because even the Romance that we enjoy is not realistic, I mean no hubby/wife would probably dance in the rain in the middle of the road 😆 at least mine doesnt, but that doesnt mean I dont enjoy it, so if we can accept the romance though its not logical, I think we have to accept some of this illogical characterization as well. The moment the characters take a turn of making no logical sense whatsoever that's when we call it quits.

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Originally posted by: columbia

I think you make some really good points except I don't think cvs actually create the character with so much in depth. I feel that every time a track is badly executed Kekta cvs make the woman Mahan and every time it's a thought out track each character behaves normal. In kektaaa shows the only thought out tracks are the ones written for gaining TRPs - like the 7:30pm slot change and the initial 50 episodes becos the cvs put I am feeling more time in it.

I have zero expectations from Indian TV shows, the daily format produces bad writing. Bad writing will also never have good deep characters

If they do a Ashok mihika track I shall be watching ishra online I like the mani chap I don't mind watching his interaction with ishita



I agree with this...I think the cvs bend and mold their own characters to fit the stories they create for them...and what they should do, what good writers do, is write the stories they want to but let the characters 'live' those stories as they truly should. Let the characters react to any give. Situation as themselves...don't change their true essence, the awesomeness that makes them them just so they do what you want them to do to fit your current track...let it be organic!

When this doesn happen you get the whole majboor Raman scenario that we all loved 🥱 lol

But YHM is better then the previous and only other Indian show I watched (Veera 🤢 )...I'm Canadian, and all the shows I watch, mostly American...try to keep shit real...the characters grow and live the stories written for them without losing themselves...well the good shows anyway (there are a lot of super shitty ones too).




I said it in another post...this whole Mihika/Ashok idea sounds wack...for it to go down the character of Mikhika would become unrecognizable...cuz no way in hell would a bad ass like her ever be compelled to marry that loathsome worm (he's damn sexy though 😳 )... It would go completely against everything she stands for...the cvs would be bending and Frakensteining her to fit their story...wack!
Edited by sunny303 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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First of all nice post.👏

Both Raman and Ishita had flaws like every person. Ishita character initially was shown as a strong and independent lady who because of her inability to conceive is getting rejected. From my point of view she was very matured and used to think before doing any thing( for first 1 to 10 Episodes). After entering Raman her thinking power and everything gone fussed.😆

Frankly speaking i did not like episode where Ruhi was hand over Shagun after Ishita created the drama in the TV station. I do not remember exactly but Raman dialogues to was about who gave her right to get herself involved in other life. Raman used this dialog more 100 times till now but Ishita never change.

I really loved Ishita when she asked parteek whether he want to get engaged or not. During DNA test drama and helping simmi and param.

So there are so many instance where i was angry with Ishita like recently bringing Param without asking anybody. Few minutes ago the head of the family says that they will talk about that creep next day, then why the hell she need to go and meet param. I did not get it. Sorry. If ever i do the same my f-i-l would have kicked me out of the house.

Off late i do not know but some thing is totally wrong with Ishita and with Sanjana track all hopes are gone. Now a days there showing Ishita as i do not care about any body feelings which i am not liking now. In fact if any body ask i would say that it is because of her immaturity that function was spoiled and instead of Raman if my husband was there he would have blasted me of in front of every body.

Ishita was thinking Raman to like mani which I felt little wrong because in lot of incidence Raman should lot caring for Ishita. Though may be intially he will scream but end of the day he will thats for sure.

Anyways i just hope that Ishita will not herself more involved in Shagun matter as it will hamper as well as destroy her life only.



Edited by venkata - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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There is nothing better than reading good stuff while travelling.
Rightly said Megha, Ishita have always been like this. Though how much it seems otherwise but she has been impulsive always. She didn't think before coming in front of car to save Ruhi and similarly handing over Ruhi to Shagun. Her personality has effects on both side of coin.
And regarding how she has been with Prateek and Raman, well after Subbu and hitting the reality that she cannot conceive, she doesn't wish to be taken like a spare piece, sympathies about her infertility and then marrying her is totally a off for her. She expects everything like a normal girl does but due to additional baggage, she expects even more. In Raman and Ishita relation, the real transformation happened when Raman took stand against Parmeet for Ishita. She was able to put her faith in that man thereafter.
And as far as confession is concerned,well previous experience makes person scared to take a step forward, forget about taking a leap of faith, even if the person standing in front is someone you can bet your life on. Same is happening with Raman and Ishita. Like said, both love each other unconditionally but have always tried to toss the subject out of window. With Mani coming in scene, Ishita could give another logic of flipping away the topic but she is already in love with this insensitive and hot headed Raman Kumar.
Abhimanyu is basically for making them answer themselves, those answers for which they question themselves but never has the guts to find answer.
Ishita and Raman can never go smooth till Shagun is there and if Shagun is gone the story wont progress. Like said, without hurdles one cannot find someone who could stand by you forever.
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Beautifully written post Megha. Couldn't agree more. To be frank I more like Ishita in my real life too. So I do get scoldings from my husband for being this way. But this is how I am and he has accepted me this way. But yes I have changed myself to a certain extent. May be that's I am able to relate more to Ishita's character compared to Raman as my husband is not like that 😆 I totally agree with KP being the one playing RKB might make them to like more Raman compared to Ishita. Yes Ishita did wrong but her intention was always right. It's wrong from CVs part of not showing her repenting for the way she did. On the other side I won't call meddling if she does something for a family person. She wants her family to be happy but the way she handled was wrong. They both should put aside their egos and work on their marriage. I don't think any one has done more than the other!!
Oh by the way the comparing Raman and Mani was done in jest because she was upset with him. Though one may say it's wrong but most of us do in real life too unknowingly. She has been tolerating the Raman the way he is since they got married and same applies to Raman too. How many times Raman has told tumse acha tho mein usse shaadi kar leta but he never actually meant it. So I don't think the comparison should be taken so seriously. But these days ppl have lot of problem with whatever she does. She was very right in yesterday's episode. Sorry I wouldn't have kept quiet if someone like Ashok is cheating a women I know even though how bad the women may be. I am glade she spoke to Raman.

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