GREENER PASTURES - Page 7

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Subu ...Ruby kiski yaad dilla di 😭 😆 Oh I so wish they could go there like now but will wait if I am right and the guy is even 50% like his bro Bala it wouldn't be hard to guess why she fell for him and the reason she couldn't fall for Mani was - a) he is the male her like you said and b) she was with Subu at the time - also to quote a line from one of my fav shows which is getting ruined somehow - Ying needs Yang not another ying. Ying Yang is harmony Ying Ying is a name for a panda.😆 and she knows Raavan Kumar for all his rudeness has one thing that the guy she saw Ram in didn't have - the strength to be there for her when she needed him the most ..

Originally posted by: redwine1

all people need to do to combat all this insecurity in the forum is to read these lines ... answer Apne aap pata chal jaayega ...

this is the man who has stood by her ..even when he claimed to DETEST her existence ... now that he clearly cares for her .. & also (biggest secret) LOVES HER .. what do u think he will do for HER ...

add ADITYA to the mix as well ... 😉

Originally posted by: redwine1

Feels slightly reassured and heads home. But it still
troubles him as he knows Ishita is not someone who runs after materialistic
things. They don't matter to her. So what is it that this friend does that he may/does
not?

His wife gives him the answer. She tells him to tame down
his ego. Adds "Maine aapse choti choti cheezon maang rahi hun, koi badi
mohabbat nahin maangi".

But wasn't that what he wanted her to ask him, what he
wanted to give her?

But didn't she want that? So where does she want? Care,
thoughtfulness. And is she wrong?

He has done a lot for her which she has acknowledged every time

He has changed for the good- for her,because of her - which again
she has acknowledged time and again

So where is he going wrong? Where is he losing and why?

These questions are going to trouble him and also show him
the way. He is definitely going to set it right, win her over, how is going to
be a delightful watch, am sure.

As for Ishita - Mani, I feel, has come at the right time. He
has perfect qualities as per her, care-chivalry-thoughtfulness, but she is
clear he is not her Raman, but yet she is unable to recognize and confess her
true feelings for Raman.

Mani gently but firmly pointed out to her not to compare. That's
a true friend. I believe, he will guide her to self-discovery.

Mani is only going to be the catalyst in this beautiful
chemical reaction between husband and wife. A catalyst which will trigger and
speed up the realization yet will keep the relationship of a true friend with
Ishita without change.

A reaction which will heal both of them completely.

Originally posted by: -Anku-

A big fat reserve. Need to read this post a number of times. Before I can articulate my own thoughts. Wonderful Ruby 🤗 Will edit it soon.

I am sorry, I am editing so late. Been busy

Okay so your post actually leaves nothing to be said. Because you understand the track so well yourself, that its hard to put in anything after that.

But I'll just put down what I think about the track right now. Both the tracks.

Although YHM is all about IshRa. The two people's lives, behaviours and characteristics they do follow are Ishita and Shaguns. They've always highlighted the differences between them two. And the tracks that show up on our screens are a result of that itself.

Where Shagun loses, Ishita wins. Both these woman are related to one man, Raman. And like you pointed out. Where one track is all about Raman and Ishita coming closer. The other is about Raman moving on from his past. Every problem that has cropped up in their life has gotten Raman and Ishita come closer and understand each other. And the same problem has helped Raman detach from his past life a step further.

Ishita is a selfless woman, Shagun a selfish one. Her life revolves around herself and if she wants something she has to have it. Whereas Ishita does not want or expect for anything. If she doesn't get what she desires, she learns to cope with it, and if she does get something unexpected she values it.

Where one woman broke the Happy Bhalla. The other appreciates him for what he is deep down and not the mask he wears. One wounded him, the other heals him.

From whatever I've understood of the stories, tracks and the way they are connected. I see nothing but Mohabbatein, when it comes to IshRa. Of course there are issues, of course there will always be something to hamper the calm in their life. But what's important is, that they've learnt to trust, depend and heal each other and no one and nothing can take that.

The last 240 episodes have been a journey towards these lost souls healing and getting over their pasts. And that all hasn't been done for it to go waste. So when people crib and worry about the impending doom in their life. They need to stop and think, that Raman and Ishita have moved on from the dark shadows of their past. And if they ever come across their past again and are made to face an ordeal, they'll only come out stronger after realizing how much they mean to the other.

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Swathi my girl take a bow 👏 what an awesome post by you one of the very BEST I have had the pleasure to come across on IF I swear I have read it thrice already at last count and still can

@bold - oh I love you, I really loved how you have put across this part once he sees the way the real Mani treats her when he sees him and obviously starts hyperventilating which he is doing already he is bound to have these questions in his head and also the answers to them - there is a reason Mani is shown the polar opposite of Raman - one of which is he treats Ishita like a lady, a princess no less and is chivalrous with her...and any woman does expect the man in her life to treat her so 😳

Originally posted by: banana.ishra

thanks for the treat (2 posts) ruby...simply superb... how cd u do this everytime yaar...

aani - brilliant analysis...amazingly written...

swathi, let-it-go, sophee (esp the last para) - fab post...

throughly enjoyed reading all ur posts...

thank u...

Originally posted by: swathibalan

Loving the interesting discussion happening here and couldn't resist butting in.😛

First - Ashok - Am not sure he is a complete bully- a bully is a coward by heart, A Dudley. Sorry to disagree, just my POV😕.

I feel he is a person mean at heart. He is not a complete coward as he has achieved materialistic success in life, with obvious underhand means.

He too is self-obsessed in his own way.

In a way he is Shagun.

He feeds off her and she off him.

And probably that's the reason they are not able to live together, as one day you know there is nothing left there to leech.

There is no love. There is only selfishness. Both were after materialistic things, over what someone else had and don't care a damn on who they hurt on the way to get it.

What may vary between them is the degree of the traits.

But both are still the same- inside and outside

While Raman and Ishita - well they Appear to be different but are the same at the core. Raman, as you perfectly put it Ruby, wants to be Simply Complicated.

But that's a fence he has built around him which has made him an opposite of what he is.

Am sure, he never taunted Shagun when he was married to her, was chivalrous, caring, thoughtful - He was Mani.

Rejection has made him appear what he is today. But he cant be that way forever, esp when he has a wife like Ishita.

He wont be Mani Again, and that's good as Ishita wouldn't want that, else she would have married Mani right? Mani is a friend, a guide. not a person who makes her heart beat.

Raman will be the exact mix of sweet and spice in her life.

There were some posts on why Ishita doesn't unconditionally love Raman, should he be lovable only if he changes and becomes like her

But she does love him unconditionally, for what he actually is and not what he appears to be.

Isn't that true Love - love which sees what the other's cant, what you actually are?

Also, if love doesn't mellow a man, what does? If love doesn't bring out the best of a person, what does?

Also Love just doesn't point out your flaws but stands with you while you correct them

That brings Subbu - You nailed it Aani by saying -the strength to be there for her when she needed him the most. He wasn't there. He was a coward who ran away at the first sign of trouble.

There I go rambling again..😛

Originally posted by: KK2926

Brilliant post Ruby as always.
The way you analysed Shagun's character vs ishita's is thought provoking.
I read ur posts twice to understand better n see if i missed getting anything.

Thank you for taking time n posting ur analysis for us.
In one of ur replies u mentioned that instead of pondering about upcoming tracks if we focus on the epi definitely we will get the hints abt where this is all going.

Shagun is shallow n i think there r many ppl around us like her. Ishita to me is not so realistic. We dont find such pure souls around us. The reason why i called her is -- The way shagun used her to get back to her brother, the plan with sanjana n her mother, i wondered why they didnt show a ishita self talk abt analysing how shagun used her as a pawn. And now also she thinks that she should help her to get her Ashok. I am not trying to find logic in Indian soaps but trying to see how realistic YHM is. I feel Ishita's character progress is not shown here. In one of ur previous posts u mentioned that Ishita is a person who wakes up at night (or something) to help ppl - ruhis hospital, meeting param at night. She is a pure soul. I agree to that but what about the self respect. :))

Sorry my points are still noy in sync with Ishitas character. May be i am thinking too much hahaha
I should stop wondering n enjoy the cute moments :))

Thanks again for ur brilliant analysis. Found time now to unreserve n sorry for being late. I think i will watch YHM until u stop posting ur analysis :) because it makes me get a deeper understanding of the characters.