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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nisha0604

Mera

Great analysis as usual... Ishita seemed like she drank too much cough syrup yesterday, both her reactions with/for Mani and later in the room. IF not held in check DT tends to become OTT very quick...
I personally like her when she is mellow, emotional or shy, her voice sounds NORMAL then.
Don't know if that's how she wishes to portray Ishita or directorial dictation. She's supposedly a 30 year old, isn't she?😕
Yes too many tracks, trying to fit into the 7:30 masale ki dukaan.
They dont want us to guess how the story will pan out... thats why the new "friend".He might disappear too like Param and Simmi have.
They HAVE to make each other address their feelings, they cannot push this out another year with unique monikers and excuses after every almost intimate encounter. As it is their scenes swing like a pendulum, day to day. It lacks consistent forward movement.

The question to be answered is "Is the masala greater than acknowledgement or vice versa." They'll probably go with the masala for a while to grab some fresh eyeballs for TRPs sake.

Shagun behaving like a typical SIL is so cliched, I did not expect that from her... she is the progressive one, you know left her husband to sleep with her boy friend, now she interferes in her would be sis in law's life? And Mihika taking it like a docile girl is out of character for her. She takes no crap from anyone and stands up for what she wants...why the sudden dumbing down of her otherwise chirpy personality?

Unless every character will eventually be bathed in the "divine 7:30 PM" shower... and lose their original identities We are already seeing that with some characters.😕

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nisha0604

Btalwar,
You go to another extreme like Raman Bhalla as well. Nobody expects the hubby to wait with a bouqet.
THAT was not what we lamented about. Many of us are married. Most are married to workaholics, MOST WOMEN are workaholics as well
We dont need lessons on "how a hubby should behave"😃
Raman crossed the line. He said "Jao tumhaari awaaz kaano mein chubti hai" Nisha, believe it or not, I've seen that happen between couples before. The more on their mind, the distraction makes them irritable. Ishita knew he was working, so why stand there and squeal. Forget Raman I'd have told her to tone it down a bit 😛😆...but Raman said it Raman's way...blunt and rude.
REALLY?😡 In real life if any hubby talks to his wife like that, I pity the wife...Raman has been rude to her on many occasions and she just calls him names like Raavan and Kadoos and walks away instead of telling him it hurts when he is that rude.
But then some wives are blessed with more self respect than the others, so might express their displeasure😃
The girl child is inherently trained NOT to use such words with her husband. Ishita manages her practice her home and Ruhi. Raman is not the only man that holds a job. Sorry!
We have NEVER heard her be so snarkly or b----y with Raman😲 If his insults hurt her, her lectures annoy him. They never really have an honest chat ...it's always either a taunt, a tease, name calling or a lecture.

Edited by MERARAI - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Mera,
Just like raman, muje bhi Ishu ki aawaz chubhi. at both places. drawing room and bedroom as well. she was ott reacting. so was awaz chubhti he. she sees her husband is working on deal on laptop, itna zor zor se baaten karne ki kya zaroorat thi ?
its his reaction as his character. he is short temper. same as me 😆 I do same some times to mines. when i get irritated . 😆

ravan kumar wese bhi kitna insulting name he, but did he ever objected? he has taken every taunts with entertain and he is in the way of enjoying if she taunts more.
just my pov

@Aeryn, fab post. after RKB,my next interest is Adi for current track. pasting here from my post on LU for yesterday ep.

he might create problem for ishra but ishu said " kyu itna pain suffer karte ho" showed through adi in very deep. this child is biggest victim of this series. i remember bala had said to ishu that your entry is done to break triangle of raman shagun and ashok because in this all mess of defeating planning scheming,mostly children are getting affected. at that time ruhi s saving was main. right now it s adi. wow what a combo. one side is raman s strength and other side is his weakness. very much tangled web. and today again they showed bala suddenly. it s fishy .

but i saw some one had said bala might do another job in hotel for money. it could be possible

adi has seen today again true face of ashok and suraj, he was hell affected, me and my mom are enough. interesting is that this kid has never taken bigger decision for his choice on his own. he was loaded to accuse his real father as abusive father, always dependent on his mom or ashok . unlike ruhi, she saw her father s cold vibes, she saw her mom's no attention for her , that made her to take choice on little age.
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again between raman and bala , common people in connection are adi and ishita . strange. i would be glad if some one do analysis about this.

I remember once raman had challenged ashok and shagun "ek din mera beta tum dono pe thook ke mere paas aayega"

i am not seeing here IshRa separation.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nisha0604

Btalwar,
You go to another extreme like Raman Bhalla as well. Nobody expects the hubby to wait with a bouqet.
THAT was not what we lamented about. Many of us are married. Most are married to workaholics, MOST WOMEN are workaholics as well
We dont need lessons on "how a hubby should behave"😃
Raman crossed the line. He said "Jao tumhaari awaaz kaano mein chubti hai"
REALLY?😡 In real life if any hubby talks to his wife like that, I pity the wife...
But then some wives are blessed with more self respect than the others, so might express their displeasure😃
The girl child is inherently trained NOT to use such words with her husband. Ishita manages her practice her home and Ruhi. Raman is not the only man that holds a job. Sorry!
We have NEVER heard her be so snarkly or b----y with Raman😲


Dear Nisha. Please call me Bhanu.

Presenting my POV one more time.

See ... when your write, there is something called symbolism which can be interpreted many a ways depending on the perception of the reader. Since you obviously missed the symbolism in my post ... let me make it simpler for you.

When I said that Raman will not hold a bouquet at work, I NEVER meant a literal bouquet ... just clarifying ... I meant ... he will not be able to pay desired attention ... rather he may not be able to pay attention to her at all. As a working married woman, I will accept that behaviour as normal because I will behave the same way if the tables are turned.

Let me explain. If I am working on something serious, and my husband comes into the room and immediately starts speaking to a friend on top of his voice, I will ask him to leave the room immediately.

Coming down to the remark of Raman, I accept that in a normal setup in a normal marriage, the statement may be going overboard. HOWEVER, having seen Raman Kumar Bhalla for the past 250 episodes, I can safely say it is something characteristic of him. Ishita did not name him Ravan Kumar or Kudkud Kumar because he acted as a gulabjamun from episode 1. He is a person with an acidic tongue and by now his wife knows it, accepts it and knows when to pull his socks.

However, the very fact that she was not irked was (mind it she was disappointed when on stairs, not irked) itself shows the progression between them.

As a couple, you learn to accept and understand your spouse's actions, reactions, nuances pretty well. I have a group of friends where a couple calls each other as "AAP" while the other one calls each other by name. There have been instances where both the couples have individually shared that opinion that they find the other one's behaviour odd. In my opinion, both of them are fine. It is their own setup, own place, own world and it is OK as long they are fine by it.

Therefore, I think going by RKB's behaviour from the beginning, I will surely be shocked if he suddenly acts as a normal man who is talking sugary sweet to his wife ... the character's brilliance is his ability to convey his emotions via gestures rather than words. That is what RKB is. It is up to the viewer's discretion to take it or leave it.

While I make no claims of being extremely intelligent, whatever little knowledge I have gathered in my growing up years made me understand self-respect as the following.

Self-Respect is one's own quotient of respect ... how much I value ME, MYSELF. So, while I do not require a certificate from anyone else but ME to judge my level of self-respect, I will like to disagree on the statement of DISPLEASURE ...

You have yet again misinterpreted my response my dear... the entire point was Ishita was not displeased ... because she felt it was NORMAL, it was ok, and it was acceptable. For more clarity, please refer to the paragraph above about learning curve between spouse's understandings.

I think I will not generalize about the parental values on the basis of gender ... it depends on various factors and an individual's personality is greatly affected by his/her upbringing. So, while we may have certain extremely asinine and ill-mannered females around us, extremely well-mannered and well-behaved males are not also not a rare species. Again, just my POV.

Somehow, I was reminded of a famous saying ... RESPECT is something which can fortunately not be bought, it has to be EARNED. For the last time, just saying.

Mera ... apologies for hijacking your thread dear 😳.

I hope this makes up for it 🤗.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Bhanu. superb post. could not agree with you more.

in fact you din preach or quoted anyone in your previous post . it is your opinion. you din force anyone to accept your opinion. nor you did try to teach anyone lesson. i could have ignore your post if I don't like rather than telling that i don't need lesson
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Meeru 🤗 ...lovely post.

Though am not sure how much Shagun would be able to retaliate when Ashok gets rid of her. I have a feeling she (& the CV's) would find it much easier to go after Raman especially when she has Adi with her.

About Adi ... hope he does not unleash his secrets about Ashok daddy & his plans to Mihika coz Mihika is as much a meddler as her Peri amma & her Akka. Wonder why Vandu has all the sense amongst the entire female Iyer clan. Ahhh well.

The trip fall & catch showed me what is to come & it was not pretty. Bas.

Edited by paru_rox - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Bhanu
Feel free to express your point of view😃. I am all for healthy discussions and that's what keeps it interesting to learn and understand another's point of view. We won't always agree with each other but that's the beauty of writing these posts. I'm sure people have rolled their eyes reading some of my posts too. It's all good.😊

No two marriages are alike and it's up to the couple how they understand each other.

Raman, I agree, has an acidic tongue but a clean heart. People like him feel everything intensely. If he can shout and rant on high volume with sharp words, he can feel the majboori as intensely with his tears, so too can he be tender and loving to his children and kind and considerate to his inlaws and Mihir and Bala. I'd say of all the characters on the show, he's probably the most well crafted character. I watch the show to see his journey for he is as close to reality a character as there is on the show.

Ishita started off like a normal almost 30 woman but seems at times CVs don't know what to do with her maturity level. She's been all over the place in her reactions, maybe trying to settle in for the 7:30 slot.😛
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nisha0604

Btalwar,
You go to another extreme like Raman Bhalla as well. Nobody expects the hubby to wait with a bouqet.
THAT was not what we lamented about. Many of us are married. Most are married to workaholics, MOST WOMEN are workaholics as well
We dont need lessons on "how a hubby should behave"😃
Raman crossed the line. He said "Jao tumhaari awaaz kaano mein chubti hai"
REALLY?😡 In real life if any hubby talks to his wife like that, I pity the wife...
But then some wives are blessed with more self respect than the others, so might express their displeasure😃
The girl child is inherently trained NOT to use such words with her husband. Ishita manages her practice her home and Ruhi. Raman is not the only man that holds a job. Sorry!
We have NEVER heard her be so snarkly or b----y with Raman😲



@ red - Deeming that one has a "greater" deal of self respect (was not even aware there are fixed quant parameters to assess more or less in this case) than the other person on a virtual forum seems quite a task to manage.
Though
respect whether for self or others should not be a notion to be written about only. Just saying - respectfully.

Sorry to bring this up on your post Meeru.

Edited by paru_rox - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: paru_rox

Meeru ...lovely post though am not sure how much Shagun would be able to retaliate when Ashok gets rid of her. I have a feeling she (& the CV's) would find it much easier to go after Raman especially when she has Adi with her.

About Adi ... hope he does not unleash his secrets about Ashok daddy & his plans to Mihika coz Mihika is as much a meddler as her Peri amma & her Akka. Wonder why Vandu has all the sense amongst the entire female Iyer clan. Ahhh well.

The trip fall & catch showed me what is to come & it was not pretty. Bas.


Hey Paru

Nice to see here after a few days. YHM detox over or still on?😉

I have a kostin though...if Shagun and Ashok part ways what is the purpose of keeping Lambu brothers on the canvas for the show? CVs haven't clarified if he has legally adopted Adi in which case Shagun could drag him to court as Adi's dad and ask for financial support. If Adi only changed his name to Khanna then it's a diff. story.

I've always seen Ashok have a soft corner for Adi. How would that translate in his life? Chota lambu is nothing more than a trouble maker...an controversial character that he makes Lambu look like a sweetheart.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Colt.Pixy

Bhanu. superb post. could not agree with you more.

in fact you din preach or quoted anyone in your previous post . it is your opinion. you din force anyone to accept your opinion. nor you did try to teach anyone lesson. i could have ignore your post if I don't like rather than telling that i don't need lesson



Thanks Zeno 🤗

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