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vandana21

@vdna

Rocker

Posted: 11 years ago

Raman's outburst on ishita was a little uncalled for today ..The reason he yelled at her so much was because Ashok came to his house and said a few things to him? ..I don't understand how a CEO of the year can so easily get affected by random people's words that he yells at his wife in front of his entire family on the top of his voice...

And, really Ishita had no reason to apologize to Raman...Raman clearly said in his outburst that 6yrs ago Shagun took away his happiness but today she makes no difference to him and the reason he yelled is because he got insulted by Ashok.

Well he isn't the only human being in the world getting insulted. What about the 1000s of insults her hurls at ishita ...in the name of jokes he keeps passing on insults! ..Whoever considered a criticism as something funny? ..

Everytime there is a "madrasi" like the court marriage guy today ...Raman makes a comment like "Sare ke Sare pagal hain" or something to that effect ... Really uncalled for ..Seriously, this doesn't affect Ishita??? ..His constant comment on Ishita's lectures! ..and ending it with he would have himself brought Shagun home if that would make ishita shut up...

I think the appreciation for KP's one liners got to his head and now he's coming up with some really bad ones!! ..

It's hard to believe that Ishita doesn't really get offended! ..I wish she would really stop talking to him and make him long for her...

Of late Raman's character has become very arrogant and rude ...not like the intermediate stage where we got a deeper more understanding and caring Raman ...

I bet the story writers have changed or god knows what but the characterization and story line is going so downhill! ..

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kayan

@kayan

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Posted: 11 years ago

totally agree with u the way he call her and her family pagal and the way he mocks abt her figure its not good she has never told any bad words for his family she always shows love towards dem and one more thing i dint like abt him is whenever he gets angry at her he always tells her to move out of his house and makes her understand its not her house

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vandana21

@vdna

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Posted: 11 years ago

yes it's really HORRIBLE the way he speaks with her ...at least after all she's done for his family he owes her decent words at the very least...!! ..really I would just be disgusted if my husband behaved in such a way and stop talking to him for a while. If he still doesn't come around I'd have to really leave him ..even if he has a heart of gold ..his behavior should show it as well!

Originally posted by: kayan
totally agree with u the way he call her and her family pagal and the way he mocks abt her figure its not good she has never told any bad words for his family she always shows love towards dem and one more thing i dint like abt him is whenever he gets angry at her he always tells her to move out of his house and makes her understand its not her house

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kayan

@kayan

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: vandana21
yes it's really HORRIBLE the way he speaks with her ...at least after all she's done for his family he owes her decent words at the very least...!! ..really I would just be disgusted if my husband behaved in such a way and stop talking to him for a while. If he still doesn't come around I'd have to really leave him ..even if he has a heart of gold ..his behavior should show it as well!

she has lots of patience in her and u know i learnt to have patience from her he takes everything very lightly and dats d reason raman takes her for granted

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-Anku-

@-Anku-

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Posted: 11 years ago

I think you never understood the meaning of his outburst then. Quite clearly he was upset with her because she's so giving that she can get the same woman home whose her husbands ex wife? He even said that to her. That YOU are Ruhi's mother and not she. And what kind of a person are you that you got the same woman home whose YOUR husband's ex-wife. This was about HER. The fact that its so easy for Ishita to bear Shagun in their house, and in THEIR room. Because clearly Raman has moved on, has started to accept Ishita as everything and more. It frustrates him to see that in her goodness she can bring a third person into their relation. It isn't as if he doesn't understand Ishita's act, or misunderstands her intention. But now that he's begun to move on and WANTS to move on, he can't bear his past peeping up into his life again, and especially by the woman he wants to move ahead with. Yes it hurt him to see Shagun there because it rehashed bitter memories but his major dialogues were about how could Ishita be so generous to harm herself? The hidden meaning behind the words was blaring and obvious.

As for Ashok. He accused Raman of two timing. Of bringing Shagun and spending a night with him in the presence of his family and wife. Basically accusing him of cheating, which Raman wouldn't do. It isn't just an insult, its character assassination.

Lastly. Karan is not bigger than the director, story writer and editor. If some creative input by him is not acceptable either of the three can tell him that, and better edit it out. It's quite clear that he's merely following the script..

And yes Raman is nowadays a tad more aggressive and frustrated, but its because he's more aware of his growing feelings for Ishita, He's concerned for her well being and her standing in the family, but she's busy doing everything but caring for herself - so the frustration.

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pomegranate

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Posted: 11 years ago

Raman's outburst was most definitely not uncalled for. Ishita deserved it for being a smartass.

Raman always has altercations with ashok but today he walked into his home, accused him of cheating, all because ishita brought shagun into the house. Regardless of her noble intentions, ashok got a glowing opportunity to insult and belittle him on his own turf. Ishita was right for apolagizing (even if that apolagy was not very convincing) because even though raman is over shagun, it pains him to see the same woman in his home-in his bed. you need to read between the lines here.

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vandana21

@vdna

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Posted: 11 years ago

Well, if he's moved on ...how should it matter to him that she brought Shagun home...Shagun is just another woman out there in the world to him if he has truly moved on. I bet if ishita found another random drunk woman lying and brought her home he would have infact supported her ...I'm not justifying ishita's act but just saying that if Raman has truly moved on and is happy in his current situation then Shagun's presence or absence should really not make a difference to him!! ...Whenever someone becomes an ex-spouse ..there is always some bitterness but that doesn't mean that by just seeing that person you are reliving your past ..especially when your present has become so beautiful!!

Originally posted by: -Anku-
I think you never understood the meaning of his outburst then. Quite clearly he was upset with her because she's so giving that she can get the same woman home whose her husbands ex wife? He even said that to her. That YOU are Ruhi's mother and not she. And what kind of a person are you that you got the same woman home whose YOUR husband's ex-wife. This was about HER. The fact that its so easy for Ishita to bear Shagun in their house, and in THEIR room. Because clearly Raman has moved on, has started to accept Ishita as everything and more. It frustrates him to see that in her goodness she can bring a third person into their relation. It isn't as if he doesn't understand Ishita's act, or misunderstands her intention. But now that he's begun to move on and WANTS to move on, he can't bear his past peeping up into his life again, and especially by the woman he wants to move ahead with. Yes it hurt him to see Shagun there because it rehashed bitter memories but his major dialogues were about how could Ishita be so generous to harm herself? The hidden meaning behind the words was blaring and obvious.

As for Ashok. He accused Raman of two timing. Of bringing Shagun and spending a night with him in the presence of his family and wife. Basically accusing him of cheating, which Raman wouldn't do. It isn't just an insult, its character assassination.

Lastly. Karan is not bigger than the director, story writer and editor. If some creative input by him is not acceptable either of the three can tell him that, and better edit it out. It's quite clear that he's merely following the script..

And yes Raman is nowadays a tad more aggressive and frustrated, but its because he's more aware of his growing feelings for Ishita, He's concerned for her well being and her standing in the family, but she's busy doing everything but caring for herself - so the frustration.

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pomegranate

@pomegranate

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: vandana21

Well, if he's moved on ...how should it matter to him that she brought Shagun home...Shagun is just another woman out there in the world to him if he has truly moved on. I bet if ishita found another random drunk woman lying and brought her home he would have infact supported her ...I'm not justifying ishita's act but just saying that if Raman has truly moved on and is happy in his current situation then Shagun's presence or absence should really not make a difference to him!! ...Whenever someone becomes an ex-spouse ..there is always some bitterness but that doesn't mean that by just seeing that person you are reliving your past ..especially when your present has become so beautiful!!

Raman and shagun have a bitter past. she cheated on him, questioned his masculinity and ability as a man, manipulated his son and took him away, and even though they are divorced, she does not leave him alone. and why would anyone like to see their characterless ex-wife back in his bed? I love how the blame is shifted to raman no matter what, ishita was the wrong person here and even though raman understood ishita's intentions, it hurt him more that ishita opened up those wounds from six years ago, No matter what , if you share such a ugly past with an ex wife, IT DOES effect a person...that is human nature. if my ex husband betrayed me, even I would hate to see him back in my house and in my bed even if I have moved on. yes ishita would have supported if it was a random woman but shagun is not just some random drunk woman. Simple as that and I don't think I have to elaborate any further.

Edited by pomegranate - 11 years ago

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-Anku-

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: vandana21

Well, if he's moved on ...how should it matter to him that she brought Shagun home...Shagun is just another woman out there in the world to him if he has truly moved on. I bet if ishita found another random drunk woman lying and brought her home he would have infact supported her ...I'm not justifying ishita's act but just saying that if Raman has truly moved on and is happy in his current situation then Shagun's presence or absence should really not make a difference to him!! ...Whenever someone becomes an ex-spouse ..there is always some bitterness but that doesn't mean that by just seeing that person you are reliving your past ..especially when your present has become so beautiful!!

If Raman would have just let Shagun be there, and not reacted or not be affected that his wife had bought his ex-wife at home, you and many others would be saying. Raman doesn't care if Shagun comes into the house. It means he wouldn't mind if she'd be there.

Why wouldn't Raman be angry? Shagun isn't any other woman who is in need of help. She's a selfish woman who has never cared for anyone but herself. She doesn't even care for the kids she herself birthed. She merely few days ago tried ruining Ruhi's mind, made her insecure and hurt her, just in order to win Ashok's confidence. She didn't once think of what that child would go through. She let out a personal and very delicate matter out in the open for her benefit. How can Raman forget all that? How can he let that sort of a woman enter his house?

Raman is human, and his reaction on seeing people who have intentionally tried to harm him, his family. his kid and wife is completely natural. Not everyone can be as selfless and generous as Ishita is.

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PUBALI BASU

@MysticMoon

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Raman tried his best to move on and actually he ALMOST moved on . I used ALMOST word just because he moved on enough to think Shagun just a "third person " thats why he reacted when Ishita said "Shagun is Ruhi's mother". It proves that he does not even want to remember Shagun's existence in his life , but being a human being he could not move on enough to forget the poisonous past Shagun gifted him... And it's not so easy , if you remember that a person did terribly wrong things with you , then you would always remember who the person is and what she did and would try to avoid her , that does not mean you miss her or love her and you are frustrated for not getting her in your life , No this is not the reason of raman's outburst , he knows Shagun is a wrong person and he just wants to avoid her in every possible way...

all he wants is to start afresh with Ishita and even forget the fact that he had a painful past with somebody else ... he fights with himself to forget all the painful memories he had to go through , all of them appear as a nightmare for him , and if he watches that same nightmare present in front of his eyes , outburst is natural... Ishita is the woman with whom he wants to make new memories and he already said the same to Ishita so for him , It is not possible to tolerate if Ishita makes his past return to his present at this stage.
And about his 'taanes' , yes sometimes , I feel it's too much , like "sabke sab paagal hai , your lecture " etc , but then , it's Raman's style decided by cvs , and Ishita is ok with that , I am sure if Raman ever notices Ishita feeling pain for his jokes and comments , he would change his attitude at once and never hurt his Ishu , he never did actually , like we have watched earlier , he deleted a video at once thinking Ishita crying for that reason ...

Edited by Vaibhi. - 11 years ago

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