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Posted: 11 years ago
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it is domestic violence
hurting wife emotionally
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Can't agree with u more...what are they trying to show...i just dont understand...Raman getting angry on her is fine...justified...but saying such harsh words that ""its his house and she cann't do such things in his or else she will be out of the house"" this was way too hard to digest...
Once even Raman had saved Shagun from the fire and took her to Ashok's house ignoring Ishita's presence..that was an insult to any wife taht ur husband ignores u infront of his ex...But Ishita was not sad about taht...at that tym she was sad bcoz he was hiding his meetings with Shagun from Ishita...that was her only problem...

But yah..i know here the problem is different...Ishita not only helped shagun but she took her to Bhalla house and made her sleep on their bed with out consulting Raman...She could have at least called Raman and ask for his opinion...so she is at fault...i agree...So Raman getting angry is justified...

But only if this situation had come at the early stage of their marriage, and the same words he would have said at that tym, then i would have been convinced...
Bcoz at that tym, they were not aware of each others goodness, in fact they hated each other at that tym...and he could have blasted her for getting shagun in to their house saying that this is HIs house and if she does something lyk this then she will out of HIS House...

But now they are at a stage where his anger should be because of his feelings for her...it should be bcoz of her position in his lyf..he should get angry on her bcoz she didnt even think twice b4 getting her husband's ex to their house...he should get angry on her bcoz she did not feel any insecurity bcoz Shagun...he should be angery on her bcoz its their (Raman and Ishita)house and his ex has no place in theirhouse...

In short...he should have avoided those harsh words of saying its his house and she will be out of his house...then what was the point in showing name plate and all...CV's are confused...they are not in flow...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Anku-



If Raman would have just let Shagun be there, and not reacted or not be affected that his wife had bought his ex-wife at home, you and many others would be saying. Raman doesn't care if Shagun comes into the house. It means he wouldn't mind if she'd be there.

Why wouldn't Raman be angry? Shagun isn't any other woman who is in need of help. She's a selfish woman who has never cared for anyone but herself. She doesn't even care for the kids she herself birthed. She merely few days ago tried ruining Ruhi's mind, made her insecure and hurt her, just in order to win Ashok's confidence. She didn't once think of what that child would go through. She let out a personal and very delicate matter out in the open for her benefit. How can Raman forget all that? How can he let that sort of a woman enter his house?

Raman is human, and his reaction on seeing people who have intentionally tried to harm him, his family. his kid and wife is completely natural. Not everyone can be as selfless and generous as Ishita is.

BOLD: Correct! some people need to blame raman for everything. I know that he can be a jerk at times but I don't see how he is at fault here. also, pointing out his rude behavior to defend ishita is not right either. two wrongs don't make a right and just because someone hurt you in the past does not give you a free pass to do the same to them.




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Posted: 11 years ago
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Raman's outburst wasnt about Shagun at all. Even from the start. The lines that he said like 'go bring every bewda in the house. If its a guy u shall sleep outside and if its a lady i shall!". it shows clearly that he was angry on Ishita for bringing in Shagun and putting her on their bed!!! Which was really really wrong! She cud've slept on the sofa outside or in Ruhi's room coz she wasnt there!!!
It was the same room he had spent some nice and some very very bad memories with Shagun. She had walked out on him from that same room!!!!She ripped off the bandage from a still healing wound!!!ofcourse it hurt!!!!!!!!!!he didnt even want to enter it till she was there!

This time Ishita was really wrong. Everybody said that. And they werent wrong.the house really isnt a Dharamshala and Toshiji was right when she said that u brought ur husband 's ex wife to ur bed!!!u helped her cross the last limit!!!And coz of all this MIhir MIhika will also suffer!! The shocking thing was Ishita wasnt even realizing what she had done was wrong!!!!She was still defending her acts!!!Atleast Raman's exact outburst made her realize her mistake!!!!

And i'm surprised that Raman forgave her so easily. By just one sorry! Really the CVs cud have shown it as Ishita trying so hard to earn his forgiveness, pampaering him, making his favorite food for him, etc. Raman always brings gifts for her, she shud have done something too.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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raman was not wrong but the way it eneded was wrong...thr shud hv bn sm communication bet ishra n then it shud hv ended ...both understanding each othr
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pomegranate


I agree. Raman isn't a perfect or flawless human, but he's human. He makes mistakes, realizes he's made them and asks for forgiveness too. But to expect him to forgive and forget past wounds, that haven't healed because the one whose inflicted them keeps tampering with them time and again is so heartless to his feelings.

People need to give Raman a break,and probably put themselves in his shoes.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I don't agree. I felt his anger was justified. I felt he was not angry with Ishu rather he was angry at what happened. He was insulted in front of his family for something he is not guilty of. It was very clear that Raman was not happy that Shagun was in his house. He didn't even step into his own room when Shagun was there. However Ashok made a point that Raman still has feelings for Shagun and that he has cheated with Shagun. I guess Raman was furious about this allegation. It is very clear by his actions that Raman has no feelings for Shagun so maybe all that drama was just too much for him.

I also noticed Raman's expression right after he stopped shouting. I don't think he intended to be harsh at her but that was merely a natural reaction from his side. Ishu also realized her mistake. I don't think any sane person would tolerate such rubbish from anyone so can imagine his frustration when he was accused by Ashok.

I think at the end Raman was just trying to lighten up Ishu's mood as she was very upset hence made that comment about bringing Shagun himself to quiet Ishu. I didn't feel that part should be taken very seriously because its just a joke. That's what I felt.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Alright, I do agree with all the posters who've written in favor of Raman ..His outburst might have been justified had he always shown such strong hatred toward shagun..
He was able to have her around for an entire night when Adi was sick ..Well if he was so disgusted, he could have booked another room for her then..
He went for the picnic ...for Adi's sake he was able to put up the woman he is so bloody angry about? ..
He held Shagun's hand and comforted her time and again during the lousy accident track...
Where was all this disgust and anger ..Fine he did it all for Adi ...and now for Adi, it's OK to leave shagun lying on the street?????? ..If Adi told him that his mom is on the street and to save her ..he wouldn't have done the same whole heartedly ..
I don't get the unfairness ...I mean it's not like everytime shagun has been around ..he's gotten so mad..
Also, their bedroom/bed has no meaning YET...they don't share a bed...he has said it several times that he has no intentions of doing anything with her ...I mean with all his past comments how is Ishita to hold their bed/bedroom as sacred? It's just another piece of furniture in another room of the house as far as she is concerned for NOW at least! ..
It's raman's fault that he hasn't voiced any feelings to ishita that makes her feel otherwise about her bed or room ...!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: vandana21

Alright, I do agree with all the posters who've written in favor of Raman ..His outburst might have been justified had he always shown such strong hatred toward shagun..

He was able to have her around for an entire night when Adi was sick ..Well if he was so disgusted, he could have booked another room for her then..
He went for the picnic ...for Adi's sake he was able to put up the woman he is so bloody angry about? ..
He held Shagun's hand and comforted her time and again during the lousy accident track...
Where was all this disgust and anger ..Fine he did it all for Adi ...and now for Adi, it's OK to leave shagun lying on the street?????? ..If Adi told him that his mom is on the street and to save her ..he wouldn't have done the same whole heartedly ..
I don't get the unfairness ...I mean it's not like everytime shagun has been around ..he's gotten so mad..
Also, their bedroom/bed has no meaning YET...they don't share a bed...he has said it several times that he has no intentions of doing anything with her ...I mean with all his past comments how is Ishita to hold their bed/bedroom as sacred? It's just another piece of furniture in another room of the house as far as she is concerned for NOW at least! ..
It's raman's fault that he hasn't voiced any feelings to ishita that makes her feel otherwise about her bed or room ...!


okay...i don't want to get into past occurrences, as it was already shown raman can put up with anything because of his son.

No one said it is ok to leave shagun lying on the streets and if you were being perceptive, then you could see that raman understood why ishita brought her home but it hurt no less. it i s not only about shagun but also because raman may have assumed that ishita does not respect this marriage or take it seriously. Yes I know this is just a platonic relationship but still, if i were ishita, I would never bring the ex wife to the bedroom because I respect a sanctity of a marriage.

As for the bed, it is common sense you don't put your husband's ex wife into the bed. this is is a fact that applies to all divorced couples. I have never referred that bed as ishita's because she does not sleep in it but it is basic manners to ask person before parking someone on their, bed ESPECIALLY if it is a bitchy ex wife. And raman cannot voice any of his non-platonic relationship to ishita because he himself does not realize he is falling for her.
Edited by pomegranate - 11 years ago

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