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Posted: 11 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: DivAniTanni

BTW, under audience pressure, CVs modified the track a bit. Ishita was
the one who took the case back acc. to spoilers. But, here, we see the
case is closed due to the picture proof and Raman to send Adi to JDC.
It's all changed to make Raman the superhero again. Why on earth they
can't show that he did mistakes and he is trying hard to correct them?
Sudden decisions...I don't think it was needed, cos damage of Raman's
character have been done already. Many will like that he has taken a
tough decision. But, inside their minds also, they will ask question was
it all needed to do all the messes? And, what use will be this
punishment of Adi after giving him lots of chances and unnecessary
courage to do crimes? His courage level reached to a level now and after
he is released he will be more furious and more violent towards others
and Raman also. If he was put in a nervous situation from the beginning
of accident revelation, he would have surely been less violent now. So, I
don't see any use of Raman's mahaan hero action. It's all fake and set up just to show that Raman is always right even if he murders the childhood of a kid.



Wli would say that reason for his uturn was credible and I liked it

They could have made ishita a hero in real terms by closing case

But they made her a philosophical hero by showing Raman how she is right and her thought process are mature and rational

I don't think juvenile homes are correct punishment

But then crime was serious and needed a firm hand
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Posted: 11 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: madhavimanish32

Loved the start of ur post😛

thanks
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Posted: 11 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: always_a_TV_fan



so now that Mr Raman Kumar Bhalla is resurrected, let the real YHM begin again.

I will end my post again, by hoping/praying/wishing that they show some mature discussions between Ishita and Raman to talk about the complete lack of trust. and show them focussing on rebuilding their relationship !!!




yes Lucky the hope we will get back our YHM...

@bold :- i swear Lucky its so foolish but mostly i end up actually praying for a gud track...
m just hoping they will show IshRa talk on what happened in past and where Raman went wrong, and also why he didn't trust her... hope CV's will make up for torture we viewers suffered coz of whole track...


Originally posted by: --mancityfan--



Thanks

This is what came to my mind

Well we got 20 PC of what we wanted to see in today episode

With ishita very slightly disappointed Raman did not tell her


Raman realisation of what he has done to adi was very nicely done

It was so nice that it nearly rescued a sham of a track

Yes kp was good in final scene

And divyanka in monologue


@bold :- true said Vyas... at least for once she thought that why he didn't share wid her...
hope we will have meaningful IshRa convo tomorrow ...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: FieryLioness



yes Lucky the hope we will get back our YHM...

@bold :- i swear Lucky its so foolish but mostly i end up actually praying for a gud track...
m just hoping they will show IshRa talk on what happened in past and where Raman went wrong, and also why he didn't trust her... hope CV's will make up for torture we viewers suffered coz of whole track...



@bold :- true said Vyas... at least for once she thought that why he didn't share wid her...
hope we will have meaningful IshRa convo tomorrow ...



Yes meet
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Posted: 11 years ago
#95
But he did not. So to make matters worse he goes along with Shagun and lies and commits crimes to save an already misguided son.

So now he has made two mistakes. And that is nobody's fault but Raman's.

I do not know what Juvenile courts are like in India so I cannot make an educated guess. But he could have promised Shagun that give me back my son and I will see to it that he gets professional help by therapy and decent parenting with my much more sensible present wife that has more sense in her pinky finger than you do in your whole made up body.

When i say Raman made no mistake , i mean his attitude which is of a father trying to keep his son out of a remand home is not wrong . Its NATURAL . I am not talking of how he went about it , suppressing the footage etc . If notice , Amma said SAME thing , the child must NOT go to remand home . Toshi said same thing and Ishita is of SAME mind ...and this is coz remand homes r a horror story . Trying to suppress the case can be a crime in the eyes of the viewers who see right and wrong as black and white , i don't . I believe in his sentence that sometimes things r above right and wrong .

He had bought the journalist who was trying to make a story on Bala Vandita too and that time he was hailed a hero .

My point is he is shown as a common man trying to do things the way they r done 90% of the time in India , using money power to do things he feels is right .

It is what he will do now that makes no sense to ME .

Shagun is hardly one to cajole , promise anything . She has proved him an abuser in court and he is in no position to tell her anything . She needs to be threatened , and i hope Ishita does it as HER mother almost died .
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Posted: 11 years ago
#96
Didn't want to get philosophical but seems that may happen reading at some comments 😆
Again not trying to target anyone so take a chill pill 😛

First of all, this case was hyped way way way too much from the beginning. For sake of drama, CVs added extra stuff there. If a kid has hit and run case, yes it's a serious crime. But then if person who was hit remains alive, court wud ask for compensation, medical payments, etc and hardly any "jail time". So if Raman being man of power and money should have explored all that options before entering all illegal matters !! Yes we all use our money to hide certain things or "take care" of things. But then there are legal ways to "take care" of things. CVs wanted drama so they didn't do that.

Now sending adimanav to remand house for a day and then transfer things to family court - again drama 😛
Now speaking on how to get this kid right, he at least has to have FEAR. Yes law and even parents operate using fear. Even we are mostly GOD fearing ppl !! SO I wanted some type of fear in this kid.

Raman's actions, yes it all seems so easy now. They did good enough job in making him realize his mistake. But then going directly to judge, may be extreme. But then if he can do so many illegal stuff, why not this - all fro drama 😆

Talking abt right & wrong, yes life does bring certain issues where you can't decide right and wrong. Because right and wrong are very subjective words. But what you can't deny are FACTS. You can go play grey game and avoid right vs wrong things, but in the end your actions will bring either right or wrong. Unwilling to decide or accept is not same as not knowing !!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Raman bought the journalist and suppressed Bala Vandita story . Actually it was WRONG . But when journalist suppressed story and told about Ashok baby instead there were cheers . This same Ishita who is fighting sahi ladaai did NOT want Bala 's name to go to mud . Did she think its right of press , Bala HAS done a fooliish mistake in trying to handle all things on own , that this is now INEVITABLE ?

Nope .

Now same Raman tried to squash CCTV footage with money power . He normally does not use it but uses it in grey areas where issues rise above right , wrong ? A pattern there ?

Now I find Ishita too true to character . When Param the rapist has to be called for rasams , she steps back . When Bala 's reputation has to be saved , she steps back , she does not go into the nitty gritty of HOW Raman does it , she just barges into the bedroom and tells him 'Do something!' Now when she knows its Adi , she has decided to step back again .

This is NO criticism of Ishita . Far from it . I am merely pointing out that she is true to character .

Similiarly i felt Raman was always true to character in this case . He never fought for principles and only stepped in with his money power when issues went out of hand .

Regarding him KNOWING about right wrong etc , never felt he was cocky ...that was Shagun ...she really does not even know its wrong . He was always guilt ridden , always knew it was wrong but helplessly stood by it . And some viewers like me related to it coz this dilemma is so real .

Now for the sach ki ladaai .

Toshi , the ardent supporter of sach ki ladaai forgot all about sach vach when she realized it was her grandson . She told Ishita to squash the sach .

Ishita agreed to it coz she thought if it was Adi indeed it was a special case for sach .

Amma told to squash sach .

So ...what r we blaming Raman for ? He decided to squash sach and they too have decided to squash sach . He did not create the monster , Shagun brought him up . How will he 'improve' Adi when its out of his hands ? All he tried to do was prevent further deterioration of Adi by sending him to remand home to live with hardened criminals .

So what mistake , and is not the sach gang god fearing ? All r doing same thing !

Now acc to formula the right thing is to hand the boy over to authorities . Ok . But even that won't be shown fully , just like Param came out after a brief stint , bailed by Ashok baby so will Adi get some other alternatives coz Ekta's sach ki ladaais r very complex .😉




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Posted: 11 years ago
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😆 I'll take one last dig at this and leave it as no point !
I only watch show for Ruhi, Raman and Ishita; how others act, really don't care. Toshi no comment !! My concern with entire case track were only for Raman and Ishita !

Raman was acting out of character due to his actions and no proper justification ! Raman was shown man sticking to his principles. With RUhi case going on Toshi had asked him to let Mihir cut loose with mms so Iyers wud help them. He said hell no, for his benefit he won't let innocent guy in trouble. But if Mihir is wrong, he will help Iyers put him away. When came to pervert, despite knowing how his family, sister and young kid he did what was needed. When he believed Romi did accident, he was willing to throw guy in jail. Why his younger bro wasn't in need to right guidance, in jail too ppl can only learn how to be better criminals and at the time his mother had begged him. Later to provide guidance Raman told Romi he must go to office and learn to be responsible; after apologizing to everyone he had wronged !!

No such thing took place with adimanav. I agree as father his concern for adimanav is true. No father wud want to let his 11 yr old go to remand house. But for that did he need to get into illegal acts? Did he have to lie and hide things from Ishita? There is no real justification for that. raman was shown saying Ishita wud understand but Shagun stopped him and he agreed to her words !! I believe that is where Raman lost the credibility as character. In past ppl close to him have done wrong and it didn't stop him from doing so called right thing. He was the one who gave lecture to Ishita abt all criminals are someone's relative so what !!

Now taking responsibility for his son; saying he lives with Shagun so Raman has no power - that's a cop out. If he has responsibility to save his son, then he has responsibility for kid's behavior too. Being parent is hard, you can't run away from that responsibility. What annoyed me more is kid had no regret or remorse abt accident and not once Raman was shown at least even trying to tell kid what he had done was wrong !!

Bala story, it was "tv story" and had nothing to do with legal or ethical matter. Ashok paid money to bring out story, raman paid money to hide it. But even at that time Raman had told Ishita why they had to hide this from him. If Bala had told him, Romi wud be stopped earlier and I agree with him. I also agreed with him when he told Ishita to have told him abt pervert !! Why hide?

As far as this case, it's stupid. I had accident at age 13 driving moped. My father too spent money and contact to resolve the matter. But it was resolved legally, my father didn't go on bribing ppl. In hit & run case court demands medical bills and compensation, for juvenile jail time is really last resort !! So this whole case reaching to court is stupid. Also CCTV footage, police was working on case for so long and all of a sudden CCTV footage comes up 😕 😆 🤪

I said fear because fear is part of life. Law and authority work on fear as it works !! adimanav feared his mother wud go to jail so he acted nice. Raman feared his son wud go to jail so he acted stupid. Ishita feared her hubby doesn't give a damn abt her. So it was all fear !! Adimanav has shown having no fear of authority nor respect; we have seen that enough times !! So yes kid needs to show some fear. Our sense of right wrong growing up depends more on fear. As we grow up and gain more intellect power we can see more complexity.

Now raman acting wrong. Forget us, Raman himself is shown admitting whatever he is doing is wrong and he doesn't deserve anyone's respect or trust. When guy himself admits why i should give him that 😆 Having guilt, well of course as he is guilty !! That's called having conscience !! But he continued doing it because lack of realization. Now he had that realization !! But still he caused so much damage, for his loved ones and more so for himself ! He admitted he couldn't see Ishita in eyes and have fallen in his own eyes. So if not for anyone else he should correct it all to rise in his own eyes; that's something I like to see. Man fighting battle inside to grow !!

Speaking reality, well even Shagn and Ashok are acting like ppl in real life. Why them acting selfish is wrong and Raman as fine 😕 coz to be hero, even with reality in mind hero must do good. Coz that's definition of hero 😆 that's why if i get chance i wud like to be villain 😛 😆

I don't expect much consistency or proper law in EK show 😆 For drama sake she'll do whatever. I have seen that in previous show where good guy goes to jail for yrs and bad guy despite having serious charge roams free on bail for yrs 🤪 so simple rule for daily soap, jab takk jhel sakko jhelo badd me bhad me jaye 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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As far as this case, it's stupid. I had accident at age 13 driving moped. My father too spent money and contact to resolve the matter. But it was resolved legally, my father didn't go on bribing ppl. In hit & run case court demands medical bills and compensation, for juvenile jail time is really last resort !! So this whole case reaching to court is stupid. Also CCTV footage, police was working on case for so long and all of a sudden CCTV footage comes up

I said it all along that the case was stupid .

But it cannot be that Raman makes no mistake bribing for Bala who is Ishita's relative and a mistake for bribing for the future of his son . BOTH actions r debatable but thats not the point ...he does it when matters go above right wrong . So if one says its out of character for him and in character for Ishita to drop the case i differ . BOTH behaved exactly IN character .

Regarding suppressing the case for remand home punishment . I am talking of the rule , what 80% parents do . Where its possible , in countries like India . As their fright of remand homes is fully understandable , even stab fights occur there , i won.t name the other things . I respect the exceptions but i point out i am talking of the rule and i sort of understand them and don't exactly find them monsters . Thats all .
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Posted: 11 years ago
Now taking responsibility for his son; saying he lives with Shagun so Raman has no power - that's a cop out. If he has responsibility to save his son, then he has responsibility for kid's behavior too.

But he has stepped in coz Shagun allowed him , where he has any say in his bringing up , Shagun draws the line there and she has the legal control !😕 How can Adi's personality be blamed on him , his wife left him taking the boy with her ! So what hard or soft responsibility when court absolved him of ALL responsibility .
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 11 years ago

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