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Posted: 11 years ago
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The only difference between IshRa in book and shw is feelings. In former they both get it while in latter its still in veins.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i believe RKB has been totally in character the last few days..Was Raman ever the prince charming who sweeps a girl off her feet to begin with? Someone who almost always does the right thing? Why expect things which he is incapable of? Raman is an incredibly flawed character..Someone who believes in extremes..There is absolutely no moderation in his approach & thanks to all the emotional baggage, the guy is effed up in the head 😆 He is vulnerable, dense & impulsive..I thought all this was established right from the time the show started? Oh and his borderline psychotic love for Adi 😆 Raman is obsessed with his son and Adi can literally get away with murder..And i always felt Raman loves Adi a lot more than Ruhi..In the Raman-Ruhi relationship, its Ruhi who is always compromising & going out of the way to make her dad happy..And it is the exact opposite with brat Adi 😆 And Raman obviously things pampering equates to good parenting..IMO, both Raman & Shagun suck as parents..Their approach is all wrong..This was particularly highlighted in the epi where Ishita put Adi in his place and dealt with him in the best way possible..Unfortunately, Raman doesn't believe in saying NO 😆 He loved Shagun more than his kids which of course lead to disastrous consequences and now he loves Adi more than anyone which will again lead to disastrous consequences 😆

I know ppl are gonna kill me for this but i don think Raman can ever love Ishita the way he loved Shagun..By love here , i mean the 'blind, obsessive, self-destructive love' Raman felt for Shagun..And i do think Ishita is better off without that 😆 Anyways, my point is i loved how the writers have highlighted all these flaws in Raman's character..He is not a bad guy..He is just an emotionally vulnerable man who cannot differentiate between right and wrong when his loved ones are in trouble..I for one am loving this track tbh provided they don go overboard with it..And no, IshRa are not ruined..Ishita will be the first person to understand Raman when the whole scenario unfolds in front of her..She knows how much Raman loves Adi and how much he craves for that one nod of approval from his son..If anything, she'l be upset that he chose to hide it from her and din consider her important enough to discuss such an important issue..

On a parting note, i have to gush about Karan Patel..WHAT AN ACTOR..I'l probably never get tired of saying this but this guy lives Raman and how..His reaction when Shagun reveals she is the one who committed the accident, that shock & disbelief, his helplessness when Adi begs & cries in front him, his expression when he hugged Shagun( i thought he nailed it), his guilt when he gets back home, that self loath & disgust when Ishita goes on & on about how awesome Raman is & how much she trusts him, lashing out at Ruhi & Ishita as a defense mechanism, that utterly lost and ' disgusted with self' expression when Ruhi & Ishita apologize for no fault of theirs & finally breaking down after they leave- Perfection is the word..This guy is amazing..Raman can be a douchebag and yet this guy makes you sympathize with him..Thats exactly what a good actor does to his character 👏 Take a bow KP..

P.S. The only place where Raman went horribly wrong was to call Shagun & consult her about revealing the truth to Ishita 😆 Rely on your own judgment Raman..You know Ishita well enough to decide things for yourself..Why involve others in this? 🥱



Shagun is the wrong person to ask such a question. She's a pro at pushing his emotional buttons and he keeps falling for it. He will continue to do that until he deals with the baggage from his past that he's been avoiding for years now.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: yyy

Good Analysis .

Every individual will have some emotional baggage not just a divorcee like a guy/gal from a broken family or some incidents in life would have left a deep scar in their mind but everyone has to deal with it .People will put behind such memories in life and such individuals do exists.

In this case Raman is not able to come out of his past .He is a weak individual .Ishita has a painful past too but she has learnt to put behind those painful memories and is ready to give a new life a chance.That's the positive attitude which i would love to see ,

If Raman can't get over Shagun and Adi then he should have done something to win them back.After having money and CEO of the year award he could have proposed Shagun to come back .If he still loves her even after her betrayal,her posinious attitude then deserves what he desires.He has everything she wants i.e money power and status.

How long will he keep hurting his loved ones and why ?What rights does he have to expect Ishita and Ruhi to bear everything and forgive him. As long as his loved ones explain away his behavior, give him reasons and excuses to hang his hat on, or let him get away with his behavior he will keep doing it. That's human nature! We teach people how to treat us by the way we behave and hold them accountable/let them get away with things.

As long as Ishu lets him get away with his behavior he'll take his sweet time and find ways to do what works for him even if it's not the right thing to do after the promise he made Ishu on the bench. He's got baggage to unload from his past with Shagun. She will call the shots until he decides enough is enough or he's got a bigger challenge before him ...if and when Ishu gives him an ultimatum or reveals what she knows. Telling Shagun he's going to come clean with Ishu was a bad move and when she vetoed it he fell in line.🤔 After all she's had 10 years with him to know how to make him dance to her tune. But he can't get away with it for too long esp. after Ishu caught him in a lie and she knows what Shagun is capable of. He's got some explaining to do.

I don't think he married Ishita for Ruhi's happiness...he wanted to defeat Ashok and Shagun and the only way he could do is marry Ishita,

He has always been selfish and will always be ,


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: yyy

Good Analysis .

Every individual will have some emotional baggage not just a divorcee like a guy/gal from a broken family or some incidents in life would have left a deep scar in their mind but everyone has to deal with it .People will put behind such memories in life and such individuals do exists.

In this case Raman is not able to come out of his past .He is a weak individual .Ishita has a painful past too but she has learnt to put behind those painful memories and is ready to give a new life a chance.That's the positive attitude which i would love to see ,

If Raman can't get over Shagun and Adi then he should have done something to win them back.After having money and CEO of the year award he could have proposed Shagun to come back .If he still loves her even after her betrayal,her posinious attitude then deserves what he desires.He has everything she wants i.e money power and status.

How long will he keep hurting his loved ones and why ?What rights does he have to expect Ishita and Ruhi to bear everything and forgive him.

I don't think he married Ishita for Ruhi's happiness...he wanted to defeat Ashok and Shagun and the only way he could do is marry Ishita,

He has always been selfish and will always be ,




Thats the whole point..Ishita is infinite times stronger than Raman ever was..And she is practical..Not an extremist like Raman..She loved Subbu but din make him the centre of her universe..Exactly what Raman did with Shagun, hence the obsession..And no, i don think he still loves Shagun..He is totally over her..But then he is still obsessed about Adi & Shagun takes ruthless advantage of his weakness..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rogerrocks



Thats the whole point..Ishita is infinite times stronger than Raman ever was..And she is practical..Not an extremist like Raman..She loved Subbu but din make him the centre of her universe..Exactly what Raman did with Shagun, hence the obsession..And no, i don think he still loves Shagun..He is totally over her..But then he is still obsessed about Adi & Shagun takes ruthless advantage of his weakness..


^^^ exactly. Ishita was always the stronger, mature, and rational one among the two, she has always been very practical and logical, unlike raman-who collapses under extreme emotions.it's easier for her to have a positive outlook towards life because she and subbu were not married and because they don't have any children together.

Raman is not in love with shagun. in his mind his doing it for his son but he is too dumb to realize that his ex wife is playing him...again.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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^^^ exactly. Ishita was always the stronger, mature, and rational one among the two, she has always been very practical and logical, unlike raman-who collapses under extreme emotions.it's easier for her to have a positive outlook towards life because she and subbu were not married and because they don't have any children together.

Raman is not in love with shagun. in his mind his doing it for his son but he is too dumb to realize that his ex wife is playing him...again.



Word..Raman is totally over Shagun..There is a reason i don mind a track where Ishita-Raman temporarily separate & Shagun gets back with him only because it will provide Raman the much needed closure..Where he'l consciously realize that the woman he loved with all his heart, for whom he almost ruined his life doesn't matter to him anymore..And its Ishita his heart craves for..I guess that wil happen sometime later 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rogerrocks



Word..Raman is totally over Shagun..There is a reason i don mind a track where Ishita-Raman temporarily separate & Shagun gets back with him only because it will provide Raman the much needed closure..Where he'l consciously realize that the woman he loved with all his heart, for whom he almost ruined his life doesn't matter to him anymore..And its Ishita his heart craves for..I guess that wil happen sometime later 😆


Euh no please not...I can see Shagun wanting to go back to Raman now that he is more suave and can provide the luxurious life she wants but Raman falling into her arms even temporarily, I don't see that at all...he is past her, she has hurt him too much for that to be a possibility...I do feel the show is above that. Finger crossed it won't change its standard
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Posted: 11 years ago
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excellent post !
just a thing to say : even if raman isn't perfect and has major flaws, he is still perfect in his own way. I mean even if he is rude and has an emotional baggage, he always does the right thing. It's "HIS WAY" but it always end up for the sake/happiness of OTHERS. And here the right thing should have been talking to Ishita. Yes, he loves adi way too much (borderline obsessing) and i can understand that he did a mistake, but that doesn't erase the disappointment.

Also up until now, ishita try to build a relationship of trust. Not love, but trust which is so much more important, and by his lies, he destroyed it. Before that, ishita hadn't a perfect loving smiling husband, but as she said in a recent episode, she had a perfect husband because she could trust and rely on him. She doesn't care if he loves adi so much, she doesn't care if he doesn't shower her with love, she doesn't care (she even WANT i could say) if he's still on speaking terms with shagun, all she needs and wants is respect and trust. And he broke that.

The thing that makes it a "major" issue is not that Ishita is jealous (because she isn't) but that Ishita is hurt.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Aeryn


Euh no please not...I can see Shagun wanting to go back to Raman now that he is more suave and can provide the luxurious life she wants but Raman falling into her arms even temporarily, I don't see that at all...he is past her, she has hurt him too much for that to be a possibility...I do feel the show is above that. Finger crossed it won't change its standard



Na i don think he'l ever fall in her arms after this 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rajji-cutest

excellent post !

just a thing to say : even if raman isn't perfect and has major flaws, he is still perfect in his own way. I mean even if he is rude and has an emotional baggage, he always does the right thing. It's "HIS WAY" but it always end up for the sake/happiness of OTHERS. And here the right thing should have been talking to Ishita. Yes, he loves adi way too much (borderline obsessing) and i can understand that he did a mistake, but that doesn't erase the disappointment.

Also up until now, ishita try to build a relationship of trust. Not love, but trust which is so much more important, and by his lies, he destroyed it. Before that, ishita hadn't a perfect loving smiling husband, but as she said in a recent episode, she had a perfect husband because she could trust and rely on him. She doesn't care if he loves adi so much, she doesn't care if he doesn't shower her with love, she doesn't care (she even WANT i could say) if he's still on speaking terms with shagun, all she needs and wants is respect and trust. And he broke that.

The thing that makes it a "major" issue is not that Ishita is jealous (because she isn't) but that Ishita is hurt.



Word..The problem is Raman is effing up under the impression that Ishita might object to his decision which in turn will harm Adi..He really doesn't wanna take that chance but what he is failing to comprehend is that Ishita will be the first person to understand his decision 😆

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