A Mature Episode ..Applause!!!!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I found the episode as a quite balanced one.. Frankly i don't understand what the bashing is all about..I guess its the differences in perspective..I found the Raman-Shagun conversation quite believable. Pls don't arm the chappal bazukas at me!! See i found two parents genuinely talking about their son ..Ok atleast one was! Raman was and always will be thankful to Shagun for the children she gave him..that's a fact and it can't be changed. Raman was talking to Adi's mother and NOT HIS WIFE! Yes the Happiness he felt when Adi came to the world does have Shagun also in the picture...he had a happy time with her too!! fond memories always remain as fond memories
Happiness is not felt by reasoning but by our heart and the joy in each memory stays forever even if the relationship or the person with whom you shared it has left you.We tend to reminisce ..its natural..All Raman was doing was the joy he and his then wife did feel with Adi's arrival..now he treats it as the joy two parents felt and not life partners.Raman being someone very sensitive for a kadus would have definitely been joyously overwhelmed with the memories of first kids birth.
And that was the joy he was talking about..about the feeling when he became a DAD FOR THE FIRST TIME! you can't have your first kid multiple times now can you?There is always some thing special when something happens for the first time...ok i know it might be a weird example..but for instance think about our first crush...we may have many crushes but there is something special about the first one..and that is the fact that it was your first one. The first time you felt that way.. I think many of us misunderstood Raman's statement there he was talking about the fact that he will never feel the joy of having his FIRST Kid ever again with anyone else.
isn't that true?Like Ishitha many of us misunderstood what he said their..I confess that i did not quite find it palatable at first but then when i saw the repeat telecast I clearly understood what he meant and found it as the truth.

Yes Shagun was at her manipulative-witch best today and managed to go from a party without insulting herself. 😆

Yes Ishita was very much hurt.Because she was shown what she might never have in her life...a phase of life... the one phase for which she craves the most . But hey..Ishita had stopped being all melancholy about this truth a long time ago..yes she will always feel sad when the matter some how comes up but she won't be running buckets of tears for that .that is not Ishita!! she is someone who expresses her sorrows in a very constricted and suppressed way whenever possible. So IShita's reactions seemed quite natural from the character sketch...She did reprimand Raman in her own way.And i felt that this Convesration was meant to increase Ramans's understanding of IShita a bit more..for him to understand IShita's insecurities and view of relationships and esteem in her life..And to also make Ramn realise that he is giving Shagun undue Importance in his life by his total abhorance toward her...To make him realise that this hatred should not be the feeling driving him on in his new relationship.He should find the necessary space for every relationship in his life..even the one with his ex and that space is respect for the mother of his kids something even if the later person doesn't deserve it ought to be given because that's the decent thing to do!!.And it always leaves us content when we do the decent thing.Being righteous improves our esteem and confidence.You feel at peace and that is what Raman has to achieve in l ife...his center..his eye of the storm..Ishita gave him the assurance that she would help him in this .She assured Raman that when she became Ruhi's mother she has by default made Ruhi's brother and her father a part of her responsibility too and that she would never find it a baggage to care for Adi too...Their vow to become more coordinated about their kids was a very realistic gesture.
I found two best friends talking ..One pouring out her thought and the other genuinely listening.Are they in love? I don't know. THey share mutual respect and concern and has found great confidants in each other.Now both of them are assured of the fact that they have found their support in life..They have reached the phase of a great friendship which i believe should exist between a husband and wife. Its the lack of this kind of friendship that sometimes leads to failures in relationships.Now the fact that they already have great camaraderie between them itself is assurance for the fact that their relationship is in the making of becoming a strong one.

P.S I found Adi's important date quite funny..and here i was thinking it was something else more amusing !
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Posted: 11 years ago
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in terms of Ishra...the episode was beautiful...very matured and heart touching...Its the best Ishra scenes till date...

the beauty of their relationship was shown in yesterday's heart to heart talks...that is what married life is all abt...whatever the circumstances...issues with parents...kids...friends...even in married life...have a heart to heart talk with your spouse and sort out issues...in the end...its your spouse who holds your hand throughout the journey of life...it was a beautiful and meaningful episode in terms of Ishra...

the first half can be ignored...it didn't exist for me... 😆
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Originally posted by: Mages

in terms of Ishra...the episode was beautiful...very matured and heart touching...Its the best Ishra scenes till date...

the beauty of their relationship was shown in yesterday's heart to heart talks...that is what married life is all abt...whatever the circumstances...issues with parents...kids...friends...even in married life...have a heart to heart talk with your spouse and sort out issues...in the end...its your spouse who holds your hand throughout the journey of life...it was a beautiful and meaningful episode in terms of Ishra...

the first half can be ignored...it didn't exist for me... 😆

exactly...the Convo Brought out the beauty of Ishra !! I foud it as a milestone of thier beautiful journey of discovering thier love..

I thought the first half was too long to be ignored!😆
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Originally posted by: AMJflora


exactly...the Convo Brought out the beauty of Ishra !! I foud it as a milestone of thier beautiful journey of discovering thier love..

I thought the first half was too long to be ignored!😆



when the first half happen...I was in the room... 😆 ...mom was watching that crap...and she informs me as soon the convo was over... 😆 ...the second half bowled me over...

the RamGun convo...I was listening but not watching... 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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when the first half happen...I was in the room... 😆 ...mom was watching that crap...and she informs me as soon the convo was over... 😆 ...the second half bowled me over...

the RamGun convo...I was listening but not watching... 😆

had i not been watching it on the Tv i know i would have gone by my habit of' forward and forget Apshagun' .Except for the whole weird- stem -cell -renewal- was- the- imp- date matter i found the convo quite bearable and even liked it!!
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had i not been watching it on the Tv i know i would have gone by my habit of' forward and forget Apshagun' .Except for the whole weird- stem -cell -renewal- was- the- imp- date matter i found the convo quite bearable and even liked it!!



the convo was a disaster for me...everything is fine...his love for his son and all...
but unknown to himself...raman did what shagun wanted...made her superior of ishu...
he has made her delusional world even stronger...now she will still in her own world thinking that raman still loves her and adi being his weakness...he will use him as a weapon to enter raman's life
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: AMJflora

.Ok atleast one was! Raman was and always will be thankful to Shagun for the children she gave him..that's a fact and it can't be changed. Raman was talking to Adi's mother and NOT HIS WIFE! Yes the Happiness he felt when Adi came to the world does have Shagun also in the picture...he had a happy time with her too!! fond memories always remain as fond memories

And that was the joy he was talking about..about the feeling when he became a DAD FOR THE FIRST TIME! you can't have your first kid multiple times now can you?There is always some thing special when something happens for the first time...ok i know it might be a weird example..but for instance think about our first crush...we may have many crushes but there is something special about the first one..and that is the fact that it was your first one. The first time you felt that way.. I think many of us misunderstood Raman's statement there he was talking about the fact that he will never feel the joy of having his FIRST Kid ever again with anyone else.

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..agree with your views...even i didt find any issue with the epi...both the sections were apt in their own right...where in first...the women with whom raman was dealing was the MOTHER of his first baby...which has very special space in ramans life...as he made him father...so there was more a FATHER of him which we saw...as adi was living with shagun...and he kept promise to do everything for his son...even if he doesnt stay with him any more...so is was right as FATHER...
in second section he was dealing with the women...who is also mother of his second child...who is also special...but due to shagun he missed out live the fatherly behaviour...bcoz...he want to prove shagun...and want to acheive something for which shagun left him...in all this...somewhere he...remained away from ruhi...but ishu..coming into his life...made the space so that he can now enjoy...his life as being ruhi father...becoz...now he doesnt want to prove to shagun anymore...now he want to make-up all that he lost...related to ruhi...thanks to ISHU...so in my opinion...raman...is happy with the mother of his second child...becoz...he knows that...she is the one who completed her family...she is the one who completed it...
....@RED.....yes thats the true meaning of his sentence...but i guess lot of people understood it wrongly...even if ishu gets preg...he will enjoy the fatherhood...but not withthe same feeling of holding ones first baby...n all those emotions of first time...ever as that is something special.! ..he expressed it so nicely to ishu at hospital...
so folks...RAMAN KO GAALI MAT DO...HE IS PERFECT AS FATHER AND AS HUSBAND! atleast mere liye toh hain...😊
N: what ishu...raman ka woh matlab nahi toh jo aapne samjha...abt that sentence...iska matlab raman ke andar aake liye feelings aapse jyada hain...usne aapke chehre ki thakan dekh li...par aap...ne uski baaton ka galat matlb liya...bad! koi nahin samjh sakti hoon...now u r in a different confusing world...of ur FEELINGS towards raman!😊

...sorry for boring you all ...who are reading it by mistake...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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the convo was a disaster for me...everything is fine...his love for his son and all...
but unknown to himself...raman did what shagun wanted...made her superior of ishu...
he has made her delusional world even stronger...now she will still in her own world thinking that raman still loves her and adi being his weakness...he will use him as a weapon to enter raman's life

for me it was fine ..because well he was saying what he felt for Adi..and yes the stem cell thingy for me was OTT but everythiing else was fine..Raman was just saying that he was thankful to Shagun for giving him his first child...its fact...he can't change it not the memories of his pagalpan at that time...if Shagun finds it as reassurance for Raman's (clearly non-existent ) its her problem...IShra doesn't give two hoots about Shagun's fantasies !😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Lovely post
Agree with u. I too loved ystrdy epi too much. there was pain in it but reality too.
Regarding PS. I too find it funny. I ve also kept stem cell of son but it. doesnt require renewal yearly basis. actually its for 21 yrs contract. n why does they require blood sample of Raman for contract renewal. at the time of child birth too they take blood Sample of mother only.😕
Sorry for typo I m replying frm my mobile.
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Originally posted by: AMJflora


for me it was fine ..because well he was saying what he felt for Adi..and yes the stem cell thingy for me was OTT but everythiing else was fine..Raman was just saying that he was thankful to Shagun for giving him his first child...its fact...he can't change it not the memories of his pagalpan at that time...if Shagun finds it as reassurance for Raman's (clearly non-existent ) its her problem...IShra doesn't give two hoots about Shagun's fantasies !😆



Raman's love for adi...its all fine...he is a father...I am proud of him...he is the best father
but that crazy women...I don't trust her...its her fantasies that will make her even more crazy than she is 😡

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