Dancing with the Stars (Crossed)

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Posted: 11 years ago
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That Raman and Shagun danced together --Raman out of spite and Shagun out of a sense of conquest-- is not exceptional, but it could have been portrayed differently in a manner that was more natural to the plot and the characters, instead of what appeared to be sheer misogyny couched in a lofty rhetoric of teaching one woman a lesson at the cost of another.

These dynamics were an interesting repetition and reversal of the last time there was a dance in YHM --during the holi function. Then, Raman had already made his point that a dance shared between a married couple was special, and proceeded to use a confused and angry Ishita to prove his point.

Here too, we have more of the same dynamics, this time with two women being used by Raman to grind his various axes. Interestingly both are dropped by him, one figuratively when he states at the beginning that he would not dance with her, and the other, literally, in the middle of the dance itself.

Raman's philosophical observations the dance, and its symbolism regarding the two women in his life --his past and his present was at best awkward and at worst downright tasteless. It was neither the time nor the place for airing such musings in public, and would have definitely made the guests ill at ease, and taken the limelight away from the two couples who were there to get engaged. Although he apologised to Ishita later and requested her to walk with him step by step in the dance of life, it was insufficient to assuage the public rejection delivered by Raman just moments earlier. We know that Ishita is very sensitive about being rejected and, although rather resilient, emotionally speaking, does not recover easily when she is rejected.

Finally, the gap between Raman and Ishita's public presentation of themselves, and their private lives is larger than a crater on the moon. In private, they struggle to express themselves even for the most basic things. They are so busy playing savior in others' lives that they have a wall of unaddressed issues separating them. Ishita retreats to her speeches, and Raman to his one-liner zingers, and in this way they proceed, moping and coping along with each other. Instead of playing PDA -PDA (public display of affection), these two should work on at least having a civil relationship one on one before they foist their version of an ideal companionship on another audience.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree that it was insensitive of raman to create such a tasteless spectacle on mihir's special day, there was no need to air his dirty laundry in front of the guests like that. But this is ekta's drama. her dramas are known for public tamasha's and I choose to ignore a lot of things because it is tv serial.



Raman's behaviour today was a result of years of pent up frustrations. He is over and done with shagun, but she does not waste any opportunity to taunt him at every party. she was acting all high and mighty at the holi party and even today, raman finally had enough and lost it. I don't think it was the right way to handle things but he needed closure and reacted without thinking. This was the first time he went after like this, he was definitely out for blood.

In this entire spectacle, ishita was the collateral damage. Raman's sweet speech and apology does not negate the public humiliation and rejection she suffered. he communicated the wrong message here- that he uses ishita to prove a point to shagun, and that she is only there to complete the aspects of raman's life which shagun left incomplete. his entire convoluted revenge plot massively backfired on him because ishita suffered the most.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Damage is done - Though for a moment he did humiliate Ishita. She was all ebullient when she stepped in to dance, only to be stopped by Raman and then had to get her ears stuffed by what followed - "Mera pehla pyaar".

He did say a sorry later on, which was really sweet considering the person he is, and he almost proposed to her by extending his hand asking her if she would walk along with him unlike Shagun who left him at his lows.

It's similar to being offered a teaspoon of sugar after being fed a bitter medicine. Sugar is sweet, but Ishu has experienced the bitterness, though momentarily - It is something that Raman should make up for sure in private. Not in front of a crowd that he usually does. They respect each other and that has to come out when they are inside four walls to feel the warmth of thoughts for each other. PDA is something this couple should keep off for sometime until they repair the anatomy of their relationship first.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Again aimf, such a well written post.
Agree with everything, especially:

Finally, the gap between Raman and Ishita's public presentation of themselves, and their private lives is larger than a crater on the moon. In private, they struggle to express themselves even for the most basic things. They are so busy playing savior in others' lives that they have a wall of unaddressed issues separating them. Ishita retreats to her speeches, and Raman to his one-liner zingers, and in this way they proceed, moping and coping along with each other. Instead of playing PDA -PDA (public display of affection), these two should work on at least having a civil relationship one on one before they foist their version of an ideal companionship on another audience.


They both are afraid of intimacy with each other. Although with Ishita I think it is more the physical intimacy and for Raman it is the emotional intimacy and facing the depth of his feelings for her.

If Raman stopped being in you face all the time, I think Ishita would be willing to let down her guard and meet him more than half way.

It is interesting that you use the word coping - so true. They just met only a few months ago and got married in a whirlwind of drama and since then they have had one drama after another, one change after another. If you look at it from a change management point of view, that is one heck of a lot of life altering changes. It is no wonder, they are doing their best to cope especially with each having a painful past
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@ pomegranate

Thank you for your well written response.
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@Indian Isha

What a great analogy of the sugar following the bitter pill. All their interactions are like that.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@ asha

Thanks for your kind words. Your point about the lead couple being frightened of physical and emotional intimacy is spot on.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@all

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Great post aimf .👏.👏.👏Much needed post .

I totally agree with your post . I thought I was the only one who was having problems with these two dances ,Inappropriate behavior , inappropriate timing and place . This was Mihir's and Trisha's day .children were watching . Ramen's own daughter was watching the way he treated her both moms .very sad for Ruhi ( and they do everything for Ruhi )
I find Ramen's behavior very strange . My friend called him bipolar and he is . Many times I feel that he has duel personalities , one in public and other in private . Very difficult to tolerate.
Ishita and Ramen both avoiding each other . Afraid to come close . They both trying very hard to control themselves .This couple needs to sit down and have healthy talk . They need to stop these very childish behavior as you said he with one liner and her with lectures .there is no meaningful conversation between them .Total avoidance .
I know forum is exited about dances and they feels like Ishita and Ramen in love . if they are in love why they insult each other ? Why Ishita was insulted to teach Shagun a lesson ? Ishita is trying but he runs away . If you care about each other first thing you show them your respect when I am watching Ramen ,I feel Ramen doesn't respect himself and he doesn't know how to respect women in his life .
I hope writers don't drag this for TRIPS .


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Posted: 11 years ago
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@ Heema

Wonderful post as usual. I am happy that you responded. Your diagnosis of Raman as bipolar and ultimately a wounded and insecure hero is right on. You are also correct about the fact that these kinds of "contrast" scenes with how the hero treats the lady versus the vamp propitiate the Mahamata called TRP Devi. The irony is that because deep down our hero hates himself, it shows in the way he treats others, starting, as you mention, his own daughter. CVs, your show is slipping!


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