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Posted: 11 years ago
I think Raman,s dad ( papa ji ) sure find the truth about all this..!
superb post..👍🏼
Edited by simibrar1990 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000




See pari , this is how i see it .

Raman has experienced marraige , sex , kids , two timing , humiliation of suicide level [ his wife running away with his boss] , constant taunts on his manhood by Ashok who rubbed and rubbed it in for years , finanical upheavals , no happiness in matrimony , a bitter divorce ...in short Raman has seen it ALL .

Ishita married a burnt out man .

Now , compared to him , she has led a sheltered life . She was not married .[ Right ?] She hence experienced no two timing . Her parents and sisters r loving and they share a great bond . Looking at her simple traditional lifestyle she does not seem to be the type to sleep around . She faced 2 humiliations ...rejection in arranged marraige proposals and inability to have kids , the basic expectation of matrimony .

Raman has kids and also experienced losing them .

Ishita married an embittered burnt out man with full knowledge , rather naively , to 'protect' little Ruhi from a child abuser , who she thought Raman was . She had no idea that child abusers r as crafty as sexual predators like Parmeet . But she jumped in heroically to 'save' Ruhi .

Then she slowly began finding out that he was not so bad after all .

Bas , thats the stage their compromise marraige has reached right now . He and she r hesitantly finding out that the partner who married for compromise is not so bad .

The best thing of this stage is that they saw each other at their natural worst . They did not pretend . Ever .

Now , at this stage , it is expected that he instinctively believe her . Stand by her . Be a loyal pati . This . That .

Whereas , taken aback by the bomb that Ishita , his mom and his sister threw on him , he is behaving exactly as any man would do in this hesitant stage , turning it all over in his puzzled mind .

Neither does he have sex with her , nor romantic feelings for her , nor does he even share cordial relations with her . All he is doing is floundering with her and his puzzled shock is exactly an extension of that floundering .

Ishita may have doubted him in earlier stage as u said . But even she is in the just finding out stage and till recently she has chosen to misunderstand him over Mihir . Infact , Bala pointed it out to her that the Mihir issue is not really Raman's fault . It is totally an unresolved equation between Mihir and Mihika . Mihika has insulted and thrown Mihir out in front of Romi , danced with Romi in Holi party , not really believed him in the MMS case , in short given Mihir many mixed signals . Its I luv u Mihir once and I don't care Mihir other time . Yet , Mihika , Ishita and Mrs Iyer have behaved very coldly and unreasonably with Mihir and Trisha . If Mihir regards Raman as God , its for a reason , in the MMS case , not once did Raman even doubt that he did it . Whereas all these people who r making faces today did . But Ishita did not think that way , she simply felt Raman was being an egoistic god and forceful , its not like that at all , Bala opined objectively .

Had someone accused Raman this way , Ishita would have behaved exactly this way only . She would have thought , talked it over with Bala , tossed and turned .

Had someone accused Bala she would have done the same .

Raman has humiliated her sometimes but today he did not . In fact she invited this humiliation with her thoughtless bravado .

She decided not to tell him individually

she knew exactly what the reaction of Toshiji and Simmi would be still she wanted to drop a bomb on the family

she refused to listen when Sarika protested and said she did not want to be part of this and dragged her to police station , one must at least be sure of the back up

she accused without a single shred of proof , why the hell would they believe her word over a damad they knew longer .

Ishita handled it all wrong .

Now , i have hopes . Mr Bhalla glanced angrily at Parmeet and Rinki has seen him in Ishita's room . Trisha who was walking Muthu has seen her fleeing at the appointed hour . And Raman who would have fired her if he was the old Raman actually turned all this over in his mind . The old Raman would have not hesitated a moment to fire her , this one who finds her not that bad is actually thinking over it . And i like it .


I agree Kools. I liked how you put their past and childhood as reminders of their starkly contrast behaviors. With Raman, I am with you completely. Although, my grouse with him comes from his behavior with her so far. I mean, I get that he is not in love with her, doesn't consider this a marriage, but he has so far seen her be the best mother to Ruhi and only on terms of basic respect, I expect him to not raise questions about their private relationship and question her character. Although, I am very sure this is a ploy by the CV's to show Raman as trapping PArmeet by taking him into confidence. But I feel Ishita has suffered way too much humiliation and disrespect not just by his family, but him too on many many counts before, especially even after living with her to know her basic nature and to see her as a mother to Ruhi. If nothing else, on this count, I expect show of respect. although, like I said, his behavior today is in line with his character, so I am not surprised.

Her behavior too is in line with her character. Ishita is too righteous and stupidly naive at the same time. Her previous accounts of publicly opining on Raman on national TV, her belief in Shagun and Ashok are all examples of how she takes things on face value without considering anything. In this case, I too fail to understand why she did not tell Raman in the car before blurting it out like a shocker in front of all. I get that she wanted everyone to know, but Raman should have known first and in private.

But I do understand your point when you reverse it to Bala Mihika and Raman scenario for Ishita. I suddenly know what youre saying about how she would react too.

But now I also know that suddenly they will show Raman finding out the truth exposing Parmeet and hitting him while filmily saying " Meri biwi pe nazar daalne ki teri himmat kaise huyi" and Ishita will have tears of gratefulness and love in her eyes and all will be well with the BG playing in background. hahah
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Posted: 11 years ago
Only way to redeem Raman is by punishing Pervert.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Only way to redeem Raman is by punishing Pervert.

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nothing is enough. especially from those a**h*le bhalla's
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: pomegranate


nothing is enough. especially from those a**h*le bhalla's

Raman has no way to redeem his actions. His sister's slaps, his mother's tongue and everything that he put her through. I think this is one place any woman would feel vulnerable and would want support, that's where he left her. What a shame. Ishita must never return back to bhalla tabela. No matter howmuch sorry they are. Ishu must stand for her self respect and show Raman what crap his mom, sis, his younger brother and himself are.
Run Ishu as fast as you can away from Ravan!!! You are not a BIMBO like Shagun, you are not ganwar like Simi, you are not evil like MRs. Bhalla. Your parents are amazing they will support you and be their support and kick the Bhallas out of your life once in for all.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Nicely written Kri !!

Ok here is what I feel ... and please bear in mind people this is from an audience's POV ... no offence to anyone or anyone's opinion 😊

Can I first just say well done to the entire team of YHM... firstly for taking up a sensitive topic like sexual harassment and portraying it on screen... Kudos to all the actors today who have done so well ... I also loved the BG score played in the epi today esp the one playing when IRB was saying what Pervmeet did with her in fb...not OTT at all 👏👏👏
I don't know where to start so things might come out in random order 😳...I think I will say it character wise
So first up Ishita ...God my heart went out to her...if only I could give her a big big hug ... to come and have to recollect and then retell the whole story to all family members requires a whole lot of courage...not only in front of her MIL and nanad but also Romi and her FIL 👏... she was hurt yet she wanted to truth to come and she tried her best to put her matter out there...when she was slapped by Simmi there was look of shock on her face rather than pain ...she pleaded and she begged for her to be trusted ... but what caused the most pain was when RKB asked to check the phone... the woman was shattered... it was as if she had been punched in the stomach ... she expected RKB to believe her and him asking to check the phone just shattered her 😭
RKB... when IRB was saying everything he was listening intently and was shocked and flabbergasted ... as normal person would be hearing something like this to happen in their house with two people he is related to...
when Simmi was yelling at IRB that she is lying ... he told Simmi to shut up ... when Simmi slapped IRB...he shouted at Simmi... he could not stop the slapping as it was sudden... but he didn't like that either and he made sure he told Simmi about it...
After hearing the story ... when he says Ishita agar aisi baat this then how did you land up in jail??.. ab please haath jod ta hoon... mu kholo..... just notice his voice... he is all choked up...
When all are trying to stop PervMeet from leaving the house ... RKB doesn't move an inch... he stays rooted while trying to at least make head and tail of what he has just heard ...
About phone messages...after hearing the message read by Simmi wouldn't any normal person be dumbfounded and may I add hurt ... but he wanted to see for himself ... he is a shrewd and smart businessman and needs proof ... and like a rational person questioned IRB about it ... he heard IRB saying her phone was not with her... heck even he wasn't able to contact her so how could she have sent the messages
But as soon as he saw the messages ... his expressions did change... and the next line of "Kya hai yeh" please please look at his expression but also his tone of voice... it is not accusative... I can't describe it in a word... he is trying to question her ... there should have been anger in his voice right but no there is no anger ... casual toned down fake anger... Oh I don't know how to say it 🤔... but I hope you get what I mean
Maybe he saw the time of message sent and it was when he had also tried to contact IRB but phone was switched off ... also the type of Hindi used.. like that word "kewal" aap .. never heard IRB say that
Right him mentioning about both of them not having any physical relation ... yes it is a private matter between two people and should not have come out in front of the family... but wasn't it obvious from the messages?? Bearing in mind we only heard one message... That phone went to Simmi and Toshiji ... had they had heard all the messages I'm sure this secret would have come out anyhow...
and him asking her ... well he knows she was the one who was insistent that this thing would remain between the two of them so she is not stupid to go and tell Parmeet and esp not write it in a message... and she is not stupid to write messages and carelessly leave behind bread crumb trails ... He did realise and remember how IRB was sounding weird over the phone while he was in Mumbai
Trust... now he does trust her... it is so visible in his voice and expressions until Simmi read that message ...and the phone message did shake him a bit ... which he why is wanted to check for himself...
be it a 3 month or 30 year relationship ... trust to break doesn't take 3 seconds... and him checking the phone message is trying to confirm something that he has in mind... he is not a blindly trust guy at all... no he is a shrewd straight forward businessman who needs to see things in order to believe them .. just like Mihir and MMS matter... there was no proof hence he wasn't ready to blame Mihir... and this is a marriage .. which you cant even call a proper marriage so what was he supposed to do
And not to forget Simmi is his sister .. so he cannot just jump to conclusions either regarding IRB or PervMeet esp now when nothing has been proven
Simmi... her behaviour was justified...she is in love with her husband ... she has a small kid ... it is obvious she wouldn't want to believe IRB ...no wife can hear something like this about her husband ... and esp after reading those messages even that slap was justified... anyone would have done the same...I really liked her line that mu se nilki hui baat wapis nahin aa sakti .. so true... she is afraid for her family and uska gussa jayaz hain
Toshiji ... I don't know.. she doesn't seem to want to use her brains...she wanted it all to stay hidden... was shocked what happened today... she did acknowledge when IRB said PervMeet sent everyone for the movie while he stayed back ... she did stop Simmi in the end who was again getting aggressive with IRB... but when Simmi mentioned IRB hovering around PervMeet she was like yeah that's true...and then her saying no one in this house is like this?? what about your supoot Romi...😕
Romi... he was good today...when Simmi was getting aggressive with IRB he was the one to try and stop this ... he was also shocked and disgusted when IRB was mentioning the things PervMeet done with her ... ofcourse he is not doodh ka dhula either but he does respect his bhabhi
Mr Bhalla... was definitely shocked and disgusted...just look at his reaction towards PervMeet esp when IRB is talking about Pervmeet trying to touch her thighs while driving... and he kept throwing disgusted looks at his SIL too
My only question is .. where is Rinky?? Why isn't she here to witness all this... was this deliberate ??... Would she have said anything in relation to this??? ... I feel as a woman she should have heard what IRB was saying about Pervmeet so she herself can be alert... I don't know 🤔
Finally PervMeet... no words or comments 🤬
That's all 😆

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ThruMyEyez-Nita


@ bold - My thought exactly. If he had just kept his mouth shut, I would have still been happy - but what he said - indirectly blaming Ishita was what broke my heart.

Agree with you both...what he said was most wrong and at the wrong time..!!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: pomegranate

Blue: no one expects him to defend ishita blindly. given the situation, raman's silence is expected. if you see the reactions here, people are mad at him for questioning her at the end. they understand why he did not defend her. Ishita loves ruhi like her own, she takes care of her every need, she even puts up with raman and his uncouth family- all for ruhi. if not trust, then she automatically deserves respect and gratitude. if raman cannot trust her, then he could have at least respect what little dignity she had left.
I wish ishita told him this prior to revealing it to his family, maybe this whole mess could have been avoided but seeing her plight today and yesterday, I cannot blame this on her. as a women, I will support her till end. ishita is a victim here, could she have done things differently? DEFINITELY, but none of this is her fault. besides, I doubt she expected the tables to turn on her so viciously, she was almost molested and then put in prison for doing the right thing. at that point she was desperate for someone to believe her but fell into permeet's trap instead. in order to deal with a sex offender, you need to know the mentality of one and unfortunately, poor ishita could not fathom how low can parmeet get.


ok i understand your pov. but i saw a threads and posts angry at raman for not defending her hence i wrote all that. what i dont understand is why people are still angry at raman for questioning her? what was he suppose to do?? he had two options, defend ishita or be support his sister and hurl abuses at ishita like that simmi or her mother. he chose to question the situation and proceeded logically by trying to find anything that can clear up the situation. yes ishita has done a lot for family and raman def respects her for that and that is quite clear in past few episodes. even today he was not yelling at her or accusing her and that is his way of being calm and giving respect to her. old raman would have already kicked her out of this house by now without even listening to her.today raman clearly expressed his confusion by saying he cant decide. so why is he so wrong here? he is just not picking sides here. he wants to support the truth but he does not know it so now he will try to find out.
there is no question that ishita is the victim here and i was never against her fight for justice or did i ever say this is her fault. this is all on that pervert parmeet. i know ishita has never been much of a thinker, she was always fast on acting on her thoughts. but even after knowing how uncouth raman's family is, why would she confide in them first?? she could have gone to her parents or someone who would listen to her? in such situations, girls usually talk to her parents first.what i m saying is ishita did not handle the situation smartly. she is strong, confident and mature hence i was expecting that from her. although after reading your post i can see this whole scenario in a different way too.😊
Edited by john909 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: pari87


While i completely agree with you, I also want to point out the contrasting personalities of ishita and raman. Ishita is face value, if something is wrong she doesn't wait to play smart, she wants to immediately let it out, like also in her assumption of ruhi and raman relationship based on shagun's lies. She immediately went public also with her opinion, instead of giving it time to figure the reality of things. In this case however, she should have told Raman in the car privately, because she had already seen simmi and toshi's refusal to her claims before. Plus, ultimately this concerns Raman's sister too and she should have known that he is just back from a trip and has no idea of what's been happening behind his back ( toshi and simmi knew because ishita had told them once before) so it only made sense to tell Raman before hand instead of giving him a shocker in front of his family. Obviously his shock is natural.

But, her waiting to take evidence and prove this instead of blurting it out doesn't make sense. Only because, she is traumatized. She has just been molested and groped by her BIL and in such a situation one doesn't think smartly. One just wants the guy to be put behind bars so she can feel safe and have others around her be safe too. Her wanting to blurt it out was very very natural of someone who has been traumatized and is literally in fear of this guy. And not to mention ishita is very striaghtforward. She believes truth needs no evidence. And that is naivete in dealing with such a big big allegation that too in her own family.


Raman is a businessman, shrewd and someone who thinks things through. Although his behavior with Ishita is usually act first think later. So I guess that too is in line with his character. Although, I agree he knows how to deal with issues that are so complex, especially involving relationships, as he did in Adi's case.

well i agree wid whatever you said. well said.😊
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: PreciousPri

Nicely written Kri !!

Ok here is what I feel ... and please bear in mind people this is from an audience's POV ... no offence to anyone or anyone's opinion 😊

Can I first just say well done to the entire team of YHM... firstly for taking up a sensitive topic like sexual harassment and portraying it on screen... Kudos to all the actors today who have done so well ... I also loved the BG score played in the epi today esp the one playing when IRB was saying what Pervmeet did with her in fb...not OTT at all 👏👏👏
I don't know where to start so things might come out in random order 😳...I think I will say it character wise
So first up Ishita ...God my heart went out to her...if only I could give her a big big hug ... to come and have to recollect and then retell the whole story to all family members requires a whole lot of courage...not only in front of her MIL and nanad but also Romi and her FIL 👏... she was hurt yet she wanted to truth to come and she tried her best to put her matter out there...when she was slapped by Simmi there was look of shock on her face rather than pain ...she pleaded and she begged for her to be trusted ... but what caused the most pain was when RKB asked to check the phone... the woman was shattered... it was as if she had been punched in the stomach ... she expected RKB to believe her and him asking to check the phone just shattered her 😭
RKB... when IRB was saying everything he was listening intently and was shocked and flabbergasted ... as normal person would be hearing something like this to happen in their house with two people he is related to...
when Simmi was yelling at IRB that she is lying ... he told Simmi to shut up ... when Simmi slapped IRB...he shouted at Simmi... he could not stop the slapping as it was sudden... but he didn't like that either and he made sure he told Simmi about it...
After hearing the story ... when he says Ishita agar aisi baat this then how did you land up in jail??.. ab please haath jod ta hoon... mu kholo..... just notice his voice... he is all choked up...
When all are trying to stop PervMeet from leaving the house ... RKB doesn't move an inch... he stays rooted while trying to at least make head and tail of what he has just heard ...
About phone messages...after hearing the message read by Simmi wouldn't any normal person be dumbfounded and may I add hurt ... but he wanted to see for himself ... he is a shrewd and smart businessman and needs proof ... and like a rational person questioned IRB about it ... he heard IRB saying her phone was not with her... heck even he wasn't able to contact her so how could she have sent the messages
But as soon as he saw the messages ... his expressions did change... and the next line of "Kya hai yeh" please please look at his expression but also his tone of voice... it is not accusative... I can't describe it in a word... he is trying to question her ... there should have been anger in his voice right but no there is no anger ... casual toned down fake anger... Oh I don't know how to say it 🤔... but I hope you get what I mean
Maybe he saw the time of message sent and it was when he had also tried to contact IRB but phone was switched off ... also the type of Hindi used.. like that word "kewal" aap .. never heard IRB say that
Right him mentioning about both of them not having any physical relation ... yes it is a private matter between two people and should not have come out in front of the family... but wasn't it obvious from the messages?? Bearing in mind we only heard one message... That phone went to Simmi and Toshiji ... had they had heard all the messages I'm sure this secret would have come out anyhow...
and him asking her ... well he knows she was the one who was insistent that this thing would remain between the two of them so she is not stupid to go and tell Parmeet and esp not write it in a message... and she is not stupid to write messages and carelessly leave behind bread crumb trails ... He did realise and remember how IRB was sounding weird over the phone while he was in Mumbai
Trust... now he does trust her... it is so visible in his voice and expressions until Simmi read that message ...and the phone message did shake him a bit ... which he why is wanted to check for himself...
be it a 3 month or 30 year relationship ... trust to break doesn't take 3 seconds... and him checking the phone message is trying to confirm something that he has in mind... he is not a blindly trust guy at all... no he is a shrewd straight forward businessman who needs to see things in order to believe them .. just like Mihir and MMS matter... there was no proof hence he wasn't ready to blame Mihir... and this is a marriage .. which you cant even call a proper marriage so what was he supposed to do
And not to forget Simmi is his sister .. so he cannot just jump to conclusions either regarding IRB or PervMeet esp now when nothing has been proven
Simmi... her behaviour was justified...she is in love with her husband ... she has a small kid ... it is obvious she wouldn't want to believe IRB ...no wife can hear something like this about her husband ... and esp after reading those messages even that slap was justified... anyone would have done the same...I really liked her line that mu se nilki hui baat wapis nahin aa sakti .. so true... she is afraid for her family and uska gussa jayaz hain
Toshiji ... I don't know.. she doesn't seem to want to use her brains...she wanted it all to stay hidden... was shocked what happened today... she did acknowledge when IRB said PervMeet sent everyone for the movie while he stayed back ... she did stop Simmi in the end who was again getting aggressive with IRB... but when Simmi mentioned IRB hovering around PervMeet she was like yeah that's true...and then her saying no one in this house is like this?? what about your supoot Romi...😕
Romi... he was good today...when Simmi was getting aggressive with IRB he was the one to try and stop this ... he was also shocked and disgusted when IRB was mentioning the things PervMeet done with her ... ofcourse he is not doodh ka dhula either but he does respect his bhabhi
Mr Bhalla... was definitely shocked and disgusted...just look at his reaction towards PervMeet esp when IRB is talking about Pervmeet trying to touch her thighs while driving... and he kept throwing disgusted looks at his SIL too
My only question is .. where is Rinky?? Why isn't she here to witness all this... was this deliberate ??... Would she have said anything in relation to this??? ... I feel as a woman she should have heard what IRB was saying about Pervmeet so she herself can be alert... I don't know 🤔
Finally PervMeet... no words or comments 🤬
That's all 😆

wow👏

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