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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree with the thought that Ishita is very judgemental and impulsive by nature.For a moment I would like to pay attention to the kind of circumstances that have propped up before her. Raman refusing to give blood to the very child who has grown up before his eyes as his daughter(when we often hear about a stranger helping another total stranger in cases of emergency for blood just out of humanity),he treating the child with an aversion and pulling and pushing her because of his own insecurities formed by a third person' words,the words that were spoken by Raman in his office and he mocking Ishita for her infertility was disgustful to even watch as a viewer,the nature of Raman to attach a monetary value to everything and every person around him could be seen when he offered money to Ishita to help him in Ruhi' case..Many more incidents could be added over here.The image that Ishita has of Raman is that of a stone hearted man whose present is obsessed with his past and who has made himself nothing but a money earning machine,devoid of any emotions.Everytime the circumstances have given Ishita good enough reasons to stand by her views about Raman.They have just added more fuel to the image that she has formed of him.Now,when do we realise we are wrong in any situation?Its only when we come across something that points out to a flaw in our worldview.Its just a matter of time before Ishita begins to introspect her nature with respect to her habit of forming opinions without any second thoughts or a benefit of doubt.
If Ishita is judgemental and impulsive,then so is Raman in all respects,but its just that this character gains sympathy because of his past which has made him so.He is impatient,arrogant and too cynical of the world.From the time Shagun left him to his present,all that he has done is to harden himself on the outside while from within he was the same Raman who was vulnerable and gullible in the hands of Shagun and Ashok back then and even now.Little did he grow as a person in all these years.Everyone in the Bhalla household dance to his words.Except for Mr.Bhalla at times,there is no one who can show him how he has been running behind something all these years which is not worth spending a portion of his life.Now this is where I find Ishita doing the right thing.She is the one who can show him the mirror,help him out of the mess and bring to the surface the person he actually is. I agree with everything that Ishita spoke out yestedary(except for the bit regarding Aditya).Though she might have been judgemental all the way but it is the need of the moment that Raman be made to realise how he has been wasting all his life in perpetual misery and that revenge which most of all is burning him from within.

To sum it up,both Ishita and Raman are highly flawed characters.But what matters from here on is the way the writers would actually develop the characters for the good.Wish to see that happening in the coming days.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: aadk

I agree with the thought that Ishita is very judgemental and impulsive by nature.For a moment I would like to pay attention to the kind of circumstances that have propped up before her. Raman refusing to give blood to the very child who has grown up before his eyes as his daughter(when we often hear about a stranger helping another total stranger in cases of emergency for blood just out of humanity),he treating the child with an aversion and pulling and pushing her because of his own insecurities formed by a third person' words,the words that were spoken by Raman in his office and he mocking Ishita for her infertility was disgustful to even watch as a viewer,the nature of Raman to attach a monetary value to everything and every person around him could be seen when he offered money to Ishita to help him in Ruhi' case..Many more incidents could be added over here.The image that Ishita has of Raman is that of a stone hearted man whose present is obsessed with his past and who has made himself nothing but a money earning machine,devoid of any emotions.Everytime the circumstances have given Ishita good enough reasons to stand by her views about Raman.They have just added more fuel to the image that she has formed of him.Now,when do we realise we are wrong in any situation?Its only when we come across something that points out to a flaw in our worldview.Its just a matter of time before Ishita begins to introspect her nature with respect to her habit of forming opinions without any second thoughts or a benefit of doubt.

If Ishita is judgemental and impulsive,then so is Raman in all respects,but its just that this character gains sympathy because of his past which has made him so.He is impatient,arrogant and too cynical of the world.From the time Shagun left him to his present,all that he has done is to harden himself on the outside while from within he was the same Raman who was vulnerable and gullible in the hands of Shagun and Ashok back then and even now.Little did he grow as a person in all these years.Everyone in the Bhalla household dance to his words.Except for Mr.Bhalla at times,there is no one who can show him how he has been running behind something all these years which is not worth spending a portion of his life.Now this is where I find Ishita doing the right thing.She is the one who can show him the mirror,help him out of the mess and bring to the surface the person he actually is. I agree with everything that Ishita spoke out yestedary(except for the bit regarding Aditya).Though she might have been judgemental all the way but it is the need of the moment that Raman be made to realise how he has been wasting all his life in perpetual misery and that revenge which most of all is burning him from within.

To sum it up,both Ishita and Raman are highly flawed characters.But what matters from here on is the way the writers would actually develop the characters for the good.Wish to see that happening in the coming days.


Hey friend so good to converse with you on the forum . I thought , I will never get this golden apotunity again . Thanks .lovely post . I agree with your POVs

Now these are my POVs .Two educated and successful adults .both are suffering from betrayed ,rejection , hurt and insults and both feeling terrible sense of loss and anger .

Ishita rejected by her love and other men for being infertile. Ramen rejected by his wife for not able to provide and keep her happy .both have one thing in common pain and anger .
. He wasn't good provider and she wasn't real women to propagate babies . One has fear of loosing children and other has fear of not being a parent both very real fear for mankind . Devastating to both. .
Both with exact same emotional issues but reacting differently. Both have same goal but approaches different . The way Ramen is acting is easy to digest ( I don't agree but I understand ) but the way Ishita behaves, its hard to understand . This is educated girl has mind of her own , very loving daughter. why did she marry him ? Just for Ruhi ? Instant motherhood? Chance to prove some one that she wasn't reject ? !For her obsession or her love ? Why she didnot find another solution? Being in loveless marriage is very hard . I cannot imagine spending rest of my life in the family who hates me . Bhallas with totally different culture , non vegetarian ,drinkers , Ramen who hates women. Arrogant, rude . . In near future Ruhi might not need her .then what ?

Ramen obsessed with money , fame . Revenge . Typical male ego . He doesn't realize that when you begin to start taking revenge , you start by digging two graves, one for your enemy, and one for yourself.. End results are very ugly .

Ishita obsessed with being married and being mother,so she can to prove to society and to make her mother happy .At any cost she wanted to get married and become a mother. ( very sad ) . but at what cost ?Is it love, obsession, infatuations ?why Ishita , why ?
Both have insulted and hurt each other ( misplaced anger ). But Two wrongs don't make it right but it makes it even.

When Ishita talks or lecture he listens .doesnot agree with her but he gives her time to finish .when he tries talks she interrupts doesn't listen . What Ishita is saying to Ramen is 100% right but the way she says is wrong . She doesnot mean tobe mean or rude but she come across very bitchy . She needs to know When he talk, listen completely , she never listens .Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn her life around.she might be very happy with him .he is caring and loving man .i just want Inshita to listen to him once and have heart to heart talk ( this is not good for the show )
In my previous post, I wrote and you also mentioned the same, they both are flawed character. Deserve each other . This why we are enjoying the story. Who wants to see perfect couple and happy life ? Who has that ? We are all dreamers . .



Edited by Heema22 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Heema22


Hey friend so good to converse with you on the forum . I thought , I will never get this golden apotunity again . Thanks .lovely post . I agree with your POVs

Now these are my POVs .Two educated and successful adults .both are suffering from betrayed ,rejection , hurt and insults and both feeling terrible sense of loss and anger .

Ishita rejected by her love and other men for being infertile. Ramen rejected by his wife for not able to provide and keep her happy .both have one thing in common pain and anger .
. He wasn't good provider and she wasn't real women to propagate babies . One has fear of loosing children and other has fear of not being a parent both very real fear for mankind . Devastating to both. .
Both with exact same emotional issues but reacting differently. Both have same goal but approaches different . The way Ramen is acting is easy to digest ( I don't agree but I understand ) but the way Ishita behaves, its hard to understand . This is educated girl has mind of her own , very loving daughter. why did she marry him ? Just for Ruhi ? Instant motherhood? Chance to prove some one that she wasn't reject ? !For her obsession or her love ? Why she didnot find another solution? Being in loveless marriage is very hard . I cannot imagine spending rest of my life in the family who hates me . Bhallas with totally different culture , non vegetarian ,drinkers , Ramen who hates women. Arrogant, rude . . In near future Ruhi might not need her .then what ?

Ramen obsessed with money , fame . Revenge . Typical male ego . He doesn't realize that when you begin to start taking revenge , you start by digging two graves, one for your enemy, and one for yourself.. End results are very ugly .

Ishita obsessed with being married and being mother,so she can to prove to society and to make her mother happy .At any cost she wanted to get married and become a mother. ( very sad ) . but at what cost ?Is it love, obsession, infatuations ?why Ishita , why ?
Both have insulted and hurt each other ( misplaced anger ). But Two wrongs don't make it right but it makes it even.

When Ishita talks or lecture he listens .doesnot agree with her but he gives her time to finish .when he tries talks she interrupts doesn't listen . What Ishita is saying to Ramen is 100% right but the way she says is wrong . She doesnot mean tobe mean or rude but she come across very bitchy . She needs to know When he talk, listen completely , she never listens .Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn her life around.she might be very happy with him .he is caring and loving man .i just want Inshita to listen to him once and have heart to heart talk ( this is not good for the show )
In my previous post, I wrote and you also mentioned the same, they both are flawed character. Deserve each other . This why we are enjoying the story. Who wants to see perfect couple and happy life ? Who has that ? We are all dreamers . .



Heema di,thank you very much for this wonderful post which got me seriously thinking.

In the beginning of the show,I could understand Ishita' liking for Ruhi.Many a times we end up paying most of our attention to the things that are absent in our lives.The same was the case with Ishita.I really liked Ishita-Ruhi bond and infact it was the sole reason why I started watching this show.
@Bold1, There was one paticular scene in one of the episodes where Ishita and Raman have a verbal spat in Raman' office and Ishita ends up calling her father telling him that she is ready for marriage and its a 'yes' from her side.This was a big disappointing scene for me.A well educated lady like Ishita gets flared up by a random man' words and she decides to prove to the world that even with her infertility she can be a mother. I understand the part that she very much desires to be a mother(its natural to expect that from her) but the way the CVs used it as a means get her agreeing to marry a man without any queries about him was not appropriate. The very concept of 'proving something to the world' never makes sense to me. It reminds me of something that I read some time back,'Seeing you walk on the water,your haters would remark that you don't know to swim'.Proving something to the world is nothing sef-inflicted cycle of misery.

@Bold 2, I completely agree with you that Ishita is very much obsessed with the thought of being a mother.The initial liking for Ruhi was very much adorable for me to watch but the writers have now turned this like into more of an obsession.Ishita' world revolves just around Ruhi,nothing more, nothing less. Raman attaches a monetary value to everyone and everything.And Ishita attaches everyone around her with their relationship with Ruhi.She fails to look through them,detaching them for a moment from their respective relations with Ruhi.It seems as if her only criteria to judge a person is the way he/she ends up behaving with Ruhi.She needs to realise that a relation doesn't come all alone,it comes with many other relations interwined with it.Gauging all the other relations with respect to one particular relation is making Ishita more intolerant and lose the wonderful quality of respecting people first for their individuality over everything else. All that Ishita said to Raman made lots of sense.It was needed for him.But the source of all her words is her obsession with Ruhi and this obsession doesn't even let her for once look at Raman as an individual and not as Ruhi' father. Really hope to see Ishita come out of her 'Sirf Ruhi ke liye' and start looking through the people around her.

The concept of obsession has always intrigued me.I have never really understood the fine line that exists between love and obsession.Your post helped me a lot to figure out things in a better way.Thanks once again di! 🤗

Edited by aadk - 11 years ago

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