How is ichcha worng ? - Page 6

Originally posted by: ashahai_aamanke

She lives there because vansh is already dead and the three old bickering fools will be alone. They look up to veer. If she stormed out of that house then she wouldn't be iccha anymore. Her character is built with a foolish instinct that love your people even if they hurt you. If you don't think they are yours you will never sacrifice anything nor maintain patience.

Originally posted by: tinoo

Hi bips:

It appears that I have offended you with my point of view, and for that I am truly sorry. I have valued and enjoyed our interactions on the balika vadhu forum (particularly my gratitude thread where you made some great contributions that gave me insights).

With reference to your above previous post:

Your question was "How is ichcha wrong?" (the title of the thread)

I am answering that particular question -- and will recap my previous posts in a concise manner.

Ichcha is not wrong in equality of yuvraj vs. kanha.

I do feel that she is very wrong in keeping quiet about the yuvraj kidnapping scenario ... and I feel that if she has this particular moral standard of not trading kanha for yuvraj, then she should have spoken up about it to the bundelas and stood up for this core value of hers (equality of adopted child vs. biological child)... and then she should have displayed a willingness to walk out of the house and live alone with kanha if the bundelas opposed it.

Be bold and support whatever moral standard you have, is what I feel. Have the courage of conviction to support your stand.

I dont feel that she should say "this is my stand and i am going to keep quiet about it".

That to me is cowardice.

As far as ichcha not being materialistic goes -- I am sorry but I dont agree.

Materialisticness has a wide range of points.

She may not be as materialistic as tapasya (in terms of diamonds and spas) but she is definitely materialistic in terms of basic comforts.

Tell me, did she used to take the bus to rathore's home, standing up in a crowded bus or did she go in the bundela car with the bundela chauffeur to bf rathore's child (that too without telling any of the bundelas including veer ?) She uses bundela resources for her own ends.

I am not saying that she is an avid gold digger ... but I reiterate my point... she was silent because she didnt trust the bundelas ... which means there is no relationship there between her and them... and consequently, I personally dont see any reason for her living there any more. What for you live there when you dont trust the people and they get you raped and stuff? It has to be for the resources.

Originally posted by: bips

. i don't like that somehow the bundelas get to be morally superior by being proven right because veer saved both the kids ... because the fact is that all these people had no problems sending kanha to his death so they could get their waaris ... Somebody should shame them for their shabby behaviour and cheap thought process.

Originally posted by: tinoo

furthermore, I really think we need to look at the seriousness of the issue at hand...and the seriousness of the issue.

When ichcha is talking about not favouring one child over the other, it is all very good if you are discussing icecream or schooling or something like that.

Yes, it would be a big injustice if the biological child gets to go to a prestigious academy and the adopted child has to go to some under-resourced school.

It would be an injustice if the biological child gets 3 scoops of icecream, and the adopted child only gets one scoop (or maybe no icecream at all).

But here, we are talking about a kidnapped child -- and it is all very well to say that i cant sacrifice one child for the other child... but isnt that what she is doing anyway ... she was very willing to sacrifice yuvraj for kanha.

what justice is that for the biological child?

I dont think that to prove her equality principles towards an adopted child she should sacrifice her biological child. It's ridiculous.

She just kept quiet... and then put the full burden of finding yuvraj on mr. rathore by folding her hands in front of him.

This kanha issue and avinash issue is ichcha's personal issue. Avinash is a dangerous criminal.

Why put this burden of yuvraj on rathore's shoulders? Avinash has no enmity with rathore. Why drag rathore into it?

This was ichcha's issue -- she should have had the determination to handle it herself (if at all she was going to keep silent).

Though people were slightly critical of rathore not participating in the search, and not caring about yuvraj getting home safely, I personally applaud his commonsense in washing his hands off the matter. Why should he get involved in this ichcha mess and undertake enmity with some unknown source?

Originally posted by: hermione8

Yes tinoo, this is the point no.3 which I have agreed with you whole-heartedly. Ichcha fails to recognize when a relationship is dead and is holding on to it in the mistaken idea that it is a sin to separate Veer from his mom, but not realizing that in the process, she is harming her adopted kids, bringing them up in a hostile atmosphere. In trying to make her too noble, the CVs end up portraying her only as utterly stupid and dumb.

Originally posted by: tiny15

Hi tiny15, I have written about how Indian women tolerate all abuses to keep the joint family system in tact in that same post 😊. Because it was a very long post, I have not elaborated on these points which you have mentioned, which are very true.

Please see the quote from my post:

Many ladies, be it daughter-in-law or mom-in-law, try their level best to live together in the most abusive circumstances just in order to hold on to their relationships. This is a fact in the Indian joint family system.

Recently a survey has been taken in urban areas where it has been found that elder abuse is on the rise. These are cases where the aged in-laws or parents are abused by their children.

In the case of Ichcha, the reason no.1, why she has not left the B house is to keep the family together at all costs.

Reason no.2 is if she had gone away with Veer leaving B houe, Uttaran would have ended then and there since there is no scope for torturing Ichcha any further..😆. She would have lived happily with Veer and her own biological as well as adopted kids with nobody to play any mischief..😆

Reason no.3 is in our Indian soaps it is not done, namely, the good bahu never takes her husband and leaves her in-laws. Only vamp DILs do it.. This is the unwritten moral code formula for serials..😆

Edited by hermione8 - 13 years ago