How is ichcha worng ?

Ok! i usually detest ichcha as a character ... but right now, are you kidding me ? How is she in the wrong ? She is a mom. She is not trying to be mahaan (despite her irritating habit to go in that direction)

Because she truly loves Kanha as her own, because she doesn't differentiate between adopted and own (like any decent human being should). Is that wrong.

True she had no answer to umed's ques that what was the alternative ... but did maiyee have an answer to her question - would she risk veer/vansh to save the other ... How can you ask a mom to choose ?

Umed only in the end said that he trusted veer to bring both the kids back safely ... but his rest of the speech was utter nonsense ... he pretty much said - ya! we did kanha a massive favour by keeping him in the house but now we don't mind sacrificing him to save yuvraj ...

All of them are differntiating between adopted and own ... this is why adoption agencies are reluctant to give the kids to young couples ... as soon as they have their own, they start ill treating the other

even veer for all his faltu ki bravery risked kanha's life ... Would you use one of your own child as bait for a criminal ? Would you take one of your own child in a place of criminals where guns are routinely fired ? Kanha could have been killed at a dozen different points ... the only reason he was not was becuase avinash was too stupid a villain ...

And somebody should give a dressing down to dadaji and umed ... they call themselves thakurs ? ... True thakurs or true men would give their life to protect innocents ... they would not use an innocent child to get what they want ... they wouldn't decide on sending a child to his death.


I think i have opposed every single of ichcha's foolish decisions till now even the utterly stupid one of hiding all this from veer ... never thought i would side with her ... but today, seriously how do you ask a mom to choose ?

These characters - umed, daddaji & mai are just placeholders with a very poor characterization of their roles, so really no point talking about them.

Ichcha is not wrong as a mother but she is wrong as a wife, as a lover & as a friend!

Its a pity that she still can't trust Veer, did he say that he will exchange Kanha for yuvi...he only said that trust me I'll do my best...did ichcha bother at all about how hurt Veer was at her hiding facts consistently from him...can he ever trust ichcha again...atleast he had a well thought plan & was working out the best possible solution, and its not just kanha but all 3 lives were at risk at Avinash's hands, Avinash could have killed any or all of them! but what Veer did was better than doing nothing & then spend entire life regretting about it! I'm sure Veer would have done the same thing if kanha was his own child, but making a man stand at crossroads & interrogate him with impossible questions is not the right thing to do at this point of time.

Has Veer ever betrayed ichcha, ever given in to his family's pressures against ichcha? never! then how can ichcha think that he will give in to their demands this time? If umed can trust his son so much, then why not ichcha? Actually Ichcha has conveniently used Veer as a punchbag always just because he loves her a lot, poor guy...it is perfectly normal for a wife to go hyper with hubby as you would think of the worst in such situations & get all worked up...but she has insulted Veer's integrity by blaming him again! this shows she doesn't trust him at all & already judging him based on his family's response.

Did veer told iccha that vansh is fake at the first instance. No! he was worried about the threat and after so many times iccha asking him , he told her about it. Imagine a wife's pain when the husband tells the fake is real. When situations come people can't help it! why judge anyone when everyone has fair part of mistakes.

Yes iccha should stop being mahan. Take veer and go out of that bull shit house and make everyone cry their eyes out of the only son. Is that what is good???

NO mother will choose between her two sons. No matter what. All these bundelas are the worst I have ever seen in any household

Well the fake vansh case was just a threat...and eventually Veer did confide in iccha, as i understand it was quick too...but here the infant is already kidnapped & bargaining hard, so there's a difference.

Wait.. I'm confused.. didn't Veer tell Iccha he'll save both kids on Sat? About the BZoo characters-

Mai: A lost cause. Just stop expecting anything good from her. Although a small part of me agreed with her yesterday when she was so worried about Veer and Iccha kept on saying Kanha Kanha Kanha.. Any one will get super irritated.. but still, Mai is Mai, and an old fashioned, unsupportive person.

Daddaji: Mai's puppet.

Umed: A little strange, his Yuvraj is the one true waaris and all that speech. It seemed like Iccha was planning to make Kanha the waaris. But Kanha has a name of his own and a fortune of his own. He doesn't need this position. But I did like him saying trust Veer, he'll save both of them..

I just wish she'd trust Veer.. give him a chance.. if he failed, then yell! Not before.

Exactly to my point...Ichcha had hidden many many things from Veer...Time and again she has questioned Veer's integrity...when he tried to help a widow come back to life she misinterpreted that for his lust towards her, when Vansh was killed, she believed that it was Veer who killed him for getting her (this was acc to me the lowest that she could stoop, trying to show off that Vansh means more to her than what he means to Veer as a brother)...same thing is happening now. She is showing a mother's love, agreed...but why doesnt she think about Veer who is a father too...Veer had not asked Ichcha when he brought the adoption papers, he silently agreed to Ichcha's demands of not having a kid anymore to give love to Kanha and Mukta... Inspite of all this, she doesnt believe in her husband's goodness??? gimme a break...Agreed she is a mother and cant choose between her kids...but there is a limit to overreaction that tooo to ones own husband...

My point is- Ok Ichcha did not trust Veer.

akruz, agree with you completely ... I absolutely detest ichcha as a lead ... she has taken veer for granted, conveniently used him as a punching bag, distributed him like chocolate to tapu, hidden such important things from him ... She is absolutely terrible

I am solely talking in this situation ... Just this one situation ... No woman who genuinely loves her adopted child as her own would ever agree to trading children ... The idea that just because kanha is adopted, he is less precious than yuvraj, that he is expendable irritates me ...

ichcha should be pulled up for a lot of her decisions - almost all her decisions related to veer and tapu, her decision to forgive maiyee everything, her forcefully feeding someone else's child, her various stupidities etc etc etc ... the list is endless ... But not for this - She is literally the only voice of reason in this whole fiasco

And yes, finally veer took some action but seriously i thought kanha was going to die and that would cause them to split before the leap ... because tell me - when your one child is kidnapped by a criminal, will you ever take your second child to meet the said criminal ... Would you risk your child's life by taking him into the middle of gunfire ? No, never ... Just because the child is adopted, his life becomes less valuable ?

Originally posted by: bips

akruz, agree with you completely ... I absolutely detest ichcha as a lead ... she has taken veer for granted, conveniently used him as a punching bag, distributed him like chocolate to tapu, hidden such important things from him ... She is absolutely terrible

I am solely talking in this situation ... Just this one situation ... No woman who genuinely loves her adopted child as her own would ever agree to trading children ... The idea that just because kanha is adopted, he is less precious than yuvraj, that he is expendable irritates me ...

ichcha should be pulled up for a lot of her decisions - almost all her decisions related to veer and tapu, her decision to forgive maiyee everything, her forcefully feeding someone else's child, her various stupidities etc etc etc ... the list is endless ... But not for this - She is literally the only voice of reason in this whole fiasco

And yes, finally veer took some action but seriously i thought kanha was going to die and that would cause them to split before the leap ... because tell me - when your one child is kidnapped by a criminal, will you ever take your second child to meet the said criminal ... Would you risk your child's life by taking him into the middle of gunfire ? No, never ... Just because the child is adopted, his life becomes less valuable ?

Did Iccha do anything when Avinash was threatening her with taking Yuvi's life? Iccha was wrong by just keeping quiet, sobbing bucketful of tears, and not confiding in Veer. When Veer comes to know about Yuvraj, he decides take action to save Yuvraaj and Kanha with the Inspector's help. Did Iccha trust Veer to save both the kids? Iccha was wrong once again and blames Veer about taking Kanha to trade for Yuvi instead of trusting him. She is an abject failure as a wife and confidante and cannot do anything right.