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dreamz12

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Posted: 14 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: anaamica
I am a Veecha fan and hate Tapasya from the core, but even I found Nani's words to be true in yesterday's episode.

When Taps was pregnant (and all were unaware she was lying about the baby's father), Jogi never showed any enthu or called her over for dinner. How come he is acting like a kid now that Icha is pregnant? Not saying he should not be excited, but he should have been equally excited if not more, for Taps pregnancy also.

Jogi says he has forgiven Taps because he has rectified the mistake that Taps made - that is separating Icha and Veer. I know Taps has done many misdeeds in life, but this is not one of them. She only wanted to be with Veer, she never intended to separate Icha from Veer. In fact, she even made the incredible comment of sharing Veer with Icha (which was yuck!). She lied about her pregnancy and that turned into many things and Icha left B house on her own accord. Why blame Taps for that?

Jogi had a lot of sense in him when UT started, but now he acts spineless. He thinks whatever Icha does is ok, but Taps is always wrong. Did he ask Icha why she hid the truth about Veer's impotency from him and the others?

All these incidents shows Jogi's magnanimous nature. Remember Until now Jogi is not aware that Ichcha is pregnant...So wats wrong if Jogi called them for a Dinner!!! Its just a dinner at home not a whole grand Party!!!. Divya fearing Jogi's ire did not object to the dinner but hte lady grandly took to bed with sickness excuse. So whats wrong if Jogi takes keen interest in the preparations after all he cannot insult the guests.

Its very easy to forgive a person if the person asks for it, repents the mistake and double so if the person tries to rectify the mistake. All these things we haven't seen Tapasya doing. Firstly she ran away to Rathore...so no explanation. Secondly, She is getting married to him but still didn't feel its her duty to intimate this to her parents. Most importantly she told Divya to pass the message to her Dad that she has changed and from now on will not give any more worries to him but there was no sorry nor did she accept that she was wrong in doing all these. Jogi even than had forgiven her whole heartedly without anone's pressure. Jogi always had this fault in his character...however righteous he is, he always goes mushy towards Tapasya, not only does he forgive her for n no of mistakes but also doesn't mind begging Veer to forgive her...

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Posted: 14 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: SRKLuvr

Yes he is always inclined to blame his daughter for everything without asking her anything...when he himself knows who is responsible for this mess😡 But since you will not agree to my viewpoint lets leave it there.

I am going to leave it vbut this...

Wat explaination do you need to ask her. Its plain to every eye that she is enjoying Veer's company. ie some one else husband's company!!!! There is no reason for her to claim so much of Veer's time especially in the absence of Ichcha.

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BeautyBabe

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Posted: 14 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: SRKLuvr

And ll that was enough to break a marriage? What a weak foundation to their love and marriage then😆

just a few things given to someone from an entire collection is all in misunderstanding a father what a weak love and trust of a daughter to a father 😉

Edited by kikyo - 14 years ago

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ankit111

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Posted: 14 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: dreamz12

I am going to leave it vbut this...

Wat explaination do you need to ask her. Its plain to every eye that she is enjoying Veer's company. ie some one else husband's company!!!! There is no reason for her to claim so much of Veer's time especially in the absence of Ichcha.

and wd she hv told him truth, if he asked her???? he knew very well his daughter, how cunning she is, its only his fatherly love tht he continue forgiving her😡but people expect tht he sd even appraciate her crime😆

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dreamz12

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Posted: 14 years ago

#25

You don't 4get so called a rape. She always knew the truth but was not ready to accept it. After the first phone call she had assured herself there is no way that anyone would know this secret. Rathore thru his phone calls made her accept the reality and thus made crackings in her dream world. Just becoz Cvs showed that night in FB doesn't mean that she had completely forgotten about that incident. No one forgets that easily.

All she needs to do was convince her nani that she doesn't want to stay at Bhouse and put some drama and leave the place (Ta[ni are famous for their manipulations). She might have thru Divya told everything about Rathore to Jogi. Jogi wud have been angry but definitely wud not throw his daugther in that condition instead wud have fixed the marriage with Rathod happily. As Tapasya always lives in her obsession world she as usual can never make a right choice unless and until forced to do it.

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crisps21

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Posted: 14 years ago

#26

Does anyone remember the time when Tapasya was cunningly manipulating Gunwanti and Ichha to make them beg, insist and basically do everything possible to make her come and stay with the Bundelas? She was cleverly trying to portray (esp. to Jogi) that she doesn't want to meddle in Veecha's lives... but behind his back, she and Nani were plotting and planning how to enter Bundela household on a fake pregnancy!! Even when she refused Gunwanti's offers TWICE, Nani got a bit panicky that she is continually refusing and she wont' get entrance... and then she said Ichha's going to make sure she comes and stays...

So who's trying to say that was Jogi's fault?? He had not a single clue. He as ADAMANT in trying to keep her with him and Divya... and he though living in the Basti Tapasya had learnt her lessons and sudhrofyed... but seeing her with Veer (that was also a manipulation by the way, when she made sure Ichha didn't come to the restaurant - dont' remember the whole sequence but I think she blackmailed her that she'll tell Veer about his test results or something!)

Anyway, so when Jogi saw them together, knowing his daughter and her past mistakes, he KNEW what she was upto that's why he didn't meet her the next day, because he clearly told Ichha that he needs to get his emotions under control otherwise he'll upset his pregnant daughter!!!!!

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dolly

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Posted: 14 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: ankit111
why to accept, just continue cheating😆 and only expect from other tht after knowing ur cheat, everybody sd clap👏👏 tht is very easy😆

i agree!! why 2 speak truth wen ur lies r giving u wat u r obsessesed wid!!

and abt rape of taps!!that wasn't rape. she didn't even said u raped me but said u took advantage of me. and wat advantage?? wen the phone came that sum1 knows her secret she said 2 herself no1 can knew my sweet secret & then smiled. i wonder which raped gal wud smile after getting sum blackmailers call 4 knowing her "sweet secret of so-called rape"!!😲😲and then go on gambling wid him!! any innocent gal wid self respect if raped she not just complaint abt rape but also try 2 book culprit & if sum how sum gal feel bad abt it & can't do anything & sum1 blackmail her abt it she won't smile & says it like sum "sweet secret" wid smiling face!!!😲😲😲

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crisps21

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Posted: 14 years ago

#28

...to add to my previous post...

The time when Jogi found out about Tapasya's pregnancy (fake one), were not exactly happy times... he had forgiven his daughter and brought her back home after he thought she had learnt her lessons... and then when the pregnancy bombshell was thrown, he was more taken aback than happy, because his daughter was no longer married and pregnant... how can he show excitement, enthusiasm or anything for his daughter in such a situation???

ESPECIALLY when everyone - including Divya and Nani were actually CONCERNED that Tapasya has landed herself in such a situation. How could ANY of them be happy knowing that Tapasya was going to be an unmarried mom!!!!!

Still, he was shown very touched and happy and he did his level best to look after his daughter... insisted that she go to see the best Gynae he knew... but Tapu and Nani didn't want their secret to come out, so they chose their own Gynae to keep the lie floating...

Jogi would have done EXACTLY the same as he is doing with Ichha if Tapasya was happily married to Veer AND expecting their child together...

If they show Taps pregnant with Rathore NOW, you wait and see how excited Jogi would be... now that he's forgiven Tapasya and wants to see her, meet her, bring her home and all.

You guys just wait and see what he does for his real daughter when she gets pregnant in the 'right' circumstances!!!

Edited by crisps21 - 14 years ago

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ankit111

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Posted: 14 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: tiny15
i agree!! why 2 speak truth wen ur lies r giving u wat u r obsessesed wid!!👏

and abt rape of taps!!that wasn't rape. she didn't even said u raped me but said u took advantage of me. and wat advantage?? wen the phone came that sum1 knows her secret she said 2 herself no1 can knew my sweet secret & then smiled. i wonder which raped gal wud smile after getting sum blackmailers call 4 knowing her "sweet secret of so-called rape"!!😲😲and then go on gambling wid him!! any innocent gal wid self respect if raped she not just complaint abt rape but also try 2 book culprit & if sum how sum gal feel bad abt it & can't do anything & sum1 blackmail her abt it she won't smile & says it like sum "sweet secret" wid smiling face!!!😲😲😲

Arey Dolly people r making ho hangama, why Ichchha didnt inform police, without giving her credit tht ATLEAST she saved the life of a child, but for thm its very normal tht after so called RAPE Tapu didnt inform police and continue gambling and thn after being kicked out by Veer, happily marry with the same RAPIST😆😆 so different logic for Tapu and rest of world😆

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hn_anitha

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Posted: 14 years ago

#30

How many times did he call to ask how she was...visit her...did he ever merrily prepare halwa for her? His first thought always was Ichha! He came to meet Ichha...he left without even meeting Tapu! What sort of a father IS he?🤢

That time Jogi did not meet Tapasya for a reason!! He had seen Taps and Veer in the restaurant, where he saw that Ichcha was not present, and that Veer, as per Jogi's request, was taking care of Tapasya... He also figured after talking to Ichcha that It was Tapasya's kalakaari that Ichcha ended up not going to that dinner.. He was angry with Tapasya for AGAIN trying to break Ichcha and Veer's relation. He also told that IF he met Tapasya at that point, he would be able to control his anger towards her... and he decided to leave that time because he didnt want to scold Taps at that stage... He had always cared for Taps.. in every stage.. after every blunder she did.. He and every one has forgiven her WAAAYYY too much...

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